10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

FYP

 

29 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

 

 

The Birds are Back in the Blockbuster Sequel coming soon Feb 2023.

I am one of the biggest Foles fans not named Foles but there will be no comparison to Hurts if Hurts wins this SB.

This would be like combining the 2013 regular season with the 2017 playoffs.

The one thing Foles did have was elite clutch game performances over time. He was something like 11-2 in must win Eagles games (and the 2 NO losses were on receivers with HUGE drops)

Assuming at 6-7 after the Minshew win vs NYJ that the Eagles had to win out to make the playoffs, that's 3-0 for Hurts (they rested in week 18) and 0-1 vs Tampa.

Give him the Giants game even though it was easy button and 2 playoff games and he is 6-1 already.

If you get Randall's/McNabb's dual threat ability with Foles clutch gene without Foles bad injury luck then you have one hell of a QB.

1 hour ago, KINGnabb said:

Eagles Playoff Records Starting QB All Time Super Bowl Era

Mcnabb: 9-7 (5 NFC Championship Games/Super Bowl XXXIX) 
Foles: 4-2 (1 NFC Championship Game/Super Bowl LII)
Jaws: 4-4 (1 NFC Championship Game/Super Bowl XV)
Hurts: 2-1 (1 NFC Championship Game/Super Bowl LVII)
Cunningham: 1-4
Pete: 1-1
Garcia: 1-1
Vick: 0-1
Wentz: 0-1

 

Jalen already has one of the best Playoff Records for an Eagles Starting QB in the Super Bowl Era.   Donovan's 9 Win Playoff Record is one of the highest in NFL History.  He ranks 15th All Time.   It's going to be hard to beat but if Jalen plays the rest of the Decade, I think it's possible.   

Wow, only 3 eagles QBs had ever won  2 SB era playoff games before this year. That’s a little sad

 

edit: you’re missing Detmer in the 0-1’s

It's amazing when so many analysts will praise Hurts and then a few guys on the message board will call him terrible, move the goal posts, cherry pick stats, and find anything they can nit pick.  The guy is a winner.  Listen to the NBC Sports Philly crew discuss.  If you care to watch Jalen's PC just before that, listen to his intelligence, command of the offense, situational awareness, confidence, and constantly praising the team and not focusing on himself.

 

 

Just now, NOTW said:

It's amazing when so many analysts will praise Hurts and then a few guys on the message board will call him terrible, move the goal posts, cherry pick stats, and find anything they can nit pick.  The guy is a winner.  Listen to the NBC Sports Philly crew discuss.  If you care to watch Jalen's PC just before that, listen to his intelligence, command of the offense, situational awareness, confidence, and constantly praising the team and not focusing on himself.

 

 

So he’s perfect and we aren’t allowed any objective criticism of him? 

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So he’s perfect and we aren’t allowed any objective criticism of him? 

The word objective is really doing a lot of work in this sentence. 

Just now, jsb235 said:

The word objective is really doing a lot of work in this sentence. 

Lol. The only criticism I had this last game was his passing was sub par. But he’s a gamer, and did more than enough to win. He was great that drive he used his legs a lot to get us a TD. And he’s fantastic at not turning the ball over, which is huge. But let’s not pretend the passing game was good. Of course it was against a good D, but regardless, he wasn’t good passing the ball Sunday. 

20 hours ago, UndyTaker said:

Is it? Did he not look scared to throw at times when he had protection? This isnt a new criticism of Hurts because we have seen it before....like all of last year.

 

Not that I want to get into this pointless bickering, but there's a difference between being scared to throw the football and protecting the football. Hurts was the latter, and rightly so

20 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Lol. The only criticism I had this last game was his passing was sub par. But he’s a gamer, and did more than enough to win. He was great that drive he used his legs a lot to get us a TD. And he’s fantastic at not turning the ball over, which is huge. But let’s not pretend the passing game was good. Of course it was against a good D, but regardless, he wasn’t good passing the ball Sunday. 

I have bolded the only thing certain folks will address, and did a strikethrough on things that they will totally ignore that you said.

17 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Minshew 2 carries -2 by design. Hurts 3 carries for 2 yards on a sneak for a 1st down and 2 shots at the TD from the 1. 

5 carries for 0 yards and perfection  ( the 2 runs at the 1 got them 7 points and 45 seconds off the clock)

So you take those limited and purposeful runs out and the Eagles ran for 3.8 ypc and 147 yards against the #1 D and the #1 ypc D at 3.4 per carry.

This while the 49ers are keying on the run due to weather conditions and score.

 

The 49ers gave up 12 rushing TDs in their first 19 games. The Eagles got 3 on them.

The Eagles 148 was the 2nd most the 49ers gave up all year and #1 was vs Atlanta with 4 defensive starters out. (Bosa, Armstead, and a couple lower end guys)

The 49ers held their opponents under 80 yards rushing in 13 of 19 games, including Dallas last week.

Let me get this right: Including the playoffs, the Niners gave up 12 rushing TDs in 19 games before facing the Eagles. The Eagles scored three on them - 20% of their season total - while the Niners had the #1 rush defense in the league? And we're whining about a QB who didn't turn the ball over, meeting his primary objective in the circumstances? Freud would have a field day with some of y'all.

Some folks are rapid to point to failings in situational football and awareness  - but you don't recognise it when you see it

Hurts = great most of the year, hasn't been great since he got hurt

Does not diminish his value whatsoever considering his passing compliments the strength of this team which is running game and pressure defense.  It's okay to say he looks off and still support him going into the damn Superbowl. It's not being hateful to say something is off. It's hateful to say he sucks. See the difference? Probably not. 

1 minute ago, kiwinavega said:

Let me get this right: Including the playoffs, the Niners gave up 12 rushing TDs in 19 games before facing the Eagles. The Eagles scored three on them - 20% of their season total - while the Niners had the #1 rush defense in the league? And we're whining about a QB who didn't turn the ball over, meeting his primary objective in the circumstances? Freud would have a field day with some of y'all.

Some folks are rapid to point to failings in situational football and awareness  - but you don't recognise it when you see it

We had 4 rushing TDs

1 minute ago, Shalodeep said:

Hurts = great most of the year, hasn't been great since he got hurt

Does not diminish his value whatsoever considering his passing compliments the strength of this team which is running game and pressure defense.  It's okay to say he looks off and still support him going into the damn Superbowl. It's not being hateful to say something is off. It's hateful to say he sucks. See the difference? Probably not. 

Which brings us full circle to our concerns about his consecutive December injuries. Some will stick their head in the sand about it, but it’s pretty evident at this point.

45 minutes ago, NOTW said:

It's amazing when so many analysts will praise Hurts and then a few guys on the message board will call him terrible, move the goal posts, cherry pick stats, and find anything they can nit pick.  The guy is a winner.  Listen to the NBC Sports Philly crew discuss.  If you care to watch Jalen's PC just before that, listen to his intelligence, command of the offense, situational awareness, confidence, and constantly praising the team and not focusing on himself.

 

 

Jaws: Mistake free football is what wins in the playoffs.
Jalen protected the ball, and other players stepped up. I love American (lol) football because it is the ul;timate team sport. Every moment, every success needs one player to beat another, while everyone else does their jobs. Jalen did his job, hius teammates all did theirs. End of story.

2 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Jaws: Mistake free football is what wins in the playoffs.
Jalen protected the ball, and other players stepped up. I love American (lol) football because it is the ul;timate team sport. Every moment, every success needs one player to beat another, while everyone else does their jobs. Jalen did his job, hius teammates all did theirs. End of story.

Wish Siri could protect Hurts more 😐

16 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

We had 4 rushing TDs

Thanks - I forgot Jalen got one, too. Was just looking at the RBs. So that's 25% of all rushing TDs the Niners gave up in 19 games, as #1 rush defense, were against the Eagles. That's even more impressive to me. 

We get tied down with minutiae on this board sometimes - we're fans, it's our pleasure and our job! - but we seldom recognise the incredible balances we have on this team. Really good groupings all over both sides of the ball. The Eagles can, and do, win in many different ways. We can pass, we can rush, we can defend the pass, defend the run. We have ice-cold Jake kicking the points. We have a punter who can hit the camera wires 🙃

What I mean is we are multi-dimensional because we have gamebreakers in all phases (except punting and maybe returning). To go a bit Sirianni / Eric Cantona here: You bring your bishop, you'll find a knight waiting. You take my pawn, you give me space. And so it goes. The Eagles are simply a matchup nightmare, almost everywhere you look

18 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Thanks - I forgot Jalen got one, too. Was just looking at the RBs. So that's 25% of all rushing TDs the Niners gave up in 19 games, as #1 rush defense, were against the Eagles. That's even more impressive to me. 

We get tied down with minutiae on this board sometimes - we're fans, it's our pleasure and our job! - but we seldom recognise the incredible balances we have on this team. Really good groupings all over both sides of the ball. The Eagles can, and do, win in many different ways. We can pass, we can rush, we can defend the pass, defend the run. We have ice-cold Jake kicking the points. We have a punter who can hit the camera wires 🙃

What I mean is we are multi-dimensional because we have gamebreakers in all phases (except punting and maybe returning). To go a bit Sirianni / Eric Cantona here: You bring your bishop, you'll find a knight waiting. You take my pawn, you give me space. And so it goes. The Eagles are simply a matchup nightmare, almost everywhere you look

Couldnt on sunday.

41 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Thanks - I forgot Jalen got one, too. Was just looking at the RBs. So that's 25% of all rushing TDs the Niners gave up in 19 games, as #1 rush defense, were against the Eagles. That's even more impressive to me. 

We get tied down with minutiae on this board sometimes - we're fans, it's our pleasure and our job! - but we seldom recognise the incredible balances we have on this team. Really good groupings all over both sides of the ball. The Eagles can, and do, win in many different ways. We can pass, we can rush, we can defend the pass, defend the run. We have ice-cold Jake kicking the points. We have a punter who can hit the camera wires 🙃

What I mean is we are multi-dimensional because we have gamebreakers in all phases (except punting and maybe returning). To go a bit Sirianni / Eric Cantona here: You bring your bishop, you'll find a knight waiting. You take my pawn, you give me space. And so it goes. The Eagles are simply a matchup nightmare, almost everywhere you look

So we're going to ignore the fact that the other team had no QB and the defense tired out because of it? 🥰 fantasy land is fun

Not ignoring it at all, just using it as an example of situational football. The situation called for running down the clock and being smart with the football. I would have liked him to be more authoritative when passing, but he didn't need to be. It's a team game.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

It's amazing when so many analysts will praise Hurts

I hear a lot of BS from analysts all the time, the latest being "the Eagles dominated the 9ers", I'm like, what game did you watch??

The biggest BS I've heard all year long was how the Eagles have great RBs and personally I don't see it, without the RPO where the backs run through holes untouched the Eagles RBs are nothing to write home about, they're simply not strong runners, wink at the guys and they go down. If the Eagles had 1 or 2 strong runners they'd dominate the NFL this decade.

Then you have the BS about Slay being a shutdown corner, that deserves a Jonny Mac "you have got to be kidding me!!"

Oh, and you have this Devonta Smith the Great talk, me no think so.

 

3 minutes ago, RunItBAck said:

So we're going to ignore the fact that the other team had no QB and the defense tired out because of it? 🥰 fantasy land is fun

QBs that we knocked out of the game. And their defense was their strength and eventually we figured them out. We won this game because we are the better team. 

Not to mention the only way we were able to get into scoring position is the fumble by Josh Johnson and the 7 penalties resulting in 1st downs that the 49ers committed. 49ers did a really good job at shutting us down, however not having a QB to keep their offense on the field, and their defense keeping us on the field is ultimately what did them in.

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

So he’s perfect and we aren’t allowed any objective criticism of him? 

Strawman much?

Like I said, the moving of the goal posts and nit picking and framing stats a certain way have been very obvious.  I've been critical of him as well.  I've not liked some decisions, some throws, etc. But the man is a leader, wins games, has won over all his teammates and coaches and has his team in the SB.  I think Roob said it well in the video.

42 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Couldnt on sunday.

What makes it even better is it wasn't necessary to put 31 points up while running 148 yards 4 TDs against that SF run defense. The passing game will definitely open up against the Chiefs