March 27, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm fine with my kids getting support anywhere they can find it, and I'm not so arrogant as to believe my teen son would be comfortable talking with mom and dad about certain topics. Liar. No youre not. Youre "fine" with it because you dont think it could happen to your kid. If it did, this would all be nonsense word salad. But right now its a hypothetical so you can maintain the lie. Teachers arent parents and never will be. Stop trying to be. Teachers have ZERO rights to discuss anything of that nature with students, and to even think about hiding it from the child's parents is horrifying and appalling.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: More insults because you know Im right. Your little kid comes home from school with a story about how Mr. Hero Teacher talked to them about sexual identity and this whole LARP goes away real quick. No you're not right, you're a complete garage human being and you always will be. I don't know what happened to you to make you the way you are, but it's really sad, and I hope it stops happening to young kids growing up in that incestuous sheet hole of a state you grew up in.
March 27, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: More insults because you know Im right. Your little kid comes home from school with a story about how Mr. Hero Teacher talked to them about sexual identity and this whole LARP goes away real quick. You're the weird one who's interpreting "teenager going through puberty is finding they're attracted to a same sex classmate, and seeks out a teacher/counselor who's known to be an ally" with "little kid gets groomed into being gay by **** teacher". That is literally the same nonsense the right tried to use in the 80s and earlier to suppress homosexuals from being accepted as just normal people who prefer the company of the same sex. And it's complete and utter trash.
March 27, 20232 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: No you're not right, you're a complete garage human being and you always will be. I don't know what happened to you to make you the way you are, but it's really sad, and I hope it stops happening to young kids growing up in that incestuous sheet hole of a state you grew up in. Triggered because I don't want teachers talking to students about things other than what we pay them for. All so you can pretend to be a hero on a message board. Bullying of any kind is bad. It should 100% of the time be up to the parents on how to decide to care for their children. No amount of TDS or liberal indoctrination will change that.
March 27, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Liar. No youre not. Youre "fine" with it because you dont think it could happen to your kid. If it did, this would all be nonsense word salad. But right now its a hypothetical so you can maintain the lie. Teachers arent parents and never will be. Stop trying to be. Teachers have ZERO rights to discuss anything of that nature with students, and to even think about hiding it from the child's parents is horrifying and appalling. You have no idea about me and my kids. And no, I have no problem with it. I would not be surprised if my oldest was gay honestly. What is horrifying is your willingness to screw up kids by telling them they're not going to be accepted and are broken in some way because they may be attracted to the same gender or be confused about their own sexuality.
March 27, 20232 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Triggered because I don't want teachers talking to students about things other than what we pay them for. All so you can pretend to be a hero on a message board. Bullying of any kind is bad. It should 100% of the time be up to the parents on how to decide to care for their children. No amount of TDS or liberal indoctrination will change that. Yeah, that's right, now bullying is bad and then you bring up TDS out of nowhere to deflect again because you're finally figuring out how stupid you look now. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, you loser. We all know who you really are. Just an absolutely awful human being through and through.
March 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: What is horrifying is your willingness to screw up kids by telling them they're not going to be accepted and are broken in some way because they may be attracted to the same gender or be confused about their own sexuality. His kids wouldn't stand a chance with him as a father. It's just F'ing sad that in 2023 there are still people like him without any self-awareness whatsoever.
March 27, 20232 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: You're the weird one who's interpreting "teenager going through puberty is finding they're attracted to a same sex classmate, and seeks out a teacher/counselor who's known to be an ally" with "little kid gets groomed into being gay by **** teacher". That is literally the same nonsense the right tried to use in the 80s and earlier to suppress homosexuals from being accepted as just normal people who prefer the company of the same sex. And it's complete and utter trash. No Im poking holes in your nonsense hypothetical and getting to the heart of what you're actually saying. Youre using euphemisms and talking around my questions because you know where theyre going. How does a student know you're an "ally" if you never brought up sexual orientation in the classroom??? Never did I think about discussing anything like this with any of my teachers. I went through puberty too. But I never even thought to think of who my "allies" would be because my teachers were there to talk to me about math and science, not be my little special buddy.
March 27, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: You have no idea about me and my kids. And no, I have no problem with it. I would not be surprised if my oldest was gay honestly. What is horrifying is your willingness to screw up kids by telling them they're not going to be accepted and are broken in some way because they may be attracted to the same gender or be confused about their own sexuality. Lol youre so close to Munsoning yourself. Keep it up JohnSnow, youll be signing off in shame in no time And yeah, now Im the one screwing up kids because I dont sexualize them and force them to think about things they dont yet understand. F'ing delusional LARPing liberals.
March 27, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: His kids wouldn't stand a chance with him as a father. It's just F'ing sad that in 2023 there are still people like him without any self-awareness whatsoever. All this fury because youve been called out as a f'ing creep and cant explain yourself to a normal rational adult.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: No Im poking holes in your nonsense hypothetical and getting to the heart of what you're actually saying. Youre using euphemisms and talking around my questions because you know where theyre going. How does a student know you're an "ally" if you never brought up sexual orientation in the classroom??? Never did I think about discussing anything like this with any of my teachers. I went through puberty too. But I never even thought to think of who my "allies" would be because my teachers were there to talk to me about math and science, not be my little special buddy. How stupid do you think kids are? The support systems in place in schools today are very different from what I experienced in the 80s and 90s. There are more counselors, and the counselors are more involved. In the 80s and 90s there was a much bigger stigma attached to being gay. And I for one am glad that there is more in place to both accept homosexuality and to help support those kids who are struggling with identity issues - usually because they're getting a message at home that "gays are bad, mmk". I'm not down with drag queen story hour. I don't necessarily see it as grooming, but I don't really see the purpose either. But it's you and others like you that are perpetuating this ridiculous myth that openly gay/trans people are by definition going to try and "groom" kids to be gay. That's not how it works, and it never has been, but it's long been an argument that homophobics make. You can't make a mainstream argument against homosexuality now, so you become this: turning kids into pawns in a sick political / religious game.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Two. Ok. I thought you were like Kz, giving parental advice without having any idea what you're talking about. You're wrong here regardless. Kids seek guidance where they can find it and a lot of parents suck. Exhibit A:
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Turning kids into pawns in a sick political / religious game. Yeah that's what you're doing. Thats why you get so triggered when I ask you simple questions What about a straight kid? Would you be willing to counsel a little girl too? Keep information away from her parents if she has questions or concerns about sex? Lets run this issue right into the ground and see where it goes
March 27, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: All this fury because youve been called out as a f'ing creep and cant explain yourself to a normal rational adult. Ya, I'm the creep, not the guy saying a teen confiding in a teacher that they're a victim of bullying for being gay is more about sex than seeking help. What a disgusting psychopath.
March 27, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Ok. I thought you were like Kz, giving parental advice without having any idea what you're talking about. You're wrong here regardless. Kids seek guidance where they can find it and a lot of parents suck. Exhibit A: But not you, right? Only the other parents. If it happened to your kid and their teacher (s), youd have a problem with it wouldn't you? Because youre a good parent, and not bad like the other ones. One thing I've learned here is that the basic training and educational requirements that allow you to teach phys. ed. to elementary school kids also qualifies you to determine where and how to interject into a parent/child relationship. Im not sure which course covers this topic but there are so many experts now that just so happen to be lowly-educated teachers.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ya, I'm the creep, not the guy saying a teen confiding in a teacher that they're a victim of bullying for being gay is more about sex than seeking help. What a disgusting psychopath. Lol yeah ok, re-read this post 5 times and if you cant look in the mirror and realize how insane you are, go seek professional help
March 27, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Ok. I thought you were like Kz, giving parental advice without having any idea what you're talking about. You're wrong here regardless. Kids seek guidance where they can find it and a lot of parents suck. Exhibit A: What about at church? Their youth pastor? Would you recommend they seek guidance there, and hide it from their bad, evil parents??
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah that's what you're doing. Thats why you get so triggered when I ask you simple questions What about a straight kid? Would you be willing to counsel a little girl too? Keep information away from her parents if she has questions or concerns about sex? Lets run this issue right into the ground and see where it goes What about a straight kid? They're not talking about sexual acts dude. I don't know what your sick little mind thinks is being counseled, they're not giving them pointers about sex. That's the problem, you homophobic types think it's a bunch of gay counselors giving confused teens ideas about how to suck a deek. So would I be willing to counsel a "little girl"? No, because literally nobody except your sick ass is talking about counseling pre-pubescent kids about sexual identity. And literally NOBODY is talking about counseling as "giving pointers about sex to kids". But if an adolescent girl for some reason trusted me enough to come to me and say they were having feelings about being gay but that they didn't think their parents would accept them, yeah I would do what I could to help them. That would mainly involve reassuring them that it doesn't make them broken, nor does it make their parents bad if they too struggle because it's a complicated topic for both parents and kids. It's called having empathy. Maybe you should try it on sometime.
March 27, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm fine with my kids getting support anywhere they can find it, and I'm not so arrogant as to believe my teen son would be comfortable talking with mom and dad about certain topics. What about the local gas station? Or maybe whatever adult they run into at the playground. Its support, right? The kids need it.
March 27, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: What about at church? Their youth pastor? Would you recommend they seek guidance there, and hide it from their bad, evil parents?? What church? Catholic? Probably not. Other denominations may be more accepting. You're the one here seeking to close off any paths to support "except" parents for teenagers. That makes you the one that needs to seek help. The right has turned parent's rights into "only parents can ever teach their kids anything" because you've made yourselves afraid of anything that doesn't align with your thinking. You can follow that path for your own, but you won't like what you find.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: What about a straight kid? They're not talking about sexual acts dude. I don't know what your sick little mind thinks is being counseled, they're not giving them pointers about sex. That's the problem, you homophobic types think it's a bunch of gay counselors giving confused teens ideas about how to suck a deek. So would I be willing to counsel a "little girl"? No, because literally nobody except your sick ass is talking about counseling pre-pubescent kids about sexual identity. And literally NOBODY is talking about counseling as "giving pointers about sex to kids". But if an adolescent girl for some reason trusted me enough to come to me and say they were having feelings about being gay but that they didn't think their parents would accept them, yeah I would do what I could to help them. That would mainly involve reassuring them that it doesn't make them broken, nor does it make their parents bad if they too struggle because it's a complicated topic for both parents and kids. It's called having empathy. Maybe you should try it on sometime. Still cant answer a simple question because it took me all of 5 minutes to break down your retarded logic
March 27, 20232 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: What about the local gas station? Or maybe whatever adult they run into at the playground. Its support, right? The kids need it.
March 27, 20232 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: What church? Catholic? Probably not. Other denominations may be more accepting. You're the one here seeking to close off any paths to support "except" parents for teenagers. That makes you the one that needs to seek help. The right has turned parent's rights into "only parents can ever teach their kids anything" because you've made yourselves afraid of anything that doesn't align with your thinking. You can follow that path for your own, but you won't like what you find. Oh so now there are caveats. So is it still any and all teachers? Or are some teachers bad now? You're little child can pick some teachers/adults to confide in, but not others. Interesting. Either way you wont know so why does it matter to you? Theyre getting the much-needed support and thats all that matters.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Still cant answer a simple question because it took me all of 5 minutes to break down your retarded logic You haven't answered a single thing dude. You would be best to just find yourself a nice cult and live on a commune away from society because that's where you'd fit in with this goofy logic.
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