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4 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Turner is a blackhole in the lineup. Guthrie hits a 2 out double then Trea hacks at the first pitch and grounds out to short for the 3rd out. 0-3 with 2 k's so far. 

Right now he is. However the pitcher for the cubs has been excellent all year. Before his last start against Houston his era was 1.82 through 8 starts. Then got shelled against the Astros. Steele is gonna be a really good pitcher. They should’ve sat Turner today and not yesterday. Asking for his slump to continue against Steele 

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Castellanos tags on a fly to short right and predictably gets thrown out at third. Why would you do that with JT up?

Just now, vsptroops said:

Castellanos tags on a fly to short right and predictably gets thrown out at third. Why would you do that with JT up?

Their base running has been a disaster all year 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Their base running has been a disaster all year 

It's just plain dumb. No reason for it. That's just not understanding situational baseball. Mr. nice guy manager isn't gonna fix it so I'm sure we will continue to keep seeing the same crap throughout the season.

12 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

It's just plain dumb. No reason for it. That's just not understanding situational baseball. Mr. nice guy manager isn't gonna fix it so I'm sure we will continue to keep seeing the same crap throughout the season.

Yup. What’s amazing with Thomson is how dangerously close he was to not being the manager going forward if the brewers didn’t collapse the last week of the regular season and then they got to a ws and now is the trusted manager 

That was nice pinch hit at bat! Way to go stott 

Stott with the pinch hit 2 run bomb!!

4 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Stott with the pinch hit 2 run bomb!!

And Turner got a double. But like usual we return to not hitting with RISP 

Got the win. But really we should be using soto or dominguez as the closer not kimbrel. Neither have been spectacular but both are better than kimbrel. 

Marsh and Turner are the white versions of Herrera and Gregorious, Turner seems like a low energy guy that got his money and is going through the motions, completely opposite of Harper in his first year, Schawrber sucks but hits the occasional long home run and some how that is supposed to be good enough, Realmuto is in decline, Nola overrated, wheeler best days behind him

Wheeler looks like Vince Velasquez out there. He stinks 

Starting pitching is becoming very concerning. Are there any prospects down the pipe line that have #2 type potential?

Last year was lightning in a bottle

36 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Last year was lightning in a bottle

I think so. The bats will come around but their starting pitching just isn’t good enough. All those innings killed Nola and Wheeler.

2 hours ago, Khani1 said:

Starting pitching is becoming very concerning. Are there any prospects down the pipe line that have #2 type potential?

Mick Abel

15 hours ago, Khani1 said:

Starting pitching is becoming very concerning. Are there any prospects down the pipe line that have #2 type potential?

Yea 3 of them.  Painter, Abel, and Mcgarry.  Painter is the massively hyped one but is on the fast track to losing 2-3 full years of his career by not pitching at all this year and getting TJ next year.  With how Phillies top prospects pan out, I don't even think of him as being in the pipeline at this point.  He's going to have to prove himself all over again before we can bank on help there.

Abel and Mcgarry are very legit high upside pitching prospects in their own right.  They are only in AA and Mcgarry will probably find himself in the bullpen if he gets rushed.  IMO, he's still young enough with a diverse enough arsenal to project as a starter, but he's going to be a bullpen guy if he gets fast-tracked.  Abel is only 21 and has front-end stuff and frame, but isn't even mowing them down in AA at the moment.  He is probably a late season call up next year. 

Of course, if the Phillies get desperate, they could move one of those 3 for more immediate help.  I wouldn't like that, but the pressure to win is there.

What makes Caleb Cotham qualified to be a pitching coach other than he pitched?

15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

What makes Caleb Cotham qualified to be a pitching coach other than he pitched?

Good question 

8 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Yea 3 of them.  Painter, Abel, and Mcgarry.  Painter is the massively hyped one but is on the fast track to losing 2-3 full years of his career by not pitching at all this year and getting TJ next year.  With how Phillies top prospects pan out, I don't even think of him as being in the pipeline at this point.  He's going to have to prove himself all over again before we can bank on help there.

Abel and Mcgarry are very legit high upside pitching prospects in their own right.  They are only in AA and Mcgarry will probably find himself in the bullpen if he gets rushed.  IMO, he's still young enough with a diverse enough arsenal to project as a starter, but he's going to be a bullpen guy if he gets fast-tracked.  Abel is only 21 and has front-end stuff and frame, but isn't even mowing them down in AA at the moment.  He is probably a late season call up next year. 

Of course, if the Phillies get desperate, they could move one of those 3 for more immediate help.  I wouldn't like that, but the pressure to win is there.

Im fine if the Phillies deal McGarry or Abel to get Bieber from the guardians assuming they lock up Bieber long term. 

Well finally got some hits with runners in scoring position. So that’s good. 

better win this game cause gallen vs. Suarez tomorrow is gonna be ugly 

Of course dominguez gives it right back the next half inning. Fantastic. 

If the dbacks were smart they’d walk castellanos and force schwarber to hit with RISP where he’s been awful batting .128

and that’s exactly what happened 

23 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Last year was lightning in a bottle

The Phillies postseason was like one of these postseason runs that you see in the NHL, like the 8-seed Panthers losing one game all postseason on the way to the Stanley Cup Finals, or when the 8-seed Kings won the Stanley Cup in 2012, or when the 7-seed Flyers made the Stanley Cup Finals in 2010.

Our hitting with RISP is dreadful outside of bohm, castellanos, marsh and sosa. 

Avg with RISP 


Stott .227
Turner .175
Schwarber .128
Harper .143
Casey .286
Realmuto .231
Bohm .321
Sosa .259
Clemens .125
Marsh .286

2 hours ago, xzmattzx said:

The Phillies postseason was like one of these postseason runs that you see in the NHL, like the 8-seed Panthers losing one game all postseason on the way to the Stanley Cup Finals, or when the 8-seed Kings won the Stanley Cup in 2012, or when the 7-seed Flyers made the Stanley Cup Finals in 2010.

Or just the 1993 Phillies. They went back to sucking in 1994. 

25 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Or just the 1993 Phillies. They went back to sucking in 1994. 

The 1993 Phillies were good all season, albeit for one season.  The 2023 Phillies were an underperforming team that got hot in the playoffs.  It really seems like the Florida Panthers right now: underperforming in the regular season (defending Presidents Trophy winners) and squeaking into the playoffs, then firing on all cylinders and everyone playing as they should at the right time.

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