July 22, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: At the end of the day, you're arguing about candidates who will both do largely the same things when they're in power. Neither will achieve a toot on a tin whistle with regards to reducing inequality between the richest and poorest in society, and to be fair they don't have to as long as they can continue to convince enough rubes that it's foreigners and Woke that are responsible for the decline of US industry and infrastructure since the Reagan era come election time. Trump will likely do something catastrophic around climate, but lets not pretend either will commit America as leader of the free world to take the level of action needed to actually change the trajectory in any meaningful sense, so it's likely just a question of whether it's your great grandchildren or great great grandchildren who are fighting wars for the ever decreasing strips of liveable land once the Arctic methane seeps go. So yeah, pick Kamala, pick Trump, it really hasn't made any difference for years, rich folks, lobbyists for foreign states and corporations haven't spent billions upon billions of campaign and advertising dollars on congressional and presidential elections the last 45 years getting these clowns elected to help the likes of you. They're a distraction, Maggie Simpson's steering wheel. The only path to solving climate change is through engineering, and we're on a pretty solid path there. Whether we like it or not China and India are the ones who need changing. We've done a lot domestically to try and reduce economic impacts, but we're a drop in the bucket compared to emissions from Asia. Income inequality would be nice to solve, but any sort of government solutions are going to be ham-fisted when whatever "solution" to whatever problem inequality presents is going to be a generational one. A second Trump administration isn't going to be kept within sane parameters by a relatively competent cabinet with enough sane and capable bodies to blunt the damage that could be done. A second Trump presidency may well represent a threat to the Republic. Whining that there's no difference between a Trump presidency and that of Kamala or some other competent adult is head in the sand ignorance.
July 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: Leaving NATO is the biggest scare story of them all, he'll never do it, he'll just let Dems scaremonger over it and go 'see they were lying to ya'. End of the day he's got most of Europe committed to upping their defense spending which was his ultimate goal and leaving NATO would risk those dollars being spent domestically rather than on American weapons. You're whistling past the graveyard. He'll abandon Ukraine and continue to pull us out of NATO.
July 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: The alternatives aren't solely This crap or Socialism, Eisenhower was perfectly comfortable with high marginal tax rates and help for the poorest in society and he wasn't a socialist in any sense of the word. That's the problem with US politics in a nutshell, we've moved the supposed center ground so far to the right that the policies of guys like Nixon look like pinko nonsense, we think American society has always been a survival of the fittest, devil take the hindmost Randian fantasy and it's nonsense. Someone working 40 hours a week in any sort of job should be able to maintain a roof over their head and a standard of living above basic subsistence, that shouldn't be a controversial view, nor should it be considered Socialism. This idea that the average earner can provide for a family on their own is pure fantasy. For a brief period in the US following WWII when every other modern economy was digging out from the wreckage, this sort of living could have been had for most able bodied men, but for the vast majority of humanity's existence we had multiple wage earners in the home and multiple generations living together in cramped living spaces.
July 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: I dunno paper straws are so awful i may have to rethink this vote I don't use straws at all, but yeah paper straws do suck. I don't understand why it's standard practice at a restaurant to have a straw for every non-beer drink that's put on the table (unless you're a child). Just drink from a glass.
July 22, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Youre both wrong. You literally wrote it in your post, don't play it off. Thinking Biden dropped out for any other reason besides the DNC pushing his wheelchair off a cliff is hilariously stupid. You don’t get it. It doesn’t matter. It Is for the benefit of the country no matter the reason in Biden’s mind.
July 22, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, Paul852 said: Drive around on a golf cart to get around? You must not have been paying attention. Better than a Golf Cart. We drive an EV. (The club house is less than a 5 minute walk, so if weather is good, we tend not to drive)
July 22, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't use straws at all, but yeah paper straws do suck. I don't understand why it's standard practice at a restaurant to have a straw for every non-beer drink that's put on the table (unless you're a child). Just drink from a glass. At WAWA they have cups that you can drink from without a straw so the issue is moot.
July 22, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't use straws at all, but yeah paper straws do suck. I don't understand why it's standard practice at a restaurant to have a straw for every non-beer drink that's put on the table (unless you're a child). Just drink from a glass. I'd rather not drink from a glass that has been used by hundreds or thousands of people. No matter how many times it has been washed. I'll take a straw with my Coke Zero.
July 22, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: That's what Trumps attempted assassin donated to right?
July 22, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: I'd rather not drink from a glass that has been used by hundreds or thousands of people. No matter how many times it has been washed. I'll take a straw with my Coke Zero. if the germs are on the rim of the glass, they are inside it too.
July 22, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: That's what Trumps attempted assassin donated to right? Correct, in 2021, when he was 17, before he registered as a Republican to vote in the midterms.
July 22, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I'd rather not drink from a glass that has been used by hundreds or thousands of people. No matter how many times it has been washed. I'll take a straw with my Coke Zero. The dishwashers at restaurants are pretty diesel, and at the bar if they have an old fashioned cleaning apparatus one of them is a heavy duty sanitizer. The glass you get there is likely much cleaner than in your cabinet. Or stop eating at poor people restaurants 🤣
July 22, 20241 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: The dishwashers at restaurants are pretty diesel, and at the bar if they have an old fashioned cleaning apparatus one of them is a heavy duty sanitizer. The glass you get there is likely much cleaner than in your cabinet. Or stop eating at poor people restaurants 🤣 and stop drinking coke zero.
July 22, 20241 yr There's a lesson in this whole thing for Republicans. It's really not that hard to move on from a bad candidate. You could've done it in 2021 and by now even the hardcore MAGA would've put it past them. Republicans are in a cult but if Trump would've been out of the picture and the deprogramming from right wing media would've taken place, they would've forgotten about how much they cared (much like the entire Republican Party forgot that they all loved Bush, McCain, Romney, etc. the second Trump told them to).
July 22, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: if the germs are on the rim of the glass, they are inside it too. You're no fun at parties I bet.
July 22, 20241 yr Harris has sounded stupid and rambling in many speeches and interviews, she's been mocked for years for it. Maybe it's trying to speak impromptu instead of prepared. It's not like she always says moronic things in her content, it's just her forming of sentences and phrasing, or explaining things like she's talking to kindergartners. But, none of that matters when Trump is a raving lunatic and says something stupid every day, and Biden was an old man with a stutter and mental decline. She did very well in her VP debate with Pence and has other speech and interview examples where she's much better. So with coaching and preparation she can maybe move past the gaffes of her past. Going after her for past silliness in speeches won't work when Trump is worse and says crazy things every time he speaks.
July 22, 20241 yr It is pretty clear that young folk and women, were not very happy with old Joe as the candidate. Thankfully, they see Trump as the same.
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