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Poll: Why did Putin invade Ukraine while Obama and Biden were in office and not while Trump was in office

Why did Putin invade Ukraine while Obama and Biden were in office and not while Trump was in office? 21 members have voted

  1. 1. Why did he time the invasions when he did?

    • He invaded Crimea because Obama did not follow up with his red line in the sand and invaded Ukraine proper because Biden bungled the Afghan withdrawal.
      38%
    • He invaded in 2022 because Trump weakened NATO and did not want to stop Trump from doing so.
      61%

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8 minutes ago, Procus said:

I see Boogyman voted for the second option.  Makes me seriously reconsider my position . . .

If my ownage of you was any greater I'd have to pay taxes on it.

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3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

:roll:

What, you mean I supported the Ministry of Truth and censorship on social media.  Do tell Jonny boy

This poll is not going the way procus thought it would, I feel a vote from @Newman! for option 1 incoming.

I voted for option 1, it is too easy to blame the next president for everything

Oh F.  Vikas called me out so I can't engage on this one with you @Procus  I'll just have to settle for reading along and checking out what every one else has to say.  btw - Go ahead and mark this one as the "I don't need no stinkin nuance poll".

:P

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

This poll is not going the way procus thought it would, I feel a vote from @Newman! for option 1 incoming.

Just wait until the @mr_hunt clones come out

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2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Oh F.  Vikas called me out so I can't engage on this one with you @Procus  I'll just have to settle for reading along and checking out what every one else has to say.  btw - Go ahead and mark this one as the "I don't need no stinkin nuance poll".

:P

Feel free to PM me

1 minute ago, Procus said:

Feel free to PM me

Nah, I think we're good on this one

55 minutes ago, Procus said:

 

Okay idiot - here's a video that supports your point of view.  Most of the country disagrees.

 

smash

just watched the whole video, and she's barely in it. Procus, I've never been more disappointed in you than I am right now. wtf, man

With the way it's going it doesn't seem very planned. Would not be shocked if he just wanted it now and decided to attack now

1 hour ago, Procus said:

So in other words, NATO was inextricably weakened by Trump so much that Putin decided to invade (but not before Biden bungled the Afghan withdrawal).

If NATO is so weak, then why do Finland and Sweden want to join?  And as a follow up, where have you seen this theory of the timing of the invasion other than on the Eagles Message Boards?

Oh, you're asking why NATO got stronger after Trump was voted out of office? I'll tell you why!

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Putin was bound by law to cede power to Medvedev in 2008 and he didn't return to the Russian presidency until 2012. You can consider that the point at which he put a vice grip on the position. So... he wasn't even in a position to invade Crimea until Obama was starting his 2nd term. Like... that's just how it all worked out. He wasn't sitting around as prime minister scheming on Barry. He was spending his time working out his plans to be Russia's forever president. 

Two years after it happened he invaded Crimea. It's that simple. But, in typical MAGA fashion, you take the intellectual long way around just to arrive at the wrong conclusion. 

2 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

How did Trump weaken NATO ?. one of few good things he did was put pressure on other countries to contribute more, is there another option, neither is valid really although the first is more valid

https://www.dw.com/en/donald-trump-on-nato-top-quotes/g-44588734

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I see so far the only people who chose the weakened NATO option are radical left wingers

14 hours ago, Procus said:

I see so far the only people who chose the weakened NATO option are radical left wingers

Cool. You got three Trumplicans (which makes you Alt Right and far more radical than anyone else on this board) and the Chicken Little of the EMB.

 

Why did a KGB goon dictator do something?

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55 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Cool. You got three Trumplicans (which makes you Alt Right and far more radical than anyone else on this board) and the Chicken Little of the EMB.

As a radical left wing commie pinko, your opinion is tainted

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

As a radical left wing commie pinko, your opinion is tainted

You know that Joe Shades voted Option 1 and he's probably the farthest left commie in here, right?

14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

You know that Joe Shades voted Option 1 and he's probably the farthest left commie in here, right?

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17 minutes ago, Procus said:

As a radical right wing commie pinko, my opinion is tainted

Sure is

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

:unsure:

Nothing against you, but based on your posting history, it's true.

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4 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

I sure am a radical left wing commie pinko, and proud of it

 

16 hours ago, Procus said:

I see so far the only people who chose the weakened NATO option are radical left wingers

:lol: @ Me, Bill, and Dr Philly as radical left wingers. It's almost as good as when TJ and Vikas get called lefties. 

16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Nothing against you, but based on your posting history, it's true.

I have been called a russian apologist when I said it was stupid for a Senator to demand we threaten  Russia with nukes, a left winger when I was for vacccine mandates and a right winger for being against mask mandates :wacko:

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