October 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: dude, seriously, STFU and go find a wood chipper to jump into. if this was a young team, i would have something to look forward to, problem is you have money on aging players, wheeler could lose a step from his injuries, nola is nola, he's not cole hamels, he could really suck next year. every player we have on this roster that's good is aging and inconsistent besides schwarber, if we cant move on from some of these players, this might be the only time we make the playoffs, there's no young talent on this roster to build from. 07 phillies didnt have aging talent that's why we went on a long run.
October 4, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said: if this was a young team, i would have something to look forward to, problem is you have money on aging players, wheeler could lose a step from his injuries, nola is nola, he's not cole hamels, he could really suck next year. every player we have on this roster that's good is aging and inconsistent besides schwarber, if we cant move on from some of these players, this might be the only time we make the playoffs, there's no young talent on this roster to build from. 07 phillies didnt have aging talent that's why we went on a long run. Just saying the Phillies have painter, Abel and McGarry coming up. If painter and Abel are what we think they have a pretty nasty rotation. Their issue at that point is they need to draft and develop better positional players. Particularly at catcher and outfield. If Sosa hits like he did with us and last year with the cardinals he’s likely your 3b and you move bohm to first. Sosa kind of reminds me of Pedro Feliz and he’s young. The issue is Harper’s elbow so castellanos and schwarber have to play the outfield until that’s fully heal. They also need a catcher for when realmuto declines which he’s 32 next year. I’d have been much more happy with the marsh trade of the Phillies spent their first on a catcher like Daniel Susac who was a hitting machine and good defensive catcher at Arizona. He’s ready in 1.5-2 years which is the timeline for when realmuto is likely declined I’m guessing this offseason is find another starting pitcher, add 2 bullpen pieces and sign someone like bogerts or Turner.
October 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, mikemack8 said: How pathetic is that About as pathetic as being the first major sports franchise to register 10,000 losses. We do everything to the max in Philly, even losing
October 4, 20223 yr Well the A’s won five titles in Philadelphia. So there were good baseball teams in Philadelphia, they just were not in the National League. And no one is ever catching Connie Mack btw
October 4, 20223 yr 46 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I kind of agree with everything, but I'll take what I can get. Also, how in the world does making the playoffs this year, mean they won't make it the next 10 years? That makes no sense. Frankly i think the Phillies use painter next year as one of the starters and goes out and gets another starter. I guess their big signing is going to be turner or bogerts then fix the bullpen around Alvarado, dominguez. If wheeler, nola and Suarez pitch like this year and painter is the real deal then their rotation is actually really good. Problem is Phillies prospects are Phillies prospects
October 4, 20223 yr I really hope this kid is an all timer type pitcher. Would be amazing if he turned out to be
October 4, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I hate two of the Phillies players. Not that it ruins it for me. But i loathe them. Who are they?
October 4, 20223 yr I can't stand Castellanos. Hoskins and Segura are the type I can tolerate as long as they are winning. Something about them rubs me the wrong way.
October 4, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, toughfighter83 said: if this was a young team, i would have something to look forward to, problem is you have money on aging players, wheeler could lose a step from his injuries, nola is nola, he's not cole hamels, he could really suck next year. every player we have on this roster that's good is aging and inconsistent besides schwarber, if we cant move on from some of these players, this might be the only time we make the playoffs, there's no young talent on this roster to build from. 07 phillies didnt have aging talent that's why we went on a long run. Im not ecstatic about them but they have some good young pitching that should come up the next few years. Abel, painter, mcgarry
October 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Hoskins Bohm Fair enough. Hoskins I get. Bohm I know nothing about, but I did see him play in Reading and he hit HR that game, so I feel compelled to like him
October 4, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: His face and EMO attitude rub me the wrong way. I’m sure he really is concerned about my opinion. 😂 I can see that. Everyone has one of those "face guys."
October 4, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: 5 hours ago, mikemack8 said: How pathetic is that Not as pathetic as it sounds... By the way this is going to be long with a lot of simple data- feel free to skim on by... The first 19 of those 140 years there was no postseason to make and then for the next 66 only 2 teams made the postseason (admittedly the Phillies were a train wreck in that stretch, but what do I care, that was before I was even alive). Let's look at teams that were around in 1903 (which is when the postseason started) and the number of times that they've made the postseason (number in parentheses is playoff seasons since 1969- when # of teams in postseason initially changed)- for teams that came around after 1903 but up to 1969, I've only put the number since 1969 in parentheses, since that makes for a fair comparison: Phillies: 15 (13) Braves: 28 (24) Orioles: 14 (13) Red Sox: 25 (18) Cubs: 21 (11) White Sox: 11 (7) Reds: 16 (12) Indians: 16 (13) Tigers: 16 (8) Astros: (16) Royals: (9) Angels: (10) Dodgers: 36 (23) Brewers (Seattle Pilots): (8) Twins (Washington Senators): 17 (13) New York Mets: (10) New York Yankees: 58 (29) Athletics (Phil/KC/Oak): 29 (21) Pirates: 17 (12) Padres: (7) Giants: 27 (12) Cardinals: 32 (20) Rangers (Washington Senators): (8) Nationals (Expos): (6) So, out of teams that have been around since postseason began in 1903, Phillies rank 14 out of 16 teams- bad, but not the worst. For teams starting in the divisional era, they rank tied for 8th out of 24. Not only is this not pathetic, but it's actually above the median. I've got to admit, that even surprised me. Since 1969, and the advent of postseason being bigger than just the 2 teams that meet in the world series the Phillies have been more successful than most of the league that has existed during that entire stretch. The Phillies haven't really sucked as badly as most of us thought, at least not during our lifetimes.
October 4, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, NothingClever said: Not as pathetic as it sounds... By the way this is going to be long with a lot of simple data- feel free to skim on by... The first 19 of those 140 years there was no postseason to make and then for the next 66 only 2 teams made the postseason (admittedly the Phillies were a train wreck in that stretch, but what do I care, that was before I was even alive). Let's look at teams that were around in 1903 (which is when the postseason started) and the number of times that they've made the postseason (number in parentheses is playoff seasons since 1969- when # of teams in postseason initially changed)- for teams that came around after 1903 but up to 1969, I've only put the number since 1969 in parentheses, since that makes for a fair comparison: Phillies: 15 (13) Braves: 28 (24) Orioles: 14 (13) Red Sox: 25 (18) Cubs: 21 (11) White Sox: 11 (7) Reds: 16 (12) Indians: 16 (13) Tigers: 16 (8) Astros: (16) Royals: (9) Angels: (10) Dodgers: 36 (23) Brewers (Seattle Pilots): (8) Twins (Washington Senators): 17 (13) New York Mets: (10) New York Yankees: 58 (29) Athletics (Phil/KC/Oak): 29 (21) Pirates: 17 (12) Padres: (7) Giants: 27 (12) Cardinals: 32 (20) Rangers (Washington Senators): (8) Nationals (Expos): (6) So, out of teams that have been around since postseason began in 1903, Phillies rank 14 out of 16 teams- bad, but not the worst. For teams starting in the divisional era, they rank tied for 8th out of 24. Not only is this not pathetic, but it's actually above the median. I've got to admit, that even surprised me. Since 1969, and the advent of postseason being bigger than just the 2 teams that meet in the world series the Phillies have been more successful than most of the league that has existed during that entire stretch. The Phillies haven't really sucked as badly as most of us thought, at least not during our lifetimes. Idk I’m 38, they made the playoffs 7 times in that amount of years with a big market. Went from being born until 9 before they made the playoffs. Then 9 to 23 to make it again. Now 27 to 38
October 4, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, SB52 said: Now they have to not catch the Padres. I say "Bring on the Mets" (of course I doubt that they'll catch the Padres because that would take at least one maybe two more wins against the Astros). I can't be the only person in here who remembers 1983 when the Phillies went 1-11 (and were shut out 5 times) against the Dodgers in the regular season, and everyone was wringing their hands about how the Dodgers were going to steamroll the Phillies in the playoffs because they owned them in the regular season. The playoffs are a whole different beast, and I can't imagine anything more satisfying than them sending the Mets packing (unless of course they get super hot and go all the way). Stranger things have happened- I'm sure most of us remember a wild card Cardinals team that no one really thought had a chance in the playoffs getting through the top seeded Phillies on their way to winning the World Series.
October 4, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Idk I’m 38, they made the playoffs 7 times in that amount of years with a big market. Went from being born until 9 before they made the playoffs. Then 9 to 23 to make it again. Now 27 to 38 You were just young enough to miss that 1976-1983 stretch- what I've often referred to as the "golden age" of Philadelphia sports. Our teams in all sports were playing for titles or close to it a lot in those years and that was when I was 2-9 years old. I just assumed that the Philadelphia teams would always be playing for titles. Life has sucked that delusion out of me.
October 5, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Blazehound said: Suarez brought his A game tonight. This is what it’s like to pitch with a hangover.
October 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: This is what it’s like to pitch with a hangover. Hangover? Pffft...Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls.
October 5, 20223 yr 35 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Hangover? Pffft...Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls. Bill Spaceman Lee.
October 5, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Hangover? Pffft...Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls. They were built tougher back then
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