July 26, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Toastrel said: But, but, that's not what you said earlier. Correct - although it was consistent with what I said earlier. Obama wanted to see if Kamala polled high enough. He was one of the last politicians to fall into line.
July 26, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, toolg said: This is what you fail to understand: Democrats voted for an administration in the primary. Not a cult leader. Biden steps down, Harris is the next up. Riiight
July 26, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: FYP. I'm concerned you think Trump is smarter than Harris. From a distance, neither one looks very bright to me. The pragmatist in me has the track records of two recent administrations and what conditions in the country were like under each. The Biden-Harris leadership team performed woefully worse than the Trump Pence leadership team with regard to the economy, the border, and all foreign affairs. Nobody has to like it, but it's true.
July 26, 20241 yr Just now, PoconoDon said: From a distance, neither one looks very bright to me. The pragmatist in me has the track records of two recent administrations and what conditions in the country were like under each. The Biden-Harris leadership team performed woefully worse than the Trump Pence leadership team with regard to the economy, the border, and all foreign affairs. Nobody has to like it, but it's true. Again, you're implying that you think Trump is smarter.
July 26, 20241 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Again, you're implying that you think Trump is smarter. No, I'm not. He 's not smarter, just luckier.
July 26, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: i said it the other day...might as well say it again. non-dems are the only people i've seen being upset about kamala getting the nomination. I agree and have said the same thing, though there are some far left Dems out there that are not all that happy with how it went down, but at the same time wish they would have had a chance to vote in a primary. The far left pro Palestinian crowd was never going to vote for Biden. They haven’t written off Harris yet, but unless she totally cuts off support for Israel, most won’t vote for her either. They won’t vote for Trump either, but I think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Foe the most part though, I believe the Dems are as United as ever You know, until all the fake enthusiasm dies down.
July 26, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Again, you're implying that you think Trump is smarter. It's hard for dumb people to assess intelligence.
July 26, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: From a distance, neither one looks very bright to me. The pragmatist in me has the track records of two recent administrations and what conditions in the country were like under each. The Biden-Harris leadership team performed woefully worse than the Trump Pence leadership team with regard to the economy, the border, and all foreign affairs. Nobody has to like it, but it's true. ^NotATrumpSupporter
July 26, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Ok, that has got to be fake. 16 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: wait, is this real? Sadly, it is fake But it looks like he really may have F'd the couch
July 26, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, xBMTx said: It's hard for dumb people to assess intelligence. What leads you to believe Kamala is intelligent at all?
July 26, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I agree and have said the same thing, though there are some far left Dems out there that are not all that happy with how it went down, but at the same time wish they would have had a chance to vote in a primary. The far left pro Palestinian crowd was never going to vote for Biden. They haven’t written off Harris yet, but unless she totally cuts off support for Israel, most won’t vote for her either. They won’t vote for Trump either, but I think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Foe the most part though, I believe the Dems are as United as ever You know, until all the fake enthusiasm dies down. Kamala’s husband being Jewish is kind of a wild card. Because even if she does come off as less supportive of Israel than Biden, it’s a little far-fetched to say she’s anti-Semitic. So anti-Semitic she married a Jew…
July 26, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: The Biden-Harris leadership team performed woefully worse than the Trump Pence leadership team with regard to the economy Laughable
July 26, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I agree and have said the same thing, though there are some far left Dems out there that are not all that happy with how it went down, but at the same time wish they would have had a chance to vote in a primary. The far left pro Palestinian crowd was never going to vote for Biden. They haven’t written off Harris yet, but unless she totally cuts off support for Israel, most won’t vote for her either. They won’t vote for Trump either, but I think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Foe the most part though, I believe the Dems are as United as ever You know, until all the fake enthusiasm dies down. I prefer to call it alternative enthusiasm.
July 26, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Laughable I was gonna press him on what specific metrics he's using to determine the economy is so much worse now than under Trump but I have a good feeling I know what the answer would be: BuT iNfLaTiOn iS sKy HiGh!
July 26, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, pisceschica said: Damn, think how many Trump flags that $380 could have bought.
July 26, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Riiight Really. It's an incumbent election for Democrats; ie., a referendum of the current administration. Biden polled over 85% so it is clear party voters want to stay the course. There is no binding law that says Biden must run because he won the primary. He can choose to step down. It is up to the party to choose the candidate. For the vast majority of the country's history the party conventions chose the Presidential candidates. It wasn't until the 1970s that the primary had any stake.
July 26, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Lies. They're down from his own record high, he is the GOAT in terms of illegal entries, and the record will never be broken. The Border Patrol reported 83k encounters in June. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-june-2024-monthly-update In Jan '21 it was 75k. Nom Nom Nom est up those lies. They're so desperate to cover their tracks of failure. This table is about as effective as comparing apples to fish. Read the note that says that "Beginning in March 2020, totals include apprehensions AND expulsions, where before that they include apprehensions ONLY". I was curious, so I did a little research comparing the numbers of apprehensions and expulsions annually from 2000 to 2019, just to see how insignificant the number of expulsions was that they decided to roll this into the apprehensions data. Imagine my surprise when I found that in 13 of those 20 years, the number of expulsions was LARGER than the number of apprehensions, sometimes almost double, and always even in the lowest years for expulsions at least 75% of the number of apprehensions. This means that every data point in this graph prior to March 2020 should be multiplied by approximately 1.75 to 2.5 if we wanted this graph to measure "apples to apples". I picked one example month from before and after March 2020. They are May 2019 and December 2023. In May 2019, there were 132,856 apprehensions and in December 2023, there were 249,735 total apprehensions and expulsions, A RECORD HIGH!!! What this graph doesn't tell you is that there were 144,000 expulsions in May 2019, meaning that if the data prior to March 2020 were measuring the same thing as the data after March 2020, then this graph would show that number to be 272,856. Sometimes graphs lie in this way (especially when they use 2 different statistics for measurement on the vertical axis). I do know for certain that 272,856>249,735, so was December 2023 really the record?
July 26, 20241 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: I was gonna press him on what specific metrics he's using to determine the economy is so much worse now than under Trump but I have a good feeling I know what the answer would be: BuT iNfLaTiOn iS sKy HiGh! It's how you know he's just a Trump fanboy who's playing the "not a Trump supporter" card. You have to be playing pretend to think the guy who took Obama's economy and stayed on the exact same course for 3 years (only for it all to collapse on him in the last year) did a better job than the guy who navigated a soft landing after facing the ripple effects of a global supply chain shut down, global inflation, etc, and who's led our economy to become the post-Covid envy of the world. Biden's had it much harder from a global economy standpoint for the duration of his term and he's absolutely nailed it. Trump sat back and enjoyed the ride until it all fell out from under him. The only way you could even make the argument he's making is if you were deep in the cult.
July 26, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, xBMTx said: It's hard for dumb people to assess intelligence. 15 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: What leads you to believe Kamala is intelligent at all? Exhibit A
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