Just now, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Do you believe Jalen would be even better than he is now? Or the team for that matter? We’re 20-2 since week 10 of last year in games Jalen starts

I don’t know. I think that Doug might have been able to help him become a better passer, but he was held back due to having to deal with Reagor. Maybe the Eagles aren’t winning as many games with Doug at first, but Hurts becomes a more polished passer though he’s very good as one right now.

Dallas Sucks. That is all. 

On 1/13/2023 at 4:17 AM, EagleJoe8 said:

You didn’t look hard enough. There was definite complaining when "he who shall not be named” would use himself as a battering ram. 

Yeah I was one of them. 😂 

Live look in at Easyeagle:

52 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

It better not be our last game of the year!

On 1/14/2023 at 2:20 PM, kiwinavega said:

So, let me get this right. We have a QB who is setting all kinds of records, has lost one game starting in goodness knows how many, while being an MVP candidate and making second team all pro.

And this message board is crying about how much he runs and his injury risk?

Let me tell you - QBs that last forever like Brady and Rodgers - they are outliers. That longevity is freakish.

Hurts is in his third year, his second as a starter. What he offers is so much more than being a pocket passer. He's like Randall 2.0, the ultimate weapon, recast for today. He'll get injuries, every player does. So, enjoy him for what he is. His passing will keep getting better, but it's his running ability *matched with his passing* that makes him special.

Give the man his money this offseason. It's not our cash, right? And for what he offers, including in terms of a potentially shorter career, he's worth every penny. And if he gets injured, well, so what? Aside from wishing him to get well soon, we thank him for the electrifying memories.

It's been a wild ride this year, and a lot of that is because of Jalen. Roll with him for a while, he has earned that much.

I disagree. It's a reason why giving RBs mega contracts are a bad idea because of the shelf life of their careers. I'm not calling him a RB but if he's going to be running so much he'll end up with a short career like RBs do unless he's more careful

Giving a QB a mega contract and only having him for around 5 years is not a good thing IMO

Kicking and screaming… 😂

6 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

 

 

FYP

28 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I disagree. It's a reason why giving RBs mega contracts are a bad idea because of the shelf life of their careers. I'm not calling him a RB but if he's going to be running so much he'll end up with a short career like RBs do unless he's more careful

Giving a QB a mega contract and only having him for around 5 years is not a good thing IMO

Fair point. But what if we are only on the hook for those productive years? One mega deal, he has earned. If we don't want a second, we don't have to have it

14 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Fair point. But what if we are only on the hook for those productive years? One mega deal, he has earned. If we don't want a second, we don't have to have it

They tend to cascading effect on who you can get through FA and who you can re-sign on your own team though

Again, very fair.

16 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t know. I think that Doug might have been able to help him become a better passer, but he was held back due to having to deal with Reagor. Maybe the Eagles aren’t winning as many games with Doug at first, but Hurts becomes a more polished passer though he’s very good as one right now.

The only person that can help Jalen become a better passer is Jalen.  And he has done that -  he's improved greatly - way more than I believed he was capable of.  That came from his own desire to improve and his work ethic to get where he is.  I think he will continue to improve moving forward.  

One can possible argue they think DP would be better than the current staff at putting Jalen in a position to succeed from a game plan and play calling perspective, but it would be difficult to make that argument with the results he's had in his last season+ of work...

1 hour ago, McMVP said:

The only person that can help Jalen become a better passer is Jalen.  And he has done that -  he's improved greatly - way more than I believed he was capable of.  That came from his own desire to improve and his work ethic to get where he is.  I think he will continue to improve moving forward.  

One can possible argue they think DP would be better than the current staff at putting Jalen in a position to succeed from a game plan and play calling perspective, but it would be difficult to make that argument with the results he's had in his last season+ of work...

I do believe that Jalen has had a lot to do with his own success, but I also believe that there are coaches who can mold and develop young quarterbacks as well. I think AR has had a lot to do with the success of McNabb, Mahomes, and Favre. Grooming a young quarterback isn’t just leaving him to his own vices. It’s also understanding his strengths and weaknesses. Minimizing the exposure of his weaknesses while capitalizing on his strengths. When Sirianni was calling plays last season it did not seem like he grasped that concept and the Eagles didn’t really take off until he relinquished those duties. He’s also made it clear that WRs are his specialty. A guy like Doug understands what it takes to be a quarterback in the NFL. The Eagles back in 2016-17 raved about the quarterback room where you had Doug, Reich, DFlip, grooming Wentz, and Foles and Sudfeld all just bouncing ideas off one another. They held Carson accountable and for a time he thrived until that room fell apart. They got the best out of the player, because they were a QB friendly environment. Hurts is already surpassed the expectations of many, but there’s still room to improve. I just hope he has the right coaches around him to continue to grow and prosper. 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

I do believe that Jalen has had a lot to do with his own success, but I also believe that there are coaches who can mold and develop young quarterbacks as well. I think AR has had a lot to do with the success of McNabb, Mahomes, and Favre. Grooming a young quarterback isn’t just leaving him to his own vices. It’s also understanding his strengths and weaknesses. Minimizing the exposure of his weaknesses while capitalizing on his strengths. When Sirianni was calling plays last season it did not seem like he grasped that concept and the Eagles didn’t really take off until he relinquished those duties. He’s also made it clear that WRs are his specialty. A guy like Doug understands what it takes to be a quarterback in the NFL. The Eagles back in 2016-17 raved about the quarterback room where you had Doug, Reich, DFlip, grooming Wentz, and Foles and Sudfeld all just bouncing ideas off one another. They held Carson accountable and for a time he thrived until that room fell apart. They got the best out of the player, because they were a QB friendly environment. Hurts is already surpassed the expectations of many, but there’s still room to improve. I just hope he has the right coaches around him to continue to grow and prosper. 

Yup. If anyone gets a chance, watch the combine interview the Eagles did with Wentz. Flip led the interview, while Doug and Frank chimed in.

That was some serious QB brain trust, it sucks that it didn’t last.

32 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I do believe that Jalen has had a lot to do with his own success, but I also believe that there are coaches who can mold and develop young quarterbacks as well. I think AR has had a lot to do with the success of McNabb, Mahomes, and Favre. Grooming a young quarterback isn’t just leaving him to his own vices. It’s also understanding his strengths and weaknesses. Minimizing the exposure of his weaknesses while capitalizing on his strengths. When Sirianni was calling plays last season it did not seem like he grasped that concept and the Eagles didn’t really take off until he relinquished those duties. He’s also made it clear that WRs are his specialty. A guy like Doug understands what it takes to be a quarterback in the NFL. The Eagles back in 2016-17 raved about the quarterback room where you had Doug, Reich, DFlip, grooming Wentz, and Foles and Sudfeld all just bouncing ideas off one another. They held Carson accountable and for a time he thrived until that room fell apart. They got the best out of the player, because they were a QB friendly environment. Hurts is already surpassed the expectations of many, but there’s still room to improve. I just hope he has the right coaches around him to continue to grow and prosper. 

That's why I don't want steichen leaving, he has built his young career on being able to adapt his offense to any QB or strengths of a team. I'd like to see Hurts with at least one more year with the same OC to really strengthen Hurts abilities where he may not need to rely on the coordinator or QB coach to get him through certain situations as much. 

5 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Yup. If any gets a chance watch the combine interview the Eagles did with Wentz. Flip led the interview, while Doug and Frank chimed in.
 

That was some serious QB brain trust, it sucks that it didn’t last.

But in the end , as they say , A camel...is a horse designed by a committee. All that brain power, and such a sad result with Wentz.

I am curious where Hurts would be with that level of support. 

44 minutes ago, Traveler Vic said:

But in the end , as they say , A camel...is a horse designed by a committee. All that brain power, and such a sad result with Wentz.

I am curious where Hurts would be with that level of support. 

The Eagles have invested in the development of Jalen as well. They have given him then assets needed to develop (a quarterback coach who he knows, wide receivers who a talented, and a solid TE security blanket) also, so I can’t criticize them too much. Their results have led to a 14 win football team so far. They’re obviously doing something right, but I just wonder if they can improve on the development and understand of how to maximizing the player while lessening his exposure to injury. 

56 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

That's why I don't want steichen leaving, he has built his young career on being able to adapt his offense to any QB or strengths of a team. I'd like to see Hurts with at least one more year with the same OC to really strengthen Hurts abilities where he may not need to rely on the coordinator or QB coach to get him through certain situations as much. 

Steichen is going out the door if another team is giving him that HC job. I am hoping that in this interviews they decide he’s not quite ready to be the guy just yet. I have read there’s an outside chance if Steichen goes, Reich could become the next OC, but I don’t know how that dynamic will play out for Hurts. Reich is a guy who again understands what it take to be a quarterback in the NFL and Hurts is a guy who is willing to learn and work to get better so there’s a chance that will work. 

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

Yup. If any gets a chance watch the combine interview the Eagles did with Wentz. Flip led the interview, while Doug and Frank chimed in.
 

That was some serious QB brain trust, it sucks that it didn’t last.

Success kills a great thing sometimes. Ultimately I think Roseman and Lurie meddled way too much in Doug’s coaching staff. Personally I don’t think Howie (maybe even Lurie also) ever wants a coach to have the levels of power that Chip and AR ever had here again.in other words if Sirianni does win the bowl a time or two, we still could see the Eagles making a change at the top. 

When you think of Louisiana hot sauce, you definitely think of a QB from Texas who plays in Pennsylvania. 

 

26 minutes ago, NOTW said:

When you think of Louisiana hot sauce, you definitely think of a QB from Texas who plays in Pennsylvania. 

 

Same way when I think of puke and Illinois I think of chunky soup from mcnabb

On 1/14/2023 at 1:13 PM, CouchKing said:

What could we get for Jalen Hurts in draft picks this year?

I know it's up from a 5th rounder at the end of last year.

Trade Hurts and overpay for a 46 year old Tom Brady. That’s really what you want? 😂🤣😂

Ready to roll. 

LFG, it feels like such a long wait