13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Trade Hurts and overpay for a 46 year old Tom Brady. That’s really what you want? 😂🤣😂

I expect us to extend him at some point. Maybe during this offseason.

Others say that the Eagles may string him along with no extension before his 4th year and then franchise him in the 5th year.

Tom didn't look too terrific last night, but if you wanna kill our cap space, we could trade for Aaron Rodgers.

 

59 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

I expect us to extend him at some point. Maybe during this offseason.

Others say that the Eagles may string him along with no extension before his 4th year and then franchise him in the 5th year.

Tom didn't look too terrific last night, but if you wanna kill our cap space, we could trade for Aaron Rodgers.

 

Yeah I don’t want Tom or Rodgers at this point in their careers. If we are giving out money it might as well be to the 26 year old hitting his prime with two young receivers and a TE basically in their primes as well. I don’t see the Eagles tagging Hurts. I think he’s getting an extension , but I just don’t think it is longer than 4-6 years. 

22 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

That's why I don't want steichen leaving, he has built his young career on being able to adapt his offense to any QB or strengths of a team. I'd like to see Hurts with at least one more year with the same OC to really strengthen Hurts abilities where he may not need to rely on the coordinator or QB coach to get him through certain situations as much. 

It is not Steichens offense, it is Sirianis.  He is the coordinator.  He puts the overall gameplan together based on what the offensive coaches say.  Mostly Siriani.  But make know mistake about it, it starts with his offensive ideas.

 

14 hours ago, crazyeagle said:

It is not Steichens offense, it is Sirianis.  He is the coordinator.  He puts the overall gameplan together based on what the offensive coaches say.  Mostly Siriani.  But make know mistake about it, it starts with his offensive ideas.

 

I’m sure this is a collaborative effort but this really isn’t Sirianni’s offense. He’s used to running more of a WCO system. He’s even mentioned that in the past (Sirianni talks too much sometimes.) He’s learning and figuring this thing out too. This is all more of a college style offense and something that better fits the skill sets of Hurts than something that Sirianni is used to running in the pros. I’m guessing there’s a lot of people bouncing ideas off one another and that Sirianni has consulted a time or two with his family members also. 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’m sure this is a collaborative effort but this really isn’t Sirianni’s offense. He’s used to running more of a WCO system. Hes even mentioned that in the past (Sirianni talks too much sometimes.) He’s learning and figuring this thing out too. This is all more of a college style offense and something that better fits the skill sets of Hurts than something that Sirianni is used to running in the pros. I’m guessing there’s a lot of people bouncing ideas off one another and that Sirianni has consulted a time or two with his family members also. 

Shane also calls the plays

2 hours ago, crazyeagle said:

It is not Steichens offense, it is Sirianis.  He is the coordinator.  He puts the overall gameplan together based on what the offensive coaches say.  Mostly Siriani.  But make know mistake about it, it starts with his offensive ideas.

 

And play calling

Some of us need to stop acting like brining in one of these 30+ - 40+ Year old quarterbacks to replace Jalen is going to fix our problems. We already got our guy. You’re just going to have to accept that. 

13 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Some of us need to stop acting like brining in one of these 30+ - 40+ Year old quarterbacks to replace Jalen is going to fix our problems. We already got our guy. You’re just going to have to accept that. 

Dak seems a bit old

4 hours ago, CouchKing said:

I expect us to extend him at some point. Maybe during this offseason.

Others say that the Eagles may string him along with no extension before his 4th year and then franchise him in the 5th year.

Tom didn't look too terrific last night, but if you wanna kill our cap space, we could trade for Aaron Rodgers.

 

We get him for a way lower deal if we extend ASAP. We need to do Jalen before Lamar, before Tua, before Burrow, before Daniel Jones, before Herbert… all up for new deals this year. And the ones that wait may be extended for bigger next year… plus Lawrence, Fields, Mac. In 2 years the floor for top 10 QBs could be over 60m$ per.

Howie knows how to structure it so we can lock him up now and still drop trou in 3 years if we need to.

6 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Dak seems a bit old

He’s loosing sight. Getting a little color blind. 😂

So much for "limping into the playoffs."

 

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

So much for "limping into the playoffs."

 

It was soreness and pain management vs NY. His numbers were not good because Dickerson wandered 2 yards on a TD pass and there was no need to run. It will have been 5 weeks of recovery by game time.

14 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah I don’t want Tom or Rodgers at this point in their careers. If we are giving out money it might as well be to the 26 year old hitting his prime with two young receivers and a TE basically in their primes as well. I don’t see the Eagles tagging Hurts. I think he’s getting an extension , but I just don’t think it is longer than 4-6 years. 

 

11 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

We get him for a way lower deal if we extend ASAP. We need to do Jalen before Lamar, before Tua, before Burrow, before Daniel Jones, before Herbert… all up for new deals this year. And the ones that wait may be extended for bigger next year… plus Lawrence, Fields, Mac. In 2 years the floor for top 10 QBs could be over 60m$ per.

Howie knows how to structure it so we can lock him up now and still drop trou in 3 years if we need to.

People are crazy if they don’t think the Eagles are going to make every effort to extend Jalen this offseason.

The franchise tag is not a realistic option for us. We won’t have the cap space.

The Eagles will be looking for a 6-7 year deal with an out after 3-4 years.

 

2 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

 

People are crazy if they don’t think the Eagles are going to make every effort to extend Jalen this offseason.

The franchise tag is not a realistic option for us. We won’t have the cap space.

The Eagles will be looking for a 6-7 year deal with an out after 3-4 years.

 

Yes.

It's tough to find a good qb.

This may well turn out to be Hurts' best season, but he's shown he's good enough.

I don't see him having a huge drop off. 

Barring injuries, he'll keep the Eagles competitive. 

To move on from him is taking a huge chance, imo.

 

Random thought on Jalen (which is probably more appropriate for the off-season): I’d like to see him progress to the 4500 yard passing/500 yard rushing range next year.

I might be wrong but that’s where I see his talent leading him to with the talent we have on the team.

15 minutes ago, Thrive said:

Random thought on Jalen (which is probably more appropriate for the off-season): I’d like to see him progress to the 4500 yard passing/500 yard rushing range next year.

I might be wrong but that’s where I see his talent leading him to with the talent we have on the team.

Be careful mentioning him passing more and running less. You will provoke the masses 

10 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Be careful mentioning him passing more and running less. You will provoke the masses 

We are all still learning about how talented this young man is so I get the back and forth. To me, he confirmed my suspicion that he is actually a much more talented passer than a runner this year (playoffs obviously excluded). He’s just a highly intelligent football player that is just now discovering that he can also be very accurate. 

That’s an amazing combination that would be wasted running him into a wall every season. Plus I think the RPO portion of the offense still works with him only running for about 500 yards instead of 800.

15 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Be careful mentioning him passing more and running less. You will provoke the masses 

I don't care how he helps win games. I just don't believe one aspect is "unsustainable." 

31 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I don't care how he helps win games. I just don't believe one aspect is "unsustainable." 

Hello masses

57 minutes ago, Thrive said:

We are all still learning about how talented this young man is so I get the back and forth. To me, he confirmed my suspicion that he is actually a much more talented passer than a runner this year (playoffs obviously excluded). He’s just a highly intelligent football player that is just now discovering that he can also be very accurate. 

That’s an amazing combination that would be wasted running him into a wall every season. Plus I think the RPO portion of the offense still works with him only running for about 500 yards instead of 800.

I disagree. I think he’s a much better runner than he is a passer. But he’s an excellent, excellent runner. He’s shown to be above average to really good passing, albeit at times inconsistent. His running is almost always top notch. 

1 hour ago, Thrive said:

We are all still learning about how talented this young man is so I get the back and forth. To me, he confirmed my suspicion that he is actually a much more talented passer than a runner this year (playoffs obviously excluded). He’s just a highly intelligent football player that is just now discovering that he can also be very accurate. 

That’s an amazing combination that would be wasted running him into a wall every season. Plus I think the RPO portion of the offense still works with him only running for about 500 yards instead of 800.

I agree about football iq being extremely high....don't agree about being a better passer than runner. He is an elite runner and a good passer on a day he's on fire.  You take away the legs, he isn't nearly the passer. Not a knock. I want him to develop his passing game more 

11 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I disagree. I think he’s a much better runner than he is a passer. But he’s an excellent, excellent runner. He’s shown to be above average to really good passing, albeit at times inconsistent. His running is almost always top notch. 

 

6 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

I agree about football iq being extremely high....don't agree about being a better passer than runner. He is an elite runner and a good passer on a day he's on fire.  You take away the legs, he isn't nearly the passer. Not a knock. I want him to develop his passing game more 

We’ll see. Think people thought I was nuts earlier in the off-season when I said Hurts can be an accurate passer. The rapid growth is the key. And as I said last off-season, I don’t think he has a ceiling.

In any event, he needs to perform and win this weekend for anyone to feel comfortable with giving him the opportunity to make the jumps I think he can make next year.

10 minutes ago, Thrive said:

 

We’ll see. Think people thought I was nuts earlier in the off-season when I said Hurts can be an accurate passer. The rapid growth is the key. And as I said last off-season, I don’t think he has a ceiling.

In any event, he needs to perform and win this weekend for anyone to feel comfortable with giving him the opportunity to make the jumps I think he can make next year.

He definitely proved me wrong with his accuracy this year. I would of bet my yearly salary he woudnt hit 66.5% completion. Right now his style is Lamar's style of play, but I believe doing it smarter overall in the running. Lamar doesn't have near the attempts of other starters, but that constant threat of him taking off makes the throws he does make easier and the numbers look efficient.  I always speak about the sustainability because after a few years these styles always burn out. I think Jalen can continue to develop as a consistent passer who can punish you with his legs if you ignore him. 

Just now, Shalodeep said:

He definitely proved me wrong with his accuracy this year. I would have bet my yearly salary he woudnt hit 66.5% completion. Right now his style is Lamar's style of play, but I believe doing it smarter overall in the running. Lamar doesn't have near the attempts of other starters, but that constant threat of him taking off makes the throws he does make easier and the numbers look efficient.  I always speak about the sustainability because after a few years these styles always burn out. I think Jalen can continue to develop as a consistent passer who can punish you with his legs if you ignore him. 

Sounds right. And I think Jalen and the team would agree that, for him, his running style is not sustainable (nor is it preferable). It just is what it is. He can be too good a passer to keep running for 700-800 yards.

 

7 minutes ago, Thrive said:

Sounds right. And I think Jalen and the team would agree that, for him, his running style is not sustainable (nor is it preferable). It just is what it is. He can be too good a passer to keep running for 700-800 yards.

 

Been my argument the whole time. Prepare to be harassed for that terminology by brk lol