1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

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unsure what to do next ? omg the horror. 

I’m with her. I’m definitely not racist and would love to save 15% - 20% on every dinner bill.

 

 

9 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

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She should follow @BFit on Twitter or instagram or whatever ghey site he posts his meat on. 

...and now we have a SCOTUS member (soon) who can't define the term "woman".  The meaning of words can't just be whatever one wants them to be at any point in time.

I was told it was just a few nuts on a couple of radical campuses, good times.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

...and now we have a SCOTUS member (soon) who can't define the term "woman".  The meaning of words can't just be whatever one wants them to be at any point in time.

I was told it was just a few nuts on a couple of radical campuses, good times.

can’t or won’t?

11 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

She should follow @BFit on Twitter or instagram or whatever ghey site he posts his meat on. 

wait, are you talking about my instagram account, or the ghey site i post my meat on?

11 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

She should follow @BFit on Twitter or instagram or whatever ghey site he posts his meat on. 

I believe you're referring to his grinder profile.

1 hour ago, BFit said:

wait, are you talking about my instagram account, or the ghey site i post my meat on?

2 hours ago, BFit said:

wait, are you talking about my instagram account, or the ghey site i post my meat on?

What’s the difference?

18 hours ago, The_Omega said:

I’m with her. I’m definitely not racist and would love to save 15% - 20% on every dinner bill.

 

 

I also guarantee you that American servers/bartenders are making WAY more money than anywhere else in the world. 

Even if you paid them $15 an hour, it would all be on the books and taxed.... $120 before taxes. 

Most servers/bartenders are leaving with like $150-500 a shift, cash .

I don't know a single person in the service industry who wants to get paid hourly 

How it started

8 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

it was just a few nuts on a couple of radical campuses

How it’s going 

8 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

...and now we have a SCOTUS member (soon) who can't define the term "woman". 

 

28 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Most servers/bartenders are leaving with like $150-500 a shift, cash .

That is simply not true for the vast majority of servers, who are generally waiting tables at places like Applebee's, Outback, sports bars, and diners, not high-end restaurants. For most servers, coming away with anywhere close to $100 is a good night, and it's usually working 8-12 hours, often with no break. Bartenders make more, but again, most are working in fast-casual resataurants and dive bars, so maybe 200 on a good night.

5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

That is simply not true for the vast majority of servers, who are generally waiting tables at places like Applebee's, Outback, sports bars, and diners, not high-end restaurants. For most servers, coming away with anywhere close to $100 is a good night, and it's usually working 8-12 hours, often with no break. Bartenders make more, but again, most are working in fast-casual resataurants and dive bars, so maybe 200 on a good night.

How is that not true?  If you serve 10-15 tables at Applebees you can easily make $150 in tips.* Most servers will serve more than 10-15 tables in a shift.

 

 

*This is assuming tables have more than 1 person

17 minutes ago, paco said:

How is that not true?  If you serve 10-15 tables at Applebees you can easily make $150 in tips.* Most servers will serve more than 10-15 tables in a shift.

 

 

*This is assuming tables have more than 1 person

 

It's been over 10 years since I worked in the industry, but I never worked anywhere high-end. Most shifts were about 4 or 5 hours on average, tables were usually 2-4 people in a 4-table section, and a typical 20% tip was between $5-$7, but most people don't tip 20% anyway (especially at the low-end places). Personal experience, but most servers I've known were not anywhere close to raking it in. Plenty of nights where you left with $40 or less and a bad taste in your mouth from rude patrons.

5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It's been over 10 years since I worked in the industry, but I never worked anywhere high-end. Most shifts were about 4 or 5 hours on average, tables were usually 2-4 people in a 4-table section, and a typical 20% tip was between $5-$7, but most people don't tip 20% anyway (especially at the low-end places). Personal experience, but most servers I've known were not anywhere close to raking it in. Plenty of nights where you left with $40 or less and a bad taste in your mouth from rude patrons.

I wasn't talking about high end. 

I worked in Northeast Philly sports bars and bartenders would make $250-500+ a night 

Waitresses would make $100-200 a shift. 

This was also 10-15 years ago. 

Just now, iladelphxx said:

I wasn't talking about high end. 

I worked in Northeast Philly sports bars and bartenders would make $250-500+ a night 

Waitresses would make $100-200 a shift. 

This was also 10-15 years ago. 

 

In a big city, yeah, you can do that a little more reliably.

14 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It's been over 10 years since I worked in the industry, but I never worked anywhere high-end. Most shifts were about 4 or 5 hours on average, tables were usually 2-4 people in a 4-table section, and a typical 20% tip was between $5-$7, but most people don't tip 20% anyway (especially at the low-end places). Personal experience, but most servers I've known were not anywhere close to raking it in. Plenty of nights where you left with $40 or less and a bad taste in your mouth from rude patrons.

Using the high end of your example of $7 and assuming 20%, you are saying 2-4 people will only spend $35?

7 minutes ago, paco said:

Assuming the high end of your example of $7 and assuming 20%, you are saying 2-4 people will only spend $35?

 

10-15 years ago, yeah, pretty much in the range of $25-$40, maybe a little more on holidays or busy nights.

Honestly, I don't understand how so many people opt for that as a career choice. In my experience, they're always complaining about insufficient tips, and I just don't think they should expect anything else by now. It is what it is: a sh***y job. As a summer job, a second job, or a means to get through college, yeah, it's fine. But like this one girl I know who usually works as a bartender or server is a single mom raising a teenage daughter, and she's always changing jobs and posting on Facebook about her money troubles. Like, I feel bad, but at the same time, it's just not a job that you can reliably support yourself and a kid with. Aside from that, the workplace culture is usually terrible (especially for women) to go on top of the mistreatment by slimy customers. I honestly don't know how people do it for any extended period of time with nothing else in the works.

It was inevitable that code pink would ignore the utterly asinine claim, by one of their leading light thinkers, that tipping is racist, then jump in to argue an irrelevant, tangential point about how much people actually do tip.  

17 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

10-15 years ago, yeah, pretty much in the range of $25-$40, maybe a little more on holidays or busy nights.

Honestly, I don't understand how so many people opt for that as a career choice. In my experience, they're always complaining about insufficient tips, and I just don't think they should expect anything else by now. It is what it is: a sh***y job. As a summer job, a second job, or a means to get through college, yeah, it's fine. But like this one girl I know who usually works as a bartender or server is a single mom raising a teenage daughter, and she's always changing jobs and posting on Facebook about her money troubles. Like, I feel bad, but at the same time, it's just not a job that you can reliably support yourself and a kid with. Aside from that, the workplace culture is usually terrible (especially for women) to go on top of the mistreatment by slimy customers. I honestly don't know how people do it for any extended period of time with nothing else in the works.

Prices have gone up quite a bit since then 🙂

 

There aren't many occupations that you can get into with no educational background and make over 3000 a month cash plus wages.  

22 minutes ago, paco said:

Using the high end of your example of $7 and assuming 20%, you are saying 2-4 people will only spend $35?

Must've worked at a Diner.

1 minute ago, paco said:

over 3000 a month cash plus wages.  

 

Maybe times haver really changed, but I just don't see that being a reality for most. Either way, I don't expect anything different, I just think people are largely taking the best case scenario as representative here.

4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Maybe times haver really changed, but I just don't see that being a reality for most. Either way, I don't expect anything different, I just think people are largely taking the best case scenario as representative here.

$150 per day x 5 days x 4 weeks

 

At 20%, you only need to serve $750 in food and drinks per day to hit $150.  At establishments, like Applebee's, that serve alcohol, that's very easy to achieve.

 

(I was taking this as a worst case scenario with the $150-$500 range that was given and only 4 weeks (28 days) vs 4.5 weeks to give it extra padding)

37 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It's been over 10 years since I worked in the industry, but I never worked anywhere high-end. Most shifts were about 4 or 5 hours on average, tables were usually 2-4 people in a 4-table section, and a typical 20% tip was between $5-$7, but most people don't tip 20% anyway (especially at the low-end places). Personal experience, but most servers I've known were not anywhere close to raking it in. Plenty of nights where you left with $40 or less and a bad taste in your mouth from rude patrons.

I gotta learn to stop reading so fast. At first, I thought you said you got a bad taste in your mouth from nude patrons.