July 17, 20232 yr Pretty impressive to win the last 3 while coming from behind in each one. Huge series coming up against the Brewers
July 17, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Brewers are the real test Yeah and they're playing well lately. Should be a good series.
July 17, 20232 yr Man I just caught up on this thread since Friday morning. You guys need to relax a little over a 162 game season. Basically talking about moving the team to Vegas after we lost one game on Friday. Also @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!I actually went back to look at how many times they have scored 4 runs or more in a row for games because I was curious if we all just have the mindset that the offense is inconsistent or if it's statistically true. Of the 93 games, they have had a streak of 4 or more runs scored 11 times. This is a little deflated because they have had numerous runs (8 total, with one run of 6 games in a row) of more than 2 games scoring 4 or more. Overall they have scored 4 or more in 50 of the 93 games. In comparison to the gold standard Braves, who have scored 4 or more runs in 68 or their 92 games (Also 11 times for a streak of 4 or more runs a game). Of course the Braves had quite a few long stretches of 4 or more games in a row. Now many may say eh who cares, but to me this is a good sign. We can clearly see just by watching that the offense is not playing quite up to its potential. However, even with this below expected performance, they have still been pretty good and are right in the mix with less than ideal pitching and injuries in the first half. So if it all starts clicking offensively, and the starting pitching ends up being just average, this team can do serious damage.
July 17, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, BirdsFanBill said: Man I just caught up on this thread since Friday morning. You guys need to relax a little over a 162 game season. Basically talking about moving the team to Vegas after we lost one game on Friday. Also @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles!I actually went back to look at how many times they have scored 4 runs or more in a row for games because I was curious if we all just have the mindset that the offense is inconsistent or if it's statistically true. Of the 93 games, they have had a streak of 4 or more runs scored 11 times. This is a little deflated because they have had numerous runs (8 total, with one run of 6 games in a row) of more than 2 games scoring 4 or more. Overall they have scored 4 or more in 50 of the 93 games. In comparison to the gold standard Braves, who have scored 4 or more runs in 68 or their 92 games (Also 11 times for a streak of 4 or more runs a game). Of course the Braves had quite a few long stretches of 4 or more games in a row. Now many may say eh who cares, but to me this is a good sign. We can clearly see just by watching that the offense is not playing quite up to its potential. However, even with this below expected performance, they have still been pretty good and are right in the mix with less than ideal pitching and injuries in the first half. So if it all starts clicking offensively, and the starting pitching ends up being just average, this team can do serious damage. The Phillies issue with scoring 4 runs or more is more they’ll do it in a bunch for like a week to week and an half and then revert back for long stretch since he middle of may. It’s been the same issue going back to all the way to mid-May. In April to middle May they were actually consistent week to week. so start of the year to game one of this padres series: march 31-April 5th: 2 out of 6 games 4+ runs April 7-12: 4 out of 6 games 4+ runs april 13-19: 4 out of 7 games 4+ April 20-27: 4 out of 7 games 4+ april 28-May 3: 3 of 6 games 4+ May 5-13: 5 out of 7 games 4+ where they start to become less consistent besides the stretch from June 1-16 may 14-30: 6 of 16 games 4+ runs June 1st-16th: 11 out of 15 games were over 4+ runs (best stretch of the season) this is where week to week it’s anyones guess what you are gonna get june 17th-24: 1 out of 6 games they failed to score 4+ runs June 25-July 2nd: 5 of 7 they scored 4+ runs july 3rd to 1st game of the padres series: 2 of 7 they scored 4+ runs They actually scored 3 or less runs in 4 of the 5 games and 3 straight games of 3 runs before the doubleheader which is why i said what i did when they scored 4 runs At this point on the trajectory upward again. it’s whether or not they are able to sustain it for longer than a week at this point cause since middle of June it’s a week by week thing whether they score 4+ runs It’s not that they have to score 4 or more runs every single game but since mid june they tend to get going on offense then completely revert right after the (2 weeks to end May and to start June they were not good then got hot but since mid June been a constant roller coaster on offense week to week) before the DH from May 14-first padres game they played 51 games. Scored 3 or less runs in 26 and 4+ in 25 games. If you go from April 7-May 13 they scored 4+ runs 20 games and 13 games 3 or less. I discard the first week really because you never know what you’re gonna get week one coming out of spring training and the weather is kind of ****. But they were pretty nice from like the second week of April to middle of May; about 61% of the time scoring 4+. Obviously you hope it could be better but that’s not bad. For like the middle of May until now they’re right at around 50%. So about a 10 % drop in mid May to now. You’d like to ideal be up around 60 Like i said don’t need 4+ every night. But since middle of may and really the week to week since middle Of June they’ll go one week looking like they can be the best offense in baseball. Then the next week forget how to hit a baseball. I brought this up the other day as much ****ing and complaining we had about Rhys Hoskins, they miss his run producing. Especially when guys haven’t lived up to expectations a majority of the year. I had to look up the stats, but he batted 292 last year with runners in scoring position. And it wasn’t a little amount of at bat. It was a pretty sizable amount.
July 17, 20232 yr They were always going to miss Hoskins more than the fan base thought. You take an .800 (or more) OPS guy out of the lineup and you’ll feel it, especially when the spot in the batting order is taken by a sub .700 guy like Sosa (when he starts at third with Bohm at first).
July 17, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said: They were always going to miss Hoskins more than the fan base thought. You take an .800 (or more) OPS guy out of the lineup and you’ll feel it, especially when the spot in the batting order is taken by a sub .700 guy like Sosa (when he starts at third with Bohm at first). Don’t think they miss his defense. They’ve actually been better in that area. The spot they miss him is RISP. And really what he was in 2022 with RISP. Cause last year he had a career year with RISP as he hit .292. For his career he is .256. about 40 points above his average last year. Comparatively in 2021 he hit .231, in 2020 he hit .206 and 2019 was .219 with RISP. They miss 2022 Hoskins with RISP not as much as his previous 3 years prior. The Phillies have a good batting average, it’s top 10 as a team. They are getting guys on base. at the moment have a higher OPS (.745 vs .739) and OBP (.322 vs. .317) than the 2022 team. Their issue is Risp and HR. That’s not all missing Rhys in the HR department. Harper having 4 is an issue. Last year Phillies hit 205 HRs. They are on pace for 182 this year. (Harper on pace for 9. If he was on pace for just the 18 he had last year they’d finish with 191 HRs which would be 14 less). So a drop off but that can be attributed to harper and not having Rhys. likely much more than 205 if Rhys with the addition of Turner, and improvements of castellanos, bohm and stott. But stott, bohm and Turner are on pace give better HR production than what you got in the HR department from bohm, stott and segura last year. Ditto with castellanos and marsh vs marsh/odubel/CF and castellanos in 2022 the biggest issue was solution to his injury. using bohm, hall, sosa and Clemens combo is the issue. Can find a solid replacement for Rhys but you aren’t doing it with those 3 unless you got a solid hitting starting 3b so bohm could play 1b full time. It’s why I’ve said they should go get bellinger for the past 2 months. Can move harper to first but also he would allow you to have schwarber in DH but if Harper struggles at 1st you can put bellinger there and he’s been a gold glover there. so the 4 they were using to replace Rhys only bohm is hitting with RISP bohm .359 hall .071 sosa .227 clemens .120 Bohm is basically carrying it for two positions. What makes it worse is that harper, schwarber, realmuto and even Turner who’s decent haven’t been good enough schwarber .195 harper .224 realmuto .192 turner .261 can’t have your 4 of 5 highest paid position players not hitting well with RISP and not have Rhys Bohm, castellanos, stott and marsh have been good castellanos .287 stott .282 marsh .283
July 17, 20232 yr Just because the Reds are on the upswing doesn't mean they are a large-market team and big spenders. The only teams with a chance to get him, in my opinion, are the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Braves, Cubs, Cardinals, Rangers, Astros, Padres, Dodgers, Giants, Mariners, or stay with the Angels. And some of those teams are more in it because of prestige or connections than being able to bankroll him.
July 17, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, xzmattzx said: Just because the Reds are on the upswing doesn't mean they are a large-market team and big spenders. The only teams with a chance to get him, in my opinion, are the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Braves, Cubs, Cardinals, Rangers, Astros, Padres, Dodgers, Giants, Mariners, or stay with the Angels. And some of those teams are more in it because of prestige or connections than being able to bankroll him. Tbh he’s gonna go to the dodgers. They’ve been planning for this for awhile. I’d be shocked if it was anywhere else besides the dodgers or Yankees
July 17, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Tbh he’s gonna go to the dodgers. They’ve been planning for this for awhile. I’d be shocked if it was anywhere else besides the dodgers or Yankees This. Very obvious
July 17, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said: This. Very obvious I kind of hope the Phillies bring back Rhys on a 1 year deal that’s team friendly and go after Blake snell in the offseason. If we are gonna let nola go have to replace him. Snell has been pretty good the last two years after his down year in 2021 and 30. Don’t think you should count on painter next year with his elbow situation right now. Abel should be a nice 4-5 to start his career. I’d like the rotation wheeler, snell, Suarez, Walker and Abel/painter next year. In 2025 wheeler is 35 and good chance they don’t want to pay him can go snell, painter, Abel, Suarez and walker.
July 18, 20232 yr If the Padres continue to tank, I wonder if they become sellers. Snell would be a perfect pickup for us
July 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, iladelphxx said: If the Padres continue to tank, I wonder if they become sellers. Snell would be a perfect pickup for us I mentioned snell the other day. Only thing that bothers me with a deadline deal is he’s a FA at the end of the year. Don’t want to give up major prospects for a guy that can just walk. Would have to know he’s gonna extend here. But player wise he makes a ton of sense cause you need a 1-2 punch in the playoffs and right now i don’t know if Suarez, walker or nola is capable of being that with wheeler. Suarez has pitched well at times but he’s also looked shaky at times. Walker tends to dip in the second half and nola has been what he has been this year.
July 18, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: I mentioned snell the other day. Only thing that bothers me with a deadline deal is he’s a FA at the end of the year. Don’t want to give up major prospects for a guy that can just walk. Would have to know he’s gonna extend here. But player wise he makes a ton of sense cause you need a 1-2 punch in the playoffs and right now i don’t know if Suarez, walker or nola is capable of being that with wheeler. Suarez has pitched well at times but he’s also looked shaky at times. Walker tends to dip in the second half and nola has been what he has been this year. You'll get a comp pick so that lessens it
July 18, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, iladelphxx said: You'll get a comp pick so that lessens it the highest comp pick you’d get is a 2nd and a 5th if you qualify offer snell. It’s likely with the type of season snell is having and the market for him that they’ll ask for someone like Abel and an outfield prospect like de la Cruz. the odds are less likely you draft a kid that becomes a prospect as good as Abel with those two picks. Tbh if they are gonna give up Abel and de La Cruz type prospects they are likely better off going Shane Bieber who has a year left after this year. Would have to hope cleveland falters the next week and a half though
July 18, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: the highest comp pick you’d get is a 2nd and a 5th if you qualify offer snell. It’s likely with the type of season snell is having and the market for him that they’ll ask for someone like Abel and an outfield prospect like de la Cruz. the odds are less likely you draft a kid that becomes a prospect as good as Abel with those two picks. Tbh if they are gonna give up Abel and de La Cruz type prospects they are likely better off going Shane Bieber who has a year left after this year. Would have to hope cleveland falters the next week and a half though Not sure you can trade top prospects for a pitcher who just got shut down with elbow pain. I know they said he doesn't need surgery but that's a pretty big dice roll to pay a high price for him unless he is back and pitching at a high level to show he's healthy before the deadline, which doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
July 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: the highest comp pick you’d get is a 2nd and a 5th if you qualify offer snell. It’s likely with the type of season snell is having and the market for him that they’ll ask for someone like Abel and an outfield prospect like de la Cruz. the odds are less likely you draft a kid that becomes a prospect as good as Abel with those two picks. Tbh if they are gonna give up Abel and de La Cruz type prospects they are likely better off going Shane Bieber who has a year left after this year. Would have to hope cleveland falters the next week and a half though Bieber is hurt. No thanks
July 18, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said: Bieber is hurt. No thanks 1 hour ago, Shepard Wong said: Not sure you can trade top prospects for a pitcher who just got shut down with elbow pain. I know they said he doesn't need surgery but that's a pretty big dice roll to pay a high price for him unless he is back and pitching at a high level to show he's healthy before the deadline, which doesn't seem like it's going to happen. Didn’t realize he got hurt so yeah that’s not going to happen. But even with snell you are likely giving up Abel and de La Cruz type prospects. I think the price is gonna be that maybe higher. If I’m trading for a pitcher like that then i don’t want it just as a rental. I want to have at least 1.5 years of control unless they sign him or know he’s coming back. And frankly 2 months from FA i don’t see a soon to be FA who’s likely one of the best SP free agents signing that extension and I’m doubting he is making promises without testing the market
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