2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

The incidence of voter fraud will be so low as to be statistically insignificant, the voter ID thing is a blunt attempt to disenfranchise thousands of legitimate voters and it will disproportionately affect poor and minority voters who traditionally don't hold a passport or can't afford to renew a drivers license. 

The Republicans know the last bit because the UK Conservative government brought in the exact same legislation for the exact same non existent problem a couple of years ago and that's exactly what happened. 

It's the opposite of democracy. 

 

Wah

ever the victim

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

 

 

Chilling to think it could actually happen.  Wonder what my groceries and gas will cost then?  

36 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Wah

ever the victim

This is literally the dumbest post I've ever read on here, what does this even mean in the context of what I posted? How can this be your argument? 

17 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

This is literally the dumbest post I've ever read on here, what does this even mean in the context of what I posted? How can this be your argument? 

Your entire whine is an appeal to emotion. If someone is so useless they cant afford a license renewal (seems almost impossible) then i dont want them in the discussion as to national policy 

15 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Your entire whine is an appeal to emotion. If someone is so useless they cant afford a license renewal (seems almost impossible) then i dont want them in the discussion as to national policy 

I get that, but what are you gonna do to keep states from shutting down DMV offices in areas to suppress vote?

Far Left wins in France.  These overseas happenings do tend to provide tailwinds to their counterparts stateside. And ya'll were laughing at the thought of the Far Left taking power just last week.

2 hours ago, paco said:

I always mix scenes in my head from Abyss with ones from Leviathan, and I really shouldn't

I don't think I've seen Leviathan, or if I did I don't remember it... maybe it put me to sleep too lol. 

As for The Abyss, to this day I've never gone back to watch the rest of the movie, just out of principal... lol

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

 an appeal to emotion.

This only marks the 150th time I've seen TJ whine about someone's "appeal to emotion"

1 hour ago, Bill said:

I get that, but what are you gonna do to keep states from shutting down DMV offices in areas to suppress vote?

Dmv has a function that really has nothing to do with elections

8 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said:

https://mfbc.us/m/mhvdznp

George Floyd

Red herring

Hamoss

Trumpbot

my 401k

My bleached butthole

smoothbrain

emotional children

the other Miller case

Pizzagate

Open borders

Leftist Institutions 

One-term president

Two-state solution

Epstein Island

 

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The abyss

 

 

 

Just now, The_Omega said:

 

 

Generally incumbents don’t face competition in a primary fwiw

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Dmv has a function that really has nothing to do with elections

Do you see the connection there?

You know, when you want to require IDs to vote?
 

And the DMV is pretty much where it’s at in terms of obtaining an ID?

 

 

3 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Far Left wins in France.  These overseas happenings do tend to provide tailwinds to their counterparts stateside. And ya'll were laughing at the thought of the Far Left taking power just last week.

Bonkers. They want to implement 90% taxes on any income above €400k.

Yeah that is going to end well and really incentivise working hard, innovating and risk taking in their economy....

5 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

 

 

Not if you enjoy presidential immunity. Then it's just an official act.

48 minutes ago, Bill said:

Do you see the connection there?

You know, when you want to require IDs to vote?
 

And the DMV is pretty much where it’s at in terms of obtaining an ID?

Passports are by mail.

and yes i grasp the argument but its not hard to get to a dmv every few years. 

38 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Passports are by mail.

and yes i grasp the argument but its not hard to get to a dmv every few years. 

The wait time for a passport is like over a year. 
 

Also for some people, yeah, it is actually hard to get to a DMV. My grandfather was confined to a wheelchair and couldn’t drive. I had to take him to the DMV so he could get his ID. If he didn’t have me then what could he have done? Also you have some lower south states closing DMVs in areas with a black demographic. 
 

I get that leftists tend to go overboard, but sometimes you gotta zoom out. 

2 minutes ago, Bill said:

The wait time for a passport is like over a year. 
 

Also for some people, yeah, it is actually hard to get to a DMV. My grandfather was confined to a wheelchair and couldn’t drive. I had to take him to the DMV so he could get his ID. If he didn’t have me then what could he have done? Also you have some lower south states closing DMVs in areas with a black demographic. 
 

I get that leftists tend to go overboard, but sometimes you gotta zoom out. 

Where are you getting a passport that takes over a year? I'm not arguing you overall point, I've just never seen a passport take over a year. Even in 2021 I only waited 2 months.

7 minutes ago, Bill said:

The wait time for a passport is like over a year. 
 

Also for some people, yeah, it is actually hard to get to a DMV. My grandfather was confined to a wheelchair and couldn’t drive. I had to take him to the DMV so he could get his ID. If he didn’t have me then what could he have done? Also you have some lower south states closing DMVs in areas with a black demographic. 
 

I get that leftists tend to go overboard, but sometimes you gotta zoom out. 

We just renewed ours and applied for ones for the kids. Took 3 weeks for mine and the kids, 4 weeks for my wife's.

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Passports are by mail.

and yes i grasp the argument but its not hard to get to a dmv every few years. 

If we can send billions to Ukraine we can afford to give every American who wants one an ID. Even if that means mobile units that go to lower income communities. 

It's such BS when people say it's an issue because I don't know how anyone can survive without one. How do they buy alcohol, cigarettes, put money in a bank, sign up for an account to deposit their pay or government assistance, travel, buy decongestant, get a hotel room, etc? 

IDs should be required to vote and if everyone has one then the GOP can shut up afterwards. 

24 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Where are you getting a passport that takes over a year? I'm not arguing you overall point, I've just never seen a passport take over a year. Even in 2021 I only waited 2 months.

Bill sent his headshot in by stagecoach

10 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How do they buy alcohol, cigarettes, put money in a bank, sign up for an account to deposit their pay or government assistance, travel, buy decongestant, get a hotel room, etc? 

They live in poverty bro, they can't afford or have money to do any of this 😜