20 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

As a kid, I perpetually had ink or lead on the outside of my left hand from dragging it across whatever I had just written. 

As my grandfather always said... only left-handed people are in their right mind.   

17 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Sixers will make things messier when the give Harden a max contract , last night is not a shocking performance by Harden , it’s not the first time he was awol when things mattered , and they traded all their depth to get him . Sixers doing sixers things 

Both Drummond and Seth's contracts are expired. Both are now FA.  And Seth was a starter, not depth.  Sixers were better with a Harden/Maxey back court than a Seth/Maxey back court.  Embiid's injuries did them in.  If he's healthy they are likely still playing.  

Harden getting a max now will stink, but if he is our PG with Maxey at 2 that is a good combo.   Real issue with Sixers is they need a better 4 in the starting 5 along with a shooters off the bench.  Tobi is a good 3, need a 4 that can shoot and rebound.  

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Both Drummond and Seth's contracts are expired. Both are now FA.  And Seth was a starter, not depth.  Sixers were better with a Harden/Maxey back court than a Seth/Maxey back court.  Embiid's injuries did them in.  If he's healthy they are likely still playing.  

Harden getting a max now will stink, but if he is our PG with Maxey at 2 that is a good combo.   Real issue with Sixers is they need a better 4 in the starting 5 along with a shooters off the bench.  Tobi is a good 3, need a 4 that can shoot and rebound.  

I would move on from Harden in a heartbeat. No team is going to win with him being a focal point on offense. 

7 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Have you watched clips of Stoutland coaching?  He gets down to foot and hand placement with minute detail. Watching Castillo’s punch drill was a thing of beauty.  There are nuances about the game. 

BTW, one of the reasons I like the young investments we have at DB is I like Dennard Wilson’s drills. I wasn’t a huge fan of the "choose your own cushion” last year but, frankly, the LBs screwed up the zone play as much as any of the DBs. 

Yup,and I'd guess all NFL OC are aware of hand placement and technique and OL sets and assignments, I don't think stoutland is so good be side he knows some special OL technique that other dont, so what set him apart?

In my opinion as previously stated, it's his ability to teach, he's an expert communicator and teacher.

It's a skill, any ol dummy can learn what  o line technique is  and tell another human about it but connecting  with another human and helping someone else learn how to do that consistently a high level is a skill, one that stoutland excels at.

I don't know much about dennard Wilson's drill but sounds like he's a good teacher.

7 hours ago, Damanick10 said:

How is our schedule so easy again lol even if this team isn't very good we might still get over 9 wins. Being in the NFC East helps too.

The out-of-division games are done on a rotation.  Last season it was the AFC West (which wasn't easy, and the Eagles went 1-3) and the NFC South (Eagles went 3-1 lost to TB).  The season before it was the NFC West and AFC North -- brutally difficult, which was why the NFC East was historically weak that season.

The other 3 games this season are Cardinals, Steelers, and Saints.  A 2nd place schedule against other 2nd place teams from 2021.  

Just now, UndyTaker said:

I would move on from Harden in a heartbeat. No team is going to win with him being a focal point on offense. 

I'm happy with him running the point.  Embiid and Maxey are the Sixers offensive focal points, the rest of the starting 5 need to compliment them.  Harden as PG does that well.  I'd be very happy with Harden at 15/9/6 a game.  At a max contract not as happy.

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup,and I'd guess all NFL OC are aware of hand placement and technique and OL sets and assignments, I don't think stoutland is so good be side he knows some special OL technique that other dont, so what set him apart?

In my opinion as previously stated, it's his ability to teach, he's an expert communicator and teacher.

It's a skill, any ol dummy can learn what  o line technique is  and tell another human about it but connecting  with another human and helping someone else learn how to do that consistently a high level is a skill, one that stoutland excels at.

I don't know much about dennard Wilson's drill but sounds like he's a good teacher.

Yeah... I disagree with this.    I agree that Stoutland is a great teacher of the position, but I'd venture a guess that he also knows more than the average NFL OL coach.

35 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Both Drummond and Seth's contracts are expired. Both are now FA.  And Seth was a starter, not depth.  Sixers were better with a Harden/Maxey back court than a Seth/Maxey back court.  Embiid's injuries did them in.  If he's healthy they are likely still playing.  

Harden getting a max now will stink, but if he is our PG with Maxey at 2 that is a good combo.   Real issue with Sixers is they need a better 4 in the starting 5 along with a shooters off the bench.  Tobi is a good 3, need a 4 that can shoot and rebound.  

Sixers have no bench  and it was obvious 

Herro had 88 points, while the Sixers' bench combined for 117.

one player vs the sixers bench .

Harden was never the answer 

per Forbes article 

The Sixers won't have many pathways to improve that depth this offseason barring a major shakeup. Even if they re-sign Harden for less than the max and waive Green in the wake of his knee injury, they'll be limited to the $10.4 million non-taxpayer mid-level exception and the $4.1 million bi-annual exception, provided they can stay under the $155.7 million luxury-tax apron. If they can't, they'll have nothing more than the $6.4 million taxpayer mid-level exception and veteran minimum contracts to round out their roster.

7 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I'm happy with him running the point.  Embiid and Maxey are the Sixers offensive focal points, the rest of the starting 5 need to compliment them.  Harden as PG does that well.  I'd be very happy with Harden at 15/9/6 a game.  At a max contract not as happy.

You would be happy during regular season, but come playoffs Harden is a liability on offense and defense, especially at this point in his career. His entire game is dribbling for too long, step back 3s, and getting fouls. He seems to be slower at this point in his career and he isnt going to get as many calls in the playoffs and at 32% from 3 he is more of a liability, especially for someone playing in the back court. He is closer to Westbrook at this point, and no team will win a championship with either of them. 76ers would be much better off having Bradley Beal than Harden.

12 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Sixers have no bench  and it was obvious 

Herro had 88 points, while the Sixers' bench combined for 117.

one player vs the sixers bench .

Harden was never the answer 

per Forbes article 

The Sixers won't have many pathways to improve that depth this offseason barring a major shakeup. Even if they re-sign Harden for less than the max and waive Green in the wake of his knee injury, they'll be limited to the $10.4 million non-taxpayer mid-level exception and the $4.1 million bi-annual exception, provided they can stay under the $155.7 million luxury-tax apron. If they can't, they'll have nothing more than the $6.4 million taxpayer mid-level exception and veteran minimum contracts to round out their roster.

Depth is an issue but the Harden trade didn't ruin the Sixers bench.  The bench was bad to begin with.  Drummond would have helped a little, but he can't shoot and neither can the sixers bench with or without tue Harden trade.

Harden trade made the Sixers starting 5 much better.  

13 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

You would be happy during regular season, but come playoffs Harden is a liability on offense and defense, especially at this point in his career. His entire game is dribbling for too long, step back 3s, and getting fouls. He seems to be slower at this point in his career and he isnt going to get as many calls in the playoffs and at 32% from 3 he is more of a liability, especially for someone playing in the back court. He is closer to Westbrook at this point, and no team will win a championship with either of them. 76ers would be much better off having Bradley Beal than Harden.

Lots of guys are better options.  But Beal has never been a true option. Playoff Beal is an unknown, but we know for sure his D would be as bad or worse than Harden.  Harden as a PG and 4th scoring option is good.  At a max contract not so good.  

Gonna be tough sledding for the Sixers.  And if Embiid keeps being more concerned with MVPs and throwing teammates under the bus after 2nd round exits, gonna be sledding up a steep hill.  

20 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And by ever again, you likely mean about a week, amirite?

 

I'm the same way.  BTW, Howie has always been a wheeler dealer, it's the draft busts, bad contracts and horrible free agent signings that have been his downfall.  When it comes to trading, he rarely loses.

And part of it was that NC State's coach told him he wasn't going to play in the NFL, so he should just give up on that and move on to baseball full-time.

Honestly? 

I never really criticize him. 

All GM's have misses, but I like how he is always quick to correct his mistakes. 

Plenty of top GM's have drafted busts over the years..... Hell, look at Bill Belichick 

30 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah... I disagree with this.    I agree that Stoutland is a great teacher of the position, but I'd venture a guess that he also knows more than the average NFL OL coach.

I guess I mean if one has made it to the NFL as an OL coach I can't imagine there is much technique wise one doesnt know.

Like I said I don't think stoutland has some secret knowledge about o line play that other coaches dont have I just think he's better at communicating, implementing, and teaching than some guys 

Take for instance math, I really suck at math and I e had some really bad math teachers and some really good math teachers and some ok math teachers throughout my life.

What made some better than others?, it's not like one math teacher knew a special formula to solve for A that the others didn't,the difference was how they taught,how they connected how they communicated and helped others learn and implement those ideas.

I think the same goes for O line coaching and basically any position coach or any teaching opportunity.

Whatever Stoutland is doing that is  so effective im glad, will be a sad day when he retires and I can't imagine the eagles would ever willingly let him go somewhere else 

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Lots of guys are better options.  But Beal has never been a true option. Playoff Beal is an unknown, but we know for sure his D would be as bad or worse than Harden.  Harden as a PG and 4th scoring option is good.  At a max contract not so good.  

Gonna be tough sledding for the Sixers.  And if Embiid keeps being more concerned with MVPs and throwing teammates under the bus after 2nd round exits, gonna be sledding up a steep hill.  

Maybe one could have a bench if ones 4th option wasn't on a max contract?

1 minute ago, iladelphxx said:

Honestly? 

I never really criticize him. 

All GM's have misses, but I like how he is always quick to correct his mistakes. 

Plenty of top GM's have drafted busts over the years..... Hell, look at Bill Belichick 

Like the mistake of drafting Agholor was quickly corrected with JJAW, who was quickly corrected with Reagor... before correcting with Smith, and finally correcting with Brown?

Tons and tons of resources at WR... 

 

Yes, top GMs make mistakes.  Top GMs also miss on free agents, draft picks and the like.  My biggest issue with Howie is how big he missed post-Super Bowl and how everyone else associated with the failures is gone, but he remains.  That's my biggest issue with Howie, lack of accountability.  Seems like he's got a lifetime contract.

 

Just now, Utebird said:

Maybe one could have a bench if ones 4th option wasn't on a max contract?

Sixers are past that.  Cap situation is such that whether they max Harden out or not they don't have $$ to improve the bench.  Only way to clear up any $$$ is to trade Tobi or Embiid.

11 hours ago, downundermike said:

So what do you guys think will be the new Hurtscuses this year ??  Let me begin.

1.  This is the first time he has played in the same system two years in a row.

They're asking him to throw more and he's working on his progressions. Sometimes it takes a season or two.

Just now, Swoop said:

They're asking him to throw more and he's working on his progressions. Sometimes it takes a season or two.

The additional open receiver is confusing him.

44 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I guess I mean if one has made it to the NFL as an OL coach I can't imagine there is much technique wise one doesnt know.

Like I said I don't think stoutland has some secret knowledge about o line play that other coaches dont have I just think he's better at communicating, implementing, and teaching than some guys 

Take for instance math, I really suck at math and I e had some really bad math teachers and some really good math teachers and some ok math teachers throughout my life.

What made some better than others?, it's not like one math teacher knew a special formula to solve for A that the others didn't,the difference was how they taught,how they connected how they communicated and helped others learn and implement those ideas.

I think the same goes for O line coaching and basically any position coach or any teaching opportunity.

Whatever Stoutland is doing that is  so effective im glad, will be a sad day when he retires and I can't imagine the eagles would ever willingly let him go somewhere else 

I don't think its 'secret' knowledge, I think its about an innate ability to see it happening, or not happening live or on film.  He's a great communicator, but he also has to know exactly what to communicate and to whom, how and when.  

 

The math analogy is a false equivalence.  Math has very limited options on how to do it.  OL has very different techniques based on how you want the OL to play.  Its not as simple as 'solve for x'.  There are better teachers and worse teachers.  And as a teacher and having trained many teachers, I can also tell you that some teachers have a great deal more knowledge than others and the ones that have more knowledge of the subject have a deeper well to draw from to help their students understand things and understand them at a higher level.  Some teachers, frankly, only understand their particular subject at the surface level.  Those teachers will never be able to help their students understand things at a level deeper than that.   Bringing it back to OL coaching... knowing the techniques is one thing... knowing why those techniques are what they are and the nuances of that technique is another thing altogether.

8 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Lots of guys are better options.  But Beal has never been a true option. Playoff Beal is an unknown, but we know for sure his D would be as bad or worse than Harden.  Harden as a PG and 4th scoring option is good.  At a max contract not so good.  

Gonna be tough sledding for the Sixers.  And if Embiid keeps being more concerned with MVPs and throwing teammates under the bus after 2nd round exits, gonna be sledding up a steep hill.  

But playoff Harden is not an unknown and we know his style of play does not work. Again its who he is as a player. If Harden is your starting PG he will never be your 4th scoring option because of how long the ball is in his hands. He isnt suddenly going to start playing like Mario Chalmers from the 2012 Miami Heat squad and passing it as soon as he crosses half court. Besides I dont think you want your 4th scoring option to be someone who is 32% from 3 and 47% from 2. The only thing Harden is good at now is facilitating, but come playoff time defenses clamp down on him and he isnt as successful.

21 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes, top GMs make mistakes.  Top GMs also miss on free agents, draft picks and the like.  My biggest issue with Howie is how big he missed post-Super Bowl and how everyone else associated with the failures is gone, but he remains.  That's my biggest issue with Howie, lack of accountability.  Seems like he's got a lifetime contract.

Let's say Howie was fired after 2020. If the new GM orchestrated the 2021 and 2022 offseasons, we'd be over the moon with him.

Howie's adaptability was as integral as his rapport with Lurie in surviving 2020, and he's proved that ever since. Keeping him has been a great decision so far.

Just now, Saltpeter said:

Let's say Howie was fired after 2020. If the new GM orchestrated the 2021 and 2022 offseasons, we'd be over the moon with him.

Howie's adaptability was as integral as his rapport with Lurie in surviving 2020. It's been a great decision so far.

Sure.  If the HC stayed as well, how would we feel about him?  

 

It's been a "great" decision already?  Nah.  The jury remains out if it's a 'great' decision.     Hard to go anywhere but up after bottoming out at 4 wins.  Possible?  Absolutely.  We'll see in 3 years if it was a 'great' decision.  That's when we'll have the data to make that determination, and we'll see if Howie can sustain it.  The issue isn't getting off the bottom of the pile in the NFL... it's about getting up and staying in the top tier.  This team isn't even in the top tier yet.  

Keep em coming, pretty good list so far.  You guys are going to have to really think to come up with ideas that the S******* may use if he does not play well.

 

22 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

The additional open receiver is confusing him.

Definitely my favorite so far

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

As my grandfather always said... only left-handed people are in their right mind.   

They’re good for boxing and pitching, that’s about it.  One of Steve Young’s coaches at BYU wanted him to be a DB because he was a lefty, the coach didn’t want to teach everything backwards to accommodate Young. 

10 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Let's say Howie was fired after 2020. If the new GM orchestrated the 2021 and 2022 offseasons, we'd be over the moon with him.

Howie's adaptability was as integral as his rapport with Lurie in surviving 2020, and he's proved that ever since. Keeping him has been a great decision so far.

That will only prove true if his decisions lead to consistent deep playoff runs. The fact remains, outside of one anomaly season, which was the best thing ever, Howie led teams do not have a history of postseason success. One very lucky win the year after, but nothing since, and nothing prior to the Super Bowl.

Earning 7th seeds with a quick blowout Wild Card exit won't cut it anymore.