Dolphins sign Sony Michel. Solid move, that team is loaded. He easily could've been the number 2 here 

1 hour ago, greend said:

Who said "moaning here changes that"? Just as an fyi being positive here doesn't change anything either. This is a message board nothing we do here has any bearing on the team. 

16 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Help me out here buddy...

Wasn't there someone on this board in particular that used to complain a lot about Nick Foles and the way he would "float" deep passes?

Ironic, yeah?

I remember the old Foles troll Luvdaeagles used to gripe that Foles wouldn’t throw past 15 yards…in preseason. 

6 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Dolphins sign Sony Michel. Solid move, that team is loaded. He easily could've been the number 2 here 

He could have battled Sanders for carries.

6 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

We're going to be in nickel 70%+ time, right? So, I think you need to hash how many snaps go between 3DL+Reddick+2LBs -or- 4DL+2LBs.  3LBs off the ball I don't think will be very common.  

 

For sure. Nickel will take up the bulk of the snaps, as it always does nowadays.

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

For sure. Nickel will take up the bulk of the snaps, as it always does nowadays.

With 2 LBs (excluding Reddick as he's less LB and much more pass rusher), I'd expect White to get 99% of the WIL snaps and Edwards/Dean to split the Mack situationally.  

52 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

In my opinion, absolutely. Improving your interior Dline should always take precedent over improving your safeties.

 

If Hamilton is an All Pro and Davis is not then it was wrong.  I'm not all arguing the moves were wrong though.  I generally agree with them.  My main point was they aren't 'good' regardless of the results.  They will be 'good' if they get 'good' results. 

7 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

With 2 LBs (excluding Reddick as he's less LB and much more pass rusher), I'd expect White to get 99% of the WIL snaps and Edwards/Dean to split the Mack situationally.  

I think by the end of the year, Dean will see significantly more snaps than Edwards, and definitely in nickel. Agree on White. I wanna see more 5-2 personally.

Sweat Davis Cox Graham Reddick

               White       Dean

6 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

If Hamilton is an All Pro and Davis is not then it was wrong.  I'm not all arguing the moves were wrong though.  I generally agree with them.  My main point was they aren't 'good' regardless of the results.  They will be 'good' if they get 'good' results. 

I try not to view it in hindsight. If you do, then 80% of our draft moves are wrong because we took X, but could have had Y. I evaluate if it's a good move in the moment. For example, Reagor was an awful move in the moment with Jefferson there. On the flip side I viewed Sanders as a good move, even though now in hindsight I'd rather have David Montgomery (I was a big fan of his at Iowa State but couldn't see him at 53 that year).

Not sure how reliable this person is but

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not sure how reliable this person is but

I had been expecting the opener in Washington.

20 hours ago, Next_Up said:

Al Harris, toast part deux. Mills needs to get in line on this one

Al Harris was an invaluable member of those early 2000 teams as a nickel and outside corner when either Troy or Bobby would get hurt or JJ would slide either into the nickel 

Was he an all pro? No but he was a pretty good 3rd CB who was better than some teams 2nd CBs.

This idea that he got beat a few times so he's   on the izel Jenkins level is short sighted to say the least.

 Al Harris lasted 14 years in the league made 2 pro bowls, albeit none with the eagles but how many did izel or Mills make with the eagles or otherwise 

Did izel last 14 seasons in the League? Nope only 6, 5 with the eagles.

Enough people around the league must of thought Harris was at least good enough or he would t have lasted so long.

First Ben Smith is better than Eric Allen now Al Harris and izel Jenkins are on the same level?

What next some one going to make the argument that Carey Sconce  Williams was better than Bobby Taylor?

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

I had been expecting the opener in Washington.

It's probably a fake account looking more closely. Barely any followers, account created only yesterday, etc

36 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Andy's tenure was clearly a trajectory of improvement where they were limited in the playoffs by a weak passing game when they got to the most important games.  Strong defense, good ball control and doing enough to win offensively, but outside of 2004, the passing game was mostly meh.

 

There was no trajectory for the 2017 team.  It was an anomaly.  Those happen, but they aren't a blueprint for building long term.  They literally hit the lottery with a bunch of minor moves and players having career years all aligning perfectly, not too different from the 1993 Phillies, only without the Joe Carter home run to ruin everything at the end.  Wentz had a career year.  Foles had a 2 game stretch unmatched in Eagles' playoff history.  So, they got stellar play at the most important position in football and at the most critical times... sprinkled in with just a little luck (61 yard FG, Julio Jones letting the ball slip through his hands at the end of the divisional round... the doink off the Falcons' DB's shin before halftime to set up a FG, etc.). No trajectory at all.   Lightning in a bottle.

Exactly.   What was the Bucs trajectory before TB12 arrived?

Most titles are a result of opportunity and luck.  Just be in a position to capitalize. 

It's not a 50 year process.

4 hours ago, Infam said:

He didn‘t hit on all picks. Terrible!

Only an asset if you can keep them 

otherwise its feeding our competition and howies ego

9 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Al Harris was an invaluable member of those early 2000 teams as a nickel and outside corner when either Troy or Bobby would get hurt or JJ would slide either into the nickel 

Was he an all pro? No but he was a pretty good 3rd CB who was better than some teams 2nd CBs.

This idea that he got beat a few times so he's   on the izel Jenkins level is short sighted to say the least.

 Al Harris lasted 14 years in the league made 2 pro bowls, albeit none with the eagles but how many did izel or Mills make with the eagles or otherwise 

Did izel last 14 seasons in the League? Nope only 6, 5 with the eagles.

Enough people around the league must of thought Harris was at least good enough or he would t have lasted so long.

First Ben Smith is better than Eric Allen now Al Harris and izel Jenkins are on the same level?

What next some one going to make the argument that Carey Sconce  Williams was better than Bobby Taylor?

Similar to the thinking that Big V was a failed draft pick because he didn't resign with the team.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Similar to the thinking that Big V was a failed draft pick because he didn't resign with the team.

Yes.  The correct course of action would have been to extend him and put Peters out to pasture, instead of having him hang on to long and then using a failed first round pick on his replacement.

24 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I think by the end of the year, Dean will see significantly more snaps than Edwards, and definitely in nickel. Agree on White. I wanna see more 5-2 personally.

Sweat Davis Cox Graham Reddick

               White       Dean

Hell yeah. I think there are quite a few combinations possible now if we stay healthy.

24 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I try not to view it in hindsight. If you do, then 80% of our draft moves are wrong because we took X, but could have had Y. I evaluate if it's a good move in the moment. For example, Reagor was an awful move in the moment with Jefferson there. On the flip side I viewed Sanders as a good move, even though now in hindsight I'd rather have David Montgomery (I was a big fan of his at Iowa State but couldn't see him at 53 that year).

I liked Reagor a lot, he has all the tools to be really good. But it’s hard to judge the mental aspect that made him a bust.

1 minute ago, Infam said:

Hell yeah. I think there are quite a few combinations possible now if we stay healthy.

I liked Reagor a lot, he has all the tools to be really good. But it’s hard to judge the mental aspect that made him a bust.

Jefferson was the obvious pick then, just as it is now.

11 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Only an asset if you can keep them 

otherwise its feeding our competition and howies ego

Didn’t we keep pretty much everybody?

Feels like the other teams are losing guys while we locked up everyone early. We might err on the side of keeping too many.

Edit: Oh I missed out on the context, you were talking about the FO, I was talking about players. My bad.

This makes the Texans have an excellent GM.

 

 

 

Or so I'm told. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Just because the organization is used as a stepping stone for executives, doesn't make it a good thing.  Now, if we only were able to treat coaches like front office execs.  

Most scouting jobs are stepping stones until they get to GM. Give me the folks talented enough to advance than the mediocre ones who'll stick around for 10 years.

44 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I think by the end of the year, Dean will see significantly more snaps than Edwards, and definitely in nickel. Agree on White. I wanna see more 5-2 personally.

Sweat Davis Cox Graham Reddick

               White       Dean

 

I tend to think it would be Sweat Cox Davis Graham Reddick, but I guess I could see it either way.

38 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Is it Howie's job to cultivate young front office talent?  

 

 

Didn't think so.  

Howie needs football people to identify talents.  To his credit, he brings in good personnel people to the team.  They come with knowledge and experience to the job.  So, not much cultivation while here, but just do their jobs and well, then move on to higher position with other team. 

24 minutes ago, twistr said:

I tend to think it would be Sweat Cox Davis Graham Reddick, but I guess I could see it either way.

I could see that as a RZ pressure package or against 12 personnel - but in base against 11 personnel are you going to put a LB or S over the slot (e.g., Ceedee Lamb)?

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Like that 30 something lady who just moved on.  Was she a "football person”?  

She is as much as Howie is.