July 28, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, lynched1 said: JFC Jr. knows he should be posting things that hurt Kamala, right?
July 28, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: The episode when Nate Bargatze hosted was great. If you watch one episode of the last couple years, watch that one. This was hilarious.
July 28, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, lynched1 said: I'm not here to convince you of anything. Live in whatever version of reality you care to. Nobody will care in 100 years Doomed to repeat history. You could be the poster thing for failing to learn.
July 28, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, Procus said: I see Harris as the most dangerous presidential candidate in at least modern American history. She is perceived as feckless by our adversaries, who would be sure to test her. She is also very far to the left and would move the trajectory of our nation in that direction which would hurt us economically, and I believe on a social level as well. It's shocking to see how the Dem party moved to the far left after the very successful Clinton centrist years. When Trump was prez, the international relations front was relatively quiet. The noise was coming from his mouth. All in all, not a bad tradeoff. I see a scared little cuck who believes everything and anything spewed by talking heads who prefer lies to reality.
July 28, 20241 yr Trump also insisted that he had actually known military life. In a separate conversation he said, "I always thought I was in the military." He said that in prep school he received more military training than most actual soldiers did, and he had been required to live under the command of men such as Ted Dobias who had been real officers and soldiers. "I felt like I was in the military in a true sense," added Trump, "because I dealt with the people."
July 28, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Trump also insisted that he had actually known military life. In a separate conversation he said, "I always thought I was in the military." He said that in prep school he received more military training than most actual soldiers did, and he had been required to live under the command of men such as Ted Dobias who had been real officers and soldiers. "I felt like I was in the military in a true sense," added Trump, "because I dealt with the people." This is exactly why the draft is BS. If we need to force our citizens to fight in a war, then it better be so grave that every able bodied person is drafted. No BS deferments.
July 28, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: Well, not surprisingly your math is very wrong. You haven't considered all of the factors like my beginning balance and how long they were already in repayment for. Or that I paid off 2 of my other student loans, or that I mentioned that my wife finished paying hers off. You said a $36k loan being paid off over 20 years was holding you back from doing "many many things" My math based on the facts you gave is correct. Yes, when you pay off loans you gain financial flexibility. Breaking news alert there. Paying off a number of loans then claiming the one that was forgiven has unlocked great financial headwinds for you is misleading.
July 28, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, DBW said: I had loans of about $30K when I graduated in 2001, my initial payment at that time were $380/month with like a 6-7% interest rate. As a young adult living with mom and dad and a full time job, I barely made ends meet. In 2008ish when the market crashed and the entire country needed help, the govt had a loan program that cut my interest to less than 3%. My payments dropped to $140 a month and I finally moved out on my own. so I can attest to the fact that loans can be crippling and hold back plenty of people whether you have $30K or $300K in debt. jonsnow knows nothing Nowhere in my statement did I say that being debt laden isn't crippling financially. What I stated was that the financial impact of paying off a $36k loan does not translate into being able to make the kinds of major capital expenses he listed on their own. His argument is about how great getting a $36k loan forgiven is (of course) and trying to illustrate why Trump - being a very rational and responsible leader that we all know him to be and totally not an idiot who would reflexively "undo" everything Biden did out of a sense grievance - would never lay that debt upon him, a loyal lemming.
July 28, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: You said a $36k loan being paid off over 20 years was holding you back from doing "many many things" My math based on the facts you gave is correct. Yes, when you pay off loans you gain financial flexibility. Breaking news alert there. Paying off a number of loans then claiming the one that was forgiven has unlocked great financial headwinds for you is misleading. oh man. the reading got you again. lol.
July 28, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: My wife finished paying off the rest of her student loans shortly after mine were forgiven. I had about 36k forgiven. Since then we have been able to put in a new HVAC system for our house. We took a home equity loan to build an oversized 2 car, 2 story garage. Furnished the finished side of our basement (which was the goal of the new HVAC and Garage storage area to free up more living space in our house for the kids). And 1 month ago finally paved our driveway (after living her for about 10 years). Tons of money spent, big quality of life improvement, major equity built. None of it was possible with my hefty student loan payment that would have been around for probably another 20 years. In addition to that, we were finally about to build a savings account and will continue to be able to draw from that for more future projects, vacations, etc. There will be so many people in our situation where the loans are holding them back from taking some major next steps in life, or doing major projects, or whatever... The govt money wont be wasted. These people will pour all of that and more back in to the economy. The money we have spent is roughly double what we owed on my loans. Im not saying everyone should get their loans forgiven. However, its a damn good investment considering the amount of money that can and will flood back in to our economy. HE: The economy is so terrible because of the Dems!!!! Also HE: look at all I was able to do thanks to the dems.
July 28, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: This was hilarious. Shane's episode was probably second best. This sketch didn't even make it to air for some reason and it was maybe his best one.
July 28, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Paul852 said: HE: The economy is so terrible because of the Dems!!!! Also HE: look at all I was able to do thanks to the dems. Nobody is a better poster child for the pitfalls of socialism than he is. A rising tide didn't lift that particular boat because that particular boat is severely retarded.
July 28, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Paul852 said: HE: The economy is so terrible because of the Dems!!!! Also HE: look at all I was able to do thanks to the dems. Dont forget, prior to last election I said I might vote for Biden just for loan forgiveness. That was the ONLY positive thing that would come from his presidency. Then I figured, I might still get it with Trump in office and I could vote for the better president. Yes, Democrats providing student loan forgiveness would be a huge boon for the US economy. Every dollar they pay out has potential to come back 2x, 3x, or more. Just think of the people with say 50k loan debt who are held back from buying their own house. You forgive that loan, and now they have a mortgage for 250k. Thats 5x. Or maybe they start a family. Thats even more than 5x. Ive not been a supporter of broad sweeping loan forgiveness. I earned mine through public service. I also paid my loans. Paid far more than my principle, never had them in deferment or forbearance. A lot of people arent doing those things. A lot of people made bad decisions and dont care to begin paying, and are now asking for the handout. I never asked for it. I took advantage of a program that already existed. With all that said, theres no doubt loan forgiveness is a fantastic investment for the government to make. Its going to pay off in multiples of whatever the amount is. Whether its targeted to certain people, or broad sweeping. Whether they deserve it or not. Its going to pay off for the country. Bigly. I gave some examples of the big expenditures we were able to do in the 2 years time since mine were forgiven. But there are many more to come. Consider that my loan payment would have been strangling our budget for the next 20 years. So the amount that we will spend over that time due to the ~800 a month that we used to pay (combined) on our student loans is only going to continue to grow. And we have already spend double the amount I owed.
July 28, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Smelling some BS Wait, you think an intellectually stunted idiot who also happens to be a habitual liar might be lying again rather than arguing in good faith? That's very much unlike all the other trump voters that have popped up in CVON.
July 28, 20241 yr Looks like a couple of ignoramuses who dont want to believe a policy they dont support is actually paying dividends for people, and the country. Predictable.
July 28, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: I gave some examples of the big expenditures we were able to do in the 2 years time since mine were forgiven. But there are many more to come. Consider that my loan payment would have been strangling our budget for the next 20 years. So the amount that we will spend over that time due to the ~800 a month that we used to pay (combined) on our student loans is only going to continue to grow. And we have already spend double the amount I owed. So loan forgiveness had a life-altering financial impact on your future and you've decided to turn your back on who made that possible? And don't want the same for others in your position? Climbing that ladder and pulling it up behind you. Cool.
July 28, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Looks like a couple of ignoramuses who dont want to believe a policy they dont support is actually paying dividends for people, and the country. Predictable. I've already said I support it you dork
July 28, 20241 yr Just now, Paul852 said: So loan forgiveness had a life-altering financial impact on your future and you've decided to turn your back on who made that possible? And don't want the same for others in your position? Climbing that ladder and pulling it up behind you. Cool. Youre not getting it. Donald Trump was in office already and didnt touch the PSLF program. There is no reason to believe he will now. And Obama put that program in place. Not Biden. So not voting Biden (or Kamala) is not turning my back on who made that possible.
July 28, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I've already said I support it you dork was talking about the other 2 bozos who cant read or do math.
July 28, 20241 yr Just now, HazletonEagle said: There is no reason to believe he will now. What? Quote As president, Trump called for the elimination of the U.S. Department of Education’s existing loan relief programs, including the popular Public Service Loan Forgiveness initiative, which benefits public employees such as members of the U.S. Armed Forces, first responders, public defenders, prosecutors and teachers. He also wanted to slash the department’s budget, and his administration halted a regulation aimed at providing loan forgiveness to those defrauded by their schools.
July 28, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: What? People in here keep saying he is going to re-instate debt. Hes not. That would be disastrous for american people and the economy. Will he reverse some other avenues Biden has been working to try to get people forgiveness? I think thats likely. Will he take money away from military, law enforcement, healthcare? That is going to be a PR nightmare for him. Too unpopular. Again, that program pre-dated his presidency. He didnt touch it. Some of this other loan forgiveness stuff though, is new since Biden took power. Im sure Trump will put an end to that stuff. Also, maybe RFK is my guy this time. Not sure yet.
July 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said: People in here keep saying he is going to re-instate debt. Hes not. That would be disastrous for american people and the economy. Will he reverse some other avenues Biden has been working to try to get people forgiveness? I think thats likely. Will he take money away from military, law enforcement, healthcare? That is going to be a PR nightmare for him. Too unpopular. Again, that program pre-dated his presidency. He didnt touch it. Some of this other loan forgiveness stuff though, is new since Biden took power. Im sure Trump will put an end to that stuff. Also, maybe RFK is my guy this time. Not sure yet. Trump wants to close the Education Department altogether. I'm not sure why you think he won't end all these programs.
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