Harper is staying at 1B. Lots more marketable facetime on TV broadcasts there than in the outfield and it saves his elbow. Hoskins is gone, but I think they will keep Nola. I hope they trade Castellanos, but for what? They need more pitching, but also need a major-league hitter in CF rather than Rojas. If you put Marsh in CF and trade Casty, now you need both corner OF through free agency? Obviously Mitch Williams, I mean Craig Kimbrel, is gone. 

12 minutes ago, TV Guy said:

Harper is staying at 1B. Lots more marketable facetime on TV broadcasts there than in the outfield and it saves his elbow. Hoskins is gone, but I think they will keep Nola. I hope they trade Castellanos, but for what? They need more pitching, but also need a major-league hitter in CF rather than Rojas. If you put Marsh in CF and trade Casty, now you need both corner OF through free agency? Obviously Mitch Williams, I mean Craig Kimbrel, is gone. 

Not going to trade castellanos then let hoskins also walk. One of those two are going to be here next year. Frankly it’s more up to harper whether he wants to stay at first or move back to the outfield. Knowing how harper is, whatever helps the team win a title is what he’ll do. If they deal castellanos (what I’d do cause get value out of him before he really declined and after the season he had that contract is nice for another team) you can have harper platoon with Rhys at 1b, and days he doesn’t play 1st, harper plays outfield. I also wouldn’t entirely rule out if the Phillies try to get schwarber to learn first base as well. Then it gives you more options where Rhys, harper and schwarber can all play 1b. allows for DH to be Rhys or schwarber. Before laughing at schwarber playing 1b, he came up as a catcher so he’s had to switch positions before. First base is likely the only position he could play outside of LF which he is not very good at. 

No to Nola…

 

 

21 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

No to Nola…

 

 

Free agency class consists of nola, snell (31), Montgomery (31) and yamamoto (26). Yamamoto would be nice but no clue what he is at the mlb level. He could be great he also could just be a bust. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Free agency class consists of nola, snell (31), Montgomery (31) and yamamoto (26). Yamamoto would be nice but no clue what he is at the mlb level. He could be great he also could just be a bust. 

Don't need a #2 starter.  #2 starter spots going forward will become bullpen games.

14 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Don't need a #2 starter.  #2 starter spots going forward will become bullpen games.

Gonna need a no. 1 cause wheeler is about to be 34. So you aren’t gonna have either at some point. So you better have someone stepping up into that role. Also no. 2 spots in the playoffs might do that. Over 162 games that not true. Not making it through 162 games going bullpen games 4 out of 5 days. Look at the World Series past 2 years. Phillies had nola and wheeler. Astros had velander, Valdez, McCullers and Javier. This year dbacks have Kelly and gallen. Rangers have Montgomery, evoladi and scherzer. 

The Phillies didn’t use walker in the postseason, but the reason why he got the money he did was because during the regular season you have innings you have to eat up. He pitched 172.2 innings. Now imagine for 162 games you are replacing 172.2 and Nola’s 193.2 innings. That’s 366 innings to make up. You aren’t going bullpen 4 out of 5 days and if you do by the time you get to the playoffs they are going to be shot. And that’s if you even make the playoffs. Unless you have a historic bullpen like the 2022 Astros there’s not enough arms in your system or that you are gonna be able to acquire to handle 4 out of 5 days  bullpen. Heck we didn’t do that this year and I could argue there’s guys in that bullpen that werent the same by the time we got to the playoffs. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Gonna need a no. 1 cause wheeler is about to be 34. So you aren’t gonna have either at some point. So you better have someone stepping up into that role. Also no. 2 spots in the playoffs might do that. Over 162 games that not true. Not making it through 162 games going bullpen games 4 out of 5 days. Look at the World Series past 2 years. Phillies had nola and wheeler. Astros had velander, Valdez, McCullers and Javier. This year dbacks have Kelly and gallen. Rangers have Montgomery, evoladi and scherzer. 

The Phillies didn’t use walker in the postseason, but the reason why he got the money he did was because during the regular season you have innings you have to eat up. He pitched 172.2 innings. Now imagine for 162 games you are replacing 172.2 and Nola’s 193.2 innings. That’s 366 innings to make up. You aren’t going bullpen 4 out of 5 days and if you do by the time you get to the playoffs they are going to be shot. And that’s if you even make the playoffs. Heck we didn’t do that this year and I could argue there’s guys in that bullpen that werent the same by the time we got to the playoffs. 

Yeah I was only messing around but if you look at those stats I posted from reddit, I am spending money on anyone but Nola.  His arm is going to fall off within the first year or 2 max of that contract.

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

Yeah I was only messing around but if you look at those stats I posted from reddit, I am spending money on anyone but Nola.  His arm is going to fall off within the first year or 2 max of that contract.

I wouldn’t pay nola. His last start is the reason. He had 3 great ones in a row. Then reverted back to his issues all year. Not entirely his fault they lost. Bats didn’t do crap either but the air was definitely let out of that stadium with his 2nd inning and felt like at that point it was done for that game.

I think they pay him. I’d rather go a different route but it’s a bad year to be in the market for a SP. only like 4 on the market. Montgomery worries me that he might get paid and not be the same either. Snell is gonna cash in. Might have to go trade route if nola walks 

 

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Bullpen coach wasn’t able to get 20 outs! Get rid of him.  

I would prefer not to re-sign Nola because he has a lot of mileage on his arm and while he has been injury free, unfortunately he is due. With that being said, I wonder if he would take a 4/112 contract. It's a reasonable contract for the Phillies, not locked into a horrible long-term deal, and Nola gets a big raise from the 16 mil he was making this year. If him or his agent want something ridiculous like 6+ years, yeah, I thank him for his service to the organization and just move on. I also think DD will offer Nola the qualifying offer. 

55 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

I would prefer not to re-sign Nola because he has a lot of mileage on his arm and while he has been injury free, unfortunately he is due. With that being said, I wonder if he would take a 4/112 contract. It's a reasonable contract for the Phillies, not locked into a horrible long-term deal, and Nola gets a big raise from the 16 mil he was making this year. If him or his agent want something ridiculous like 6+ years, yeah, I thank him for his service to the organization and just move on. I also think DD will offer Nola the qualifying offer. 

Frankly, if that’s what it took to get him signed I think he would’ve already been signed. I think with how the market looks right now some team is going to be dumb and give him six or more years. If he gets six or more years you tell him best of luck. I think those three playoff games somebody’s going to be like we really need a starter. Let’s go after him. maybe the Baltimore orioles I could see doing that who really need a front line starter 

56 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

I would prefer not to re-sign Nola because he has a lot of mileage on his arm and while he has been injury free, unfortunately he is due. With that being said, I wonder if he would take a 4/112 contract. It's a reasonable contract for the Phillies, not locked into a horrible long-term deal, and Nola gets a big raise from the 16 mil he was making this year. If him or his agent want something ridiculous like 6+ years, yeah, I thank him for his service to the organization and just move on. I also think DD will offer Nola the qualifying offer. 

He already declined whatever our first offer was. I’m sure he wants 5-6 year deal. I’m ready to move on from him and hope one of the young guys is good enough to be a top of the rotation guy in a few years. 

 

 

They've been talking on the WIP morning show that the Mets could offer Nola a huge deal. While they could, I just don't see Nola wanting to be under the NY media microscope. I mean, I guess if they blow him away with an offer but if he thinks Philly is tough, he would be in for a rude awakening. 

Great after the fact 

53 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

They've been talking on the WIP morning show that the Mets could offer Nola a huge deal. While they could, I just don't see Nola wanting to be under the NY media microscope. I mean, I guess if they blow him away with an offer but if he thinks Philly is tough, he would be in for a rude awakening. 

Would be a Mets thing to do. And then he implodes and they owe him a ton. 

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Great after the fact 

Next year he will wait until the 3rd inning to get bull pen activity in a 0-0 game. 

Wouldn’t be shocked if Rojas is dealt due to having Crawford in the system and marsh. Would also allow harper to go back to OF with castellanos and marsh to bring back hoskins. Opens a possibility of harper also at first and they go out to acquire another OF bat. That said don’t see hoskins back however i rather have him than castellanos  

 

Really think Rojas the more and more i read the comments from the presser might be an asset they use to trade and acquire a BP piece. 

30 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Really think Rojas the more and more i read the comments from the presser might be an asset they use to trade and acquire a BP piece. 

Hope it's not for another Gregory Soto.

8 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Hope it's not for another Gregory Soto.

Soto is likely back next year. He’s arbitration eligible. I actually looked up his stats from 2021 and 2022. Those are the two years he was an all-star. His WHIP and BB were actually lower in 2023. His Ks were higher than 2022. His SO9 were on par with 2021 and better than 2022. His era/ERs was higher by 7-9 runs in 2023. But his innings were nearly identical. Pretty amazing the only area where soto had worse stats wise then his previous two years was ER/ERA

Have a feeling if that’s the case that bryce might go back to OF. And allows for them to bring back Rhys to play first. Basically would have a lineup of 

schwarber 

Turner 

harper 

rhys 

castellanos 

sott

bohm

realmuto

marsh 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Soto is likely back next year. He’s arbitration eligible. I actually looked up his stats from 2021 and 2022. Those are the two years he was an all-star. His WHIP and BB were actually lower in 2023. His Ks were higher than 2022. His SO9 were on par with 2021 and better than 2022. His era/ERs was higher by 7-9 runs in 2023. But his innings were nearly identical. Pretty amazing the only area where soto had worse stats wise then his previous two years was ER/ERA

He's wild as hell though. It seemed most of his appearances resulted in him missing the strike zone and walking people. Many times, he got out of his own jams, but it was frustrating as hell watching.