June 30, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, paco said: I’ve only been there between November and March. It’s cold as hell and gray. Between that and that stupid accent I wanted to blow my brains out They claim the summers are lovely, so I’ll have to take their word for it We went one year for New Years to hang out with friends (before kids). I have no idea what we were thinking. It was like 10 degrees.
June 30, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: We went one year for New Years to hang out with friends (before kids). I have no idea what we were thinking. It was like 10 degrees. Worst i experienced there was negative 16. That was "It burns to touch the steering wheel” cold
June 30, 20205 yr 44 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I have. I cannot say I know it well, but I have visited multiple times for business and pleasure. That is completely wrong. It is not where the house is. The house is on Portland place. The image you posted earlier was correct. Portland place is a couple blocks north of Forest Park. Walk east a little over 4 miles and you're at the mayor's. Have you guys ever walked in any kind of March? For Church, March for science, anything? You walk through neighborhoods. The point is to get your message heard. How often do you break down a gate to a gated community during your walks? I’ve been on a few walks, either for Boy Scouts, a hike for fun, community service back in high school to look good on a college application, science walks. I can say that we’ve never broken down a gate to do these walks. Did I do them wrong?
June 30, 20205 yr -20F with wind chills to -40F in Palmyra, WI one year. I woke up to ice on the inside of the hotel room window.
June 30, 20205 yr The mistake the St. Louis mayor made was reading people’s addresses on Facebook live who had sent her letters. Why she did that we’ll never know. But people took it as an intimidation tactic. so yeah, protesters were going to her house when they trespassed through the gun couple’s yard. that’s my understanding anyway.
June 30, 20205 yr I was in St. Louis for a friend's wedding the night the Cards won Game 7 of the World Series in 2011. Pretty fun to experience. Some of our friends actually went to Game 6 which might have been one of the most dramatic playoff games of all time. Lucky ****. I was in the wedding party and had to go to the rehearsal/dinner or else I'd have gone to the game too. Then the wife and I flew to Philly to watch the birds lay a beatdown on the Cowboys on SNF. Man... to be kidless and have disposable income again. Anyways, that's my St. Louis story. There's literally no reason to go there if you don't have to.
June 30, 20205 yr Thanks to the violent Democrat mob for helping to finally, definitively, answer the question, ‘Why does anyone need an AR-15?’
June 30, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, The_Omega said: Thanks to the violent Democrat mob for helping to finally, definitively, answer the question, ‘Why does anyone need an AR-15?’ It’s funny, my wife has been wanting to get some kind of handgun for a while now and I keep telling her that I’m not a gun person because I don’t know if I could use it on another person. Just the other day with all the riots, violence and the whole dismantle the police BS I actually said to her, "Maybe it is time to look into getting a gun”.
June 30, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, paco said: Well now I know you're lying lol, well, yeah there was not a ton of sights to see. it was for a wedding though, which was very nice.
June 30, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, The_Omega said: They broke down a gate to invade the property, then threatened the property owners lives. Yeah, using threats and intimidation for political ends, they’re terrorists. No one here is surprised that you excuse it though. the statement you passed was from the attorney. here is video showing the gate not broken: there is plenty of video of this incident, and none of it showed any threats made towards the couple. from the video above, it appears they were walking through from the other direction (from the east side). I had assumed they were walking towards the mayor's office, which would be further east, but apparently they were going to the mayor's home as a statement against the mayor's airing of names and addresses of those supporting the defund the police. I don't know where they were marching towards then, it may have been the next block. who knows.
June 30, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I have. I cannot say I know it well, but I have visited multiple times for business and pleasure. That is completely wrong. It is not where the house is. The house is on Portland place. The image you posted earlier was correct. Portland place is a couple blocks north of Forest Park. Walk east a little over 4 miles and you're at the mayor's. Have you guys ever walked in any kind of March? For Church, March for science, anything? You walk through neighborhoods. The point is to get your message heard. This dude just compared these protests to a church march or a march for science lmfao
June 30, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, Dave Moss said: The mistake the St. Louis mayor made was reading people’s addresses on Facebook live who had sent her letters. Why she did that we’ll never know. But people took it as an intimidation tactic. so yeah, protesters were going to her house when they trespassed through the gun couple’s yard. that’s my understanding anyway. that was the story i read as well....they were heading to the mayor's house...not office. won't stop the maroons on here from lying about it & posting google maps though.
June 30, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: that was the story i read as well....they were heading to the mayor's house...not office. won't stop the maroons on here from lying about it & posting google maps though. Oh, an angry mob going to someones home instead of the business to "protest". That's moar betta!
June 30, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, Kz! said: This dude just compared these protests to a church march or a march for science lmfao Christ you're obtuse. I cannot tell if it's willful or just your natural state. I was talking about whether you guys had ever marched at all for a damn thing in your lives because walking 4 miles is hardly some major hurdle. You can walk an extremely leisurely pace and go 4 miles in under 2 hours.
June 30, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, paco said: Oh, an angry mob going to someones home instead of the business to "protest". That's moar betta! odd take. but you're entitled to it.
June 30, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, paco said: Oh, an angry mob going to someones home instead of the business to "protest". That's moar betta! pretty sure it was a direct response to the Mayor doing the same to her constituents. That was the point.
June 30, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Christ you're obtuse. I cannot tell if it's willful or just your natural state. I was talking about whether you guys had ever marched at all for a damn thing in your lives because walking 4 miles is hardly some major hurdle. You can walk an extremely leisurely pace and go 4 miles in under 2 hours. No, you were explaining why people march through neighborhoods (to "get your message heard"), not the speed you can walk 4 miles. Look, I'll re-quote it to refresh your memory: Quote Have you guys ever walked in any kind of March? For Church, March for science, anything? You walk through neighborhoods. The point is to get your message heard.
June 30, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: "domestic terrorists." Get a grip. They were Americans exercising their right to petition the government for redress of grievances, passing through on the way to the mayor's office. They weren't rioting. They weren't aggressive. They weren't threatening. They were literally walking down the street past these homes. I understand the homeowners not wanting to take chances and being on alert. But pointing a gun at them? Really? You're defending that? If this was a bunch of right wing protesters marching on the Gov. of Minnesota and some liberal started waving a gun at them as they passed by, and the protesters opened fire on the guy, you'd have half this board defending the protesters on "stand your ground" principles. Jesus man, get some principles. You get a grip. They are the textbook definition of terrorists and they literally ripped down an iron gate to trespass on private property. In a lot of states they could have legally been shot dead for doing what they did, and I would imagine that Missouri is one of them. So, yes, I will 100% defend pointing a gun at the violent terrorist mob that has been burning cities to the ground for a month straight and had that very same day assaulted multiple people. The fact that all these people did was point the guns showed incredible restraint.
June 30, 20205 yr as much as i enjoyed the walking directions to the mayor's office, the protesters were marching to the mayor's house a block away from the mccloskey's house...not 4 miles away....a block away. i know "the right" is allergic to facts...but that's what happened. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/couple-points-guns-at-protesters-marching-to-st-louis-mayor-s-home-to-demand-resignation/article_9edc57ed-c307-583f-9226-a44ba6ac9c03.html Quote ST. LOUIS — As protesters made their way to Mayor Lyda Krewson’s home on Sunday night, demanding her resignation, they marched and shouted along private Portland Place. They were met by a couple pointing guns and telling protesters to get away. The crowd of protesters eventually moved on and arrived at Krewson’s home on Lake Avenue a block away. tbs, other than really sheety gun safety, i don't have a problem with the mccloskey's defending their home.
June 30, 20205 yr Here’s the gate that the peaceful protesters gently opened during their peaceful march to the mayors house. Through the McCloskey’s yard.
June 30, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, iladelphxx said: The Mayor's Office is literally on the other side of the city..... 11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: You can't walk 4 miles? 11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Portland place is a couple blocks north of Forest Park. Walk east a little over 4 miles and you're at the mayor's. Have you guys ever walked in any kind of March? For Church, March for science, anything? You walk through neighborhoods. The point is to get your message heard. 16 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Christ you're obtuse. I cannot tell if it's willful or just your natural state. I was talking about whether you guys had ever marched at all for a damn thing in your lives because walking 4 miles is hardly some major hurdle. You can walk an extremely leisurely pace and go 4 miles in under 2 hours. 12 minutes ago, Kz! said: No, you were explaining why people march through neighborhoods (to "get your message heard"), not the speed you can walk 4 miles. Look, I'll re-quote it to refresh your memory: Ok let's walk (HAH bad pun) through this slowly so you can understand. You said "the mayor's office is literally on the other side of the city". seems a clear implication that there's no way a protest walk would go a whole 4 miles. To which I replied "you can't walk 4 miles?" you responded with some made up map you found online somewhere trying to show ... well, f if I know. I said then if you walk east from Forest Park you get to the mayor's office. notwithstanding that apparently they were going to the mayor's home, whose location I cannot determine (maybe someone better at internet stalking can), again I indicate a 4 mile walk is hardly onerous. I asked if anybody here had been for any kind of protest or charity walk, relating the two purely on the basis of whether a 4 mile walk is some kind of major milestone. maybe you guys are so obese that just the thought of walking to get the mail has you breaking out in a sweat, I don't know. It's like you cannot possibly follow a thread of thought. Charitably I'd say you're being willfully obtuse, seizing on any kind of mundane tangential thought I pepper my responses with as a way of reframing the debate. It's been done here before, a lot. If I'm being honest, I think you're just too stubborn and sheltered to possibly see anything from a point of view that hasn't already been spoon-fed to you by right-wing echo chambers.
June 30, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Ok let's walk (HAH bad pun) through this slowly so you can understand. You said "the mayor's office is literally on the other side of the city". seems a clear implication that there's no way a protest walk would go a whole 4 miles. To which I replied "you can't walk 4 miles?" you responded with some made up map you found online somewhere trying to show ... well, f if I know. I said then if you walk east from Forest Park you get to the mayor's office. notwithstanding that apparently they were going to the mayor's home, whose location I cannot determine (maybe someone better at internet stalking can), again I indicate a 4 mile walk is hardly onerous. I asked if anybody here had been for any kind of protest or charity walk, relating the two purely on the basis of whether a 4 mile walk is some kind of major milestone. maybe you guys are so obese that just the thought of walking to get the mail has you breaking out in a sweat, I don't know. It's like you cannot possibly follow a thread of thought. Charitably I'd say you're being willfully obtuse, seizing on any kind of mundane tangential thought I pepper my responses with as a way of reframing the debate. It's been done here before, a lot. If I'm being honest, I think you're just too stubborn and sheltered to possibly see anything from a point of view that hasn't already been spoon-fed to you by right-wing echo chambers. I just joined the conversation with the first post laughing that you'd compare these protestors to a march for science or a church march. You're having a separate argument with someone else.
June 30, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: tbs, other than really sheety gun safety, i don't have a problem with the mccloskey's defending their home. wait, thats there name? makes sense now. they probably had a still out back that they brought from the Okefenokee.....
June 30, 20205 yr 21 minutes ago, TEW said: You get a grip. They are the textbook definition of terrorists and they literally ripped down an iron gate to trespass on private property. In a lot of states they could have legally been shot dead for doing what they did, and I would imagine that Missouri is one of them. So, yes, I will 100% defend pointing a gun at the violent terrorist mob that has been burning cities to the ground for a month straight and had that very same day assaulted multiple people. The fact that all these people did was point the guns showed incredible restraint. Watch the video. They didn't rip down anything to walk through. They literally opened a gate and were walking through to the Mayor's house a block away. Unless the protesters were coming at the couple (which they were not) or trying to get into their home (which they were not). https://www.kmov.com/news/experts-examine-whether-it-was-legal-for-st-louis-couple-to-point-guns-at-protesters/article_ef18bb82-ba77-11ea-8432-2b81e9df592a.html that article is the most I could find, and it's hardly authoritative. but one item it does indicate is that the couple may have broken the law by aiming the gun at the protesters. I know you wish it were so, but you cannot wave a gun at someone for trespassing. if they are actually threatening you - coming at you, trying to break into your home, or steal property outside it, yes you can use your weapon for self-defense. you can have someone arrested for trespassing. but you can't aim a gun wildly at them and threaten the protester with lethal force, even on your own property.
June 30, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Kz! said: I just joined the conversation with the first post laughing that you'd compare these protestors to a march for science or a church march. You're having a separate argument with someone else. fair enough. I got you and iladelphxx confused. mea culpa, and my apologies. to clarify, my comparison with the march for science or a church march was around the distance. some here seem to think a 4 mile walk is somehow prohibitive.
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