June 28, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: There’s being bad, and then there’s being an abject failure. The public’s concern going into last night was about Biden’s age and competence, and he exacerbated that problem massively. He could afford a C- performance, but that was a solid F right out of the gate. I argued all along Biden was the best shot to beat Trump. But after that performance last night, he is cooked. That was his first impression, and unlike previous cycles, there won’t be another debate in a week or 2. So this image is locked in until the next debate in September, if it happens. It's a good thing the election is in November and not July or August.
June 28, 20241 yr Author Good for Trump, bad for the Democrats and maybe America. He's going downhill quickly, and he's not going to get any better. There's going to come a point where it's too late to replace him and you're stuck. Seriously though, the balls on Democrats (especially their "women") to go all in with "Trump lied!" today after they were just thoroughly exposed lying about Pop Pop's cognitive condition last night.
June 28, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It's a good thing the election is in November and not July or August. He won’t have another chance on a stage this large. What he needs now is for Trump to derail his own campaign. Which might be a safe bet. But Biden could self-sabotage again as well.
June 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: It's a good thing the election is in November and not July or August. Except there's another one of these in September. If there wasn't, I think he could probably coast until the election and just ride on the fact that Trump's going to be sentenced in a couple weeks, he's a rapist, and nearly universally hated across the country, etc. But the fact that he's got another one of these coming makes it completely unacceptable that they'd stick with him.
June 28, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It's a good thing the election is in November and not July or August. Elections aren't on a single day anymore, how many people already have their ballots and vote early? I don't know when ballots are or will be sent out, but if they're already out, then the election is every day between now and 'Election Day'.
June 28, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I think some of you guys are going overboard with the fatal wound stuff. He still has a solid chance to win, you guys are putting way too much stock in a single debate in June. This isn't Kennedy v Nixon where one debate could decide the outcome. Wasn't about a poor debate performance. It was about him showing steep mental decline. It showed that he can't effectively hold the office of the presidency. If I'm saying that, I would imagine those on the fence feel even more strongly.
June 28, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It's a good thing the election is in November and not July or August. That's the hope. That he can be better in the second debate and they can drag him over the finish line. Were he to win, I don't even think he'd be able to give a state of the union or meet with foreign leaders 2 years from now. I'll vote for the democratic nominee no matter what, but by Joe staying in the race he's taking a huge gamble that he wins because he isn't Trump. I would prefer not to take that gamble.
June 28, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: Biden's paying 5:1 lock your bet in I had him locked in at +600 back in May '21. Went to the site just now to post a screenshot and got an error saying my account has been locked. Have been on hold with customer service and they say they had to lock all accounts from restricted states due to a recent change in policy. Now have to figure out a way to cash out my open tickets and request a withdrawal. Frustrating. https://www.playmichigan.com/bovada-appears-to-have-exited-michigan-banned-residents-fromthe-site/
June 28, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: how many people already have their ballots and vote early? People already have their ballots and are already voting for the general election? Huh?
June 28, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, vikas83 said: He won’t have another chance on a stage this large. What he needs now is for Trump to derail his own campaign. Which might be a safe bet. But Biden could self-sabotage again as well. 53 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Except there's another one of these in September. If there wasn't, I think he could probably coast until the election and just ride on the fact that Trump's going to be sentenced in a couple weeks, he's a rapist, and nearly universally hated across the country, etc. But the fact that he's got another one of these coming makes it completely unacceptable that they'd stick with him. I think he can save face with a better performance in September. Guess we'll just have to wait and see because these scenarios where he drops out and gets replaced by someone handpicked to run in his place seem far-fetched to me.
June 28, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: People already have their ballots and are already voting for the general election? Huh? you've never heard of chicago?
June 28, 20241 yr Also one of the biggest things that helped Trump were the mics being cut off. The dude can’t stop himself. So instead of Biden not having to have to wax at a length that he couldn’t because Trump was acting and looking like an a-hole, we got that. I swear to F all the Dems know how to do is snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
June 28, 20241 yr 31 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I had him locked in at +600 back in May '21. Went to the site just now to post a screenshot and got an error saying my account has been locked. Have been on hold with customer service and they say they had to lock all accounts from restricted states due to a recent change in policy. Now have to figure out a way to cash out my open tickets and request a withdrawal. Frustrating. https://www.playmichigan.com/bovada-appears-to-have-exited-michigan-banned-residents-fromthe-site/ wow seriously that's a hell of a price I hope you put down at least a Grover on that ish
June 28, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: People already have their ballots and are already voting for the general election? Huh? As I said, but you left out of your quote: 1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: I don't know when ballots are or will be sent out... They will go out at some point well before "election day". I know that we got ballots in the mail a few weeks ago but I didn't open it so I don't know what it was for. I've had a lot on my personal "plate" for the past 5 years, so I didn't even know there was a debate last night until it was over. But my point is still valid, elections aren't on a single day anymore. So good or bad, being glad that the election is only in November isn't really a thing anymore.
June 28, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: wow seriously that's a hell of a price I hope you put down at least a Grover on that ish Maxed it out (bets get limited based on payout, highest was $3k), along with Trump who was at +800, and a hedge with Harris at +500. I posted about it back then in one of the threads, but it was basically reduced down to a bet on those 3 at +200 vs the field. For a while, the only conceivable threat were DeSantis and Haley. Got a hold of a manager who said my balance can be withdrawn after all bets settle but no other bets can be made. Sucks too because bovada was the only book I had left to make political prop bets. Oh well.
June 28, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: As I said, but you left out of your quote: They will go out at some point well before "election day". I know that we got ballots in the mail a few weeks ago but I didn't open it so I don't know what it was for. I've had a lot on my personal "plate" for the past 5 years, so I didn't even know there was a debate last night until it was over. But my point is still valid, elections aren't on a single day anymore. So good or bad, being glad that the election is only in November isn't really a thing anymore. I would think the percentage of people who are able to (or even would) vote before September is less than 0.1%.
June 28, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: As I said, but you left out of your quote: They will go out at some point well before "election day". I know that we got ballots in the mail a few weeks ago but I didn't open it so I don't know what it was for. I've had a lot on my personal "plate" for the past 5 years, so I didn't even know there was a debate last night until it was over. But my point is still valid, elections aren't on a single day anymore. So good or bad, being glad that the election is only in November isn't really a thing anymore. They are saying September. So they need to make a switch before or at the convention if they are going to. Sounds like he's staying in and going down with the ship.
June 28, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I would think the percentage of people who are able to (or even would) vote before September is less than 0.1%. I don't know about September, is that when the ballots go out? Like I said, I don't know when they go out. But a quick search indicates that over 100 Million voted early in 2020. Covid played a big part in that, I'm sure (I'm positive). But in 2022's mid-term: Quote Almost half (47.1%) of all voters voted early. While this was 20.4 percentage points lower than the early voting rate in 2020, it was 9.3 percentage points higher than the early voting rate in 2018. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/05/high-registration-and-early-voting-in-2022-midterm-elections.html So my point is, 'election day' as a single event, is only a part of an election with regard to when the votes are cast.
June 28, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: They are saying September. So they need to make a switch before or at the convention if they are going to. Sounds like he's staying in and going down with the ship. If there's a 'they' that want him gone and 'they' have any 'behind the curtain' power, 'they' could just get the 25th Amendment invoked due to mental incapacity or something like that... though I don't know if that would be enough to get him removed as the nominee to free up the delegates to vote for someone else. I don't know what that process would require.
June 28, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: wow seriously that's a hell of a price I hope you put down at least a Grover on that ish Still can't log in with a VPN but was able to see the current odds
June 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: That's the hope. That he can be better in the second debate and they can drag him over the finish line. Were he to win, I don't even think he'd be able to give a state of the union or meet with foreign leaders 2 years from now. I'll vote for the democratic nominee no matter what, but by Joe staying in the race he's taking a huge gamble that he wins because he isn't Trump. I would prefer not to take that gamble. He seems to do OK when there is a teleprompter. But he also seems incapable of thinking and speaking extemporaneously.
June 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: I think he can save face with a better performance in September. Guess we'll just have to wait and see because these scenarios where he drops out and gets replaced by someone handpicked to run in his place seem far-fetched to me. Will he get to debate in September? I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump cancels that debate. He’s already up. Biden already embarrassed himself. Why give Biden a chance to redeem himself?
June 28, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: That doesnt answer my question the woman is a JD so she is not an idiot. Hell california thought she was too hard on criminals She sucked her way to the top. Watch the GT debate video destroying her record as DA. She is an assclown who should never run this country. He needs to replace her. Lots of better options.
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