Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

RFK Jr voters are the closest thing we have to "undecideds" and I think he had been bleeding off potential blue voters at a higher rate than he was with red voters (especially post-assassination attempt).

I've seen no evidence of this.

Who invited the MAGA mall cop to the circle jerk?  

2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Who invited the MAGA mall cop to the circle jerk?  

cvon is inclusive and diverse. 

 

in other words, he's a dei hire. 

3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I've seen no evidence of this.

You can see his vote share drop post-shooting and maybe now again after Biden dropped out. Not direct evidence, but that's what I'm inferring is the reason.

19 minutes ago, paco said:

 

I remember talking about this particular moment in this episode with my AP Calculus BC class the day after it first aired.

 

Man I'm getting to be old as F.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You can see his vote share drop post-shooting and maybe now again after Biden dropped out. 

I'm sure it'll drop more with Harris in, but I have a very hard time believing his share has ever pulled more from the Dems than from Trump.  And by the election, just like every other 3rd party candidate, he'll be sitting at around 1%.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

This is critical for Harris' chances.

RFK Jr voters are the closest thing we have to "undecideds" and I think he had been bleeding off potential blue voters at a higher rate than he was with red voters (especially post-assassination attempt). But if we continue to see his vote share drop now that Harris is in the race, then maybe she's been able to reverse that trend and square things up a bit.

Like a lot of the Gary Johnson responders in 2016, I expect a good chunk of the Kennedy poll responses are not actually going to cast a ballot in November. We like to think independent candidates are a spoiler for one side or the other, but many times they are getting numbers from the fringe that is neither blue nor red.

Serious question: Who are these RFK Jr. voters? I'd like to see a demographic. They must be the weirdest people in the country.

12 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You really showed her!

The spelling emphasized that she was a nobody, so Kamala was defeated by a nobody.

9 minutes ago, NothingClever said:

I remember talking about this particular moment in this episode with my AP Calculus BC class the day after it first aired.

 

Man I'm getting to be old as F.

I remember when we use to have those TI graphing calculators to graph out problems in Calc.  Once we had an assignment to then draw our assigned problem first on the calculator and then on a sheet for the overhead projector as homework.

 

I had graphing software on my IBM 386 ps2 (having a PC put me in the minority back then) and an color ink jet printer (high tech back then), so instead of using markers to hand draw it I printed out a perfect diagram.  So yeah, this hits home.   

1 minute ago, toolg said:

Like a lot of the Gary Johnson responders in 2016, I expect a good chunk of the Kennedy poll responses are not actually going to cast a ballot in November. We like to think independent candidates are a spoiler for one side or the other, but many times they are getting numbers from the fringe that is neither blue nor red.

Serious question: Who are these RFK Jr. voters? I'd like to see a demographic. They must be the weirdest people in the country.

The problem for 3rd party in this day and age is that one mistake can sink them because they don't generate enough headlines to counter it.  Gary Johnson was buried for his Aleppo comment, meanwhile there's absolutely no way Trump knew what Aleppo was either.  But it didn't matter because Johnson made that one gaffe and that's all anyone knew about him.  He couldn't chase it out of the headlines because they never covered his campaign.  With RFK, he's a Kennedy, he has a brain worm and he's anti-vax.  That's pretty much the only things anyone will ever know about him.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

The problem for 3rd party in this day and age is that one mistake can sink them because they don't generate enough headlines to counter it.  Gary Johnson was buried for his Aleppo comment, meanwhile there's absolutely no way Trump knew what Aleppo was either.  But it didn't matter because Johnson made that one gaffe and that's all anyone knew about him.  He couldn't chase it out of the headlines because they never covered his campaign.  With RFK, he's a Kennedy, he has a brain worm and he's anti-vax.  That's pretty much the only things anyone will ever know about him.

Wasn't he also unable to name one world leader?

4 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

The spelling emphasized that she was a nobody, so Kamala was defeated by a nobody.

The "Kamala flopped in the 2020 primary" talking point is incredibly weak.  Especially since Biden lost in 2 other primaries over his career, got no delegates in either, and then after being VP, he beat Trump's ass.

Is there another libertarian candidate with bad hair and a VP candidate named after a cartoon character I should look into?

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

Wasn't he also unable to name one world leader?

Who?  Johnson or Trump?  The only gaffe I remember Johnson making was the Aleppo thing.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

I remember when we use to have those TI graphing calculators and we had an assignment to then draw our assigned problem first on the calculator and then on a sheet for the overhead projector as homework.

 

I had graphing software on my IBM ps2 (386) and an color ink jet printer (high tech back then), so instead of using markers to hand draw it I printed out a perfect diagram.  So yeah, this hits home.   

My school got their first graphing calculators the year that I took AP Calc (88-89, I was in 10th grade)- they purchased 5 TI-81 calculators to share amongst all of the teachers in the building, and we didn't even have a functioning computer at home in those days so every graph I made pre-college was hand drawn with no calculator assistance.

We did have overhead projectors though 😏. It's been about 10 years or so since we got rid of those.

I also used one of those old-school mimeograph machines to make copies during my student teaching, not because it was the current technology, but because my co-op teacher was very old school and kept the school's mimeograph machine when they were getting rid of it. I loved the smell every time I made a handout for my classes.

I never understood why someone on the forum would have Couchking as their name. JD has been here the whole time.

46 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

She was literally the VP

So what did I say that was untrue?

Shes never made it through a primary, hasn't received a single vote, and was handpicked as the nominee by the party elite.

9 minutes ago, NothingClever said:

My school got their first graphing calculators the year that I took AP Calc (88-89, I was in 10th grade)- they purchased 5 TI-81 calculators to share amongst all of the teachers in the building, 

Your school actually bought them? My school didn't have any so I had to go out and purchase one on my own. My parents balked at the price and refused so I had to sink my own money. Working part-time $5/hour, that was like 2 weeks pay!

Just now, toolg said:

Your school actually bought them? My school didn't have any so I had to go out and purchase one on my own. My parents balked at the price and refused so I had to sink my own money. Working part-time $5/hour, that was like 2 weeks pay!

I think we are a bit younger and it sounds like they had 5 total to share where as they were cheaper for us kids in the early to mid 90s and we had to buy ours.

41 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

You have to admit dropping out of the debate is an historically poosay move.  I can't think of anything a bigger poosay move ever.  Can you?

Biden dropped out of the next debate, and the whole damn race.  He's a poosay quitter.

Kamala will probably want to retire too after the debate.

24 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I'm sure it'll drop more with Harris in, but I have a very hard time believing his share has ever pulled more from the Dems than from Trump.  And by the election, just like every other 3rd party candidate, he'll be sitting at around 1%.

I highly doubt that. I think he'll end up just north of Johnson's numbers.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Biden dropped out of the next debate, and the whole damn race.  He's a poosay quitter.

Kamala will probably want to retire too after the debate.

still going on about biden? 

23 minutes ago, toolg said:

Like a lot of the Gary Johnson responders in 2016, I expect a good chunk of the Kennedy poll responses are not actually going to cast a ballot in November. We like to think independent candidates are a spoiler for one side or the other, but many times they are getting numbers from the fringe that is neither blue nor red.

Serious question: Who are these RFK Jr. voters? I'd like to see a demographic. They must be the weirdest people in the country.

They represent the fringes of both ends of the spectrum. Horse shoe theory. Anti-vaxxers and limited government types.

14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Who?  Johnson or Trump?  The only gaffe I remember Johnson making was the Aleppo thing.

Nah, I swear he was asked to name a world leader he liked and he couldn't do it (probably because he didn't really know any).

56 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

I agree with Obama who reportedly stated that Kamala is a Marxist fraud. I want to move on to what could be unburdened by her. I don't like her. So, once again, a crappy choice.