54 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That aside, I've yet to hear anyone defend that idiotic tweet that the "people have spoken" in an election even the NYT and AP say was BS in Venezuela. 

I took it as her saying the votes must be counted and respected, not allowing Maduro to simply claim victory. That is the official US position. You are misreading the Tweet.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/blinken-us-concerns-announced-result-venezuelan-election-112359731

EDIT: I see @VanHammersly handled it. Not sure what was so confusing about a Tweet saying we need to "respect the will of the people"

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 

It's amazing how many times Lincoln Project employees have gotten caught trying to diddle underage boys and people still unironically share their stuff online. Thought it was only toaster in here.   

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I took it as her saying the votes must be counted and respected, not allowing Maduro to simply claim victory. That is the official US position. You are misreading the Tweet.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/blinken-us-concerns-announced-result-venezuelan-election-112359731

EDIT: I see @VanHammersly handled it. Not sure what was so confusing about a Tweet saying we need to "respect the will of the people"

You took it wrong

14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

What are you babbling about?  She said she supports the will of the people of Venezuela in that tweet.  Meanwhile, the Sec of State of the administration she's in already made it clear that Maduro has defied the will of the people of Venezuela.

 

Whatever. You can't spin that crap. She said the will of the people has spoken while police were shutting down voting sections as reported by the AP and NYT. You all can babble on as much as you want trying to spin it. She *** the bed on that one, but of course you all will defend her to the ends of the earth. 

12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

What are you babbling about?  She said she supports the will of the people of Venezuela in that tweet.  Meanwhile, the Sec of State of the administration she's in already made it clear that Maduro has defied the will of the people of Venezuela.

 

Diehard duped by right wing media again. Good dude, but always gets fed bad info.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

You took it wrong

Yeah, OK. She tweeted, from her official account as VP, policy in direct contravention of US policy. I really try and give you the benefit of the doubt because you're generally a good dude, but you're being ridiculous here. You want to criticize it for being unclear -- it would be ridiculous, but fine. But taking it was supporting Maduro is completely illogical.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

You took it wrong

Vikas and my point is already backed by other voices in the administration.  I think you're seeing what you want to see.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah, OK. She tweeted, from her official account as VP, policy in direct contravention of US policy. I really try and give you the benefit of the doubt because you're generally a good due, but you're being ridiculous here. You want to criticize it for being unclear -- it would be ridiculous, but fine. But taking it was supporting Maduro is completely illogical.

Very unclear, which isn't something someone who wants to be POTUS should be on an issue like that. 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Vikas and my point is already backed by other voices in the administration.  I think you're seeing what you want to see.

Not on this one. 

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

That aside, I've yet to hear anyone defend that idiotic tweet that the "people have spoken" in an election even the NYT and AP say was BS in Venezuela. 

Didn't Trump congratulate Putin on his election "victory"?

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Whatever. You can't spin that crap. She said the will of the people has spoken while police were shutting down voting sections as reported by the AP and NYT. You all can babble on as much as you want trying to spin it. She *** the bed on that one, but of course you all will defend her to the ends of the earth. 

You got blinders on bro. 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Wrong. Wrong Wrong

Solid rebuttal. Or refuttal. 

Thanks for making clear I shouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt.

It's amazing to think that these women all have husbands who post in CVON.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Solid rebuttal. Or refuttal. 

Thanks for making clear I shouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt.

I changed it to very unclear.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Not on this one. 

It's a big story so I'm sure she'll say more on this.  How about if she comes out in full support of dictator Nicolas Maduro I'll get a Trump avatar for two weeks and if she comes out in favor of the opposition you can switch to a Kamala avatar? 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

It's a big story so I'm sure she'll say more on this.  How about if she comes out in full support of dictator Nicolas Maduro I'll get a Trump avatar for two weeks and if she comes out in favor of the opposition you can switch to a Kamala avatar? 

If Trump put out a tweet like that people would give giving the same kind of crap he deserves over Putin

We must respect the sanctity of Venezuela's vote. Timely words by Kamualah.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I changed it to very unclear.

She could have specifically called out Maduro, but I wasn't really confused by it. I would agree it's poor wording because it will allow right wing idiots to run with it. But it came from the official VP account, which means it is going to reflect official policy. Right now the administration is making clear they have serious concerns over the election.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

If Trump put out a tweet like that people would give giving the same kind of crap he deserves over Putin

So yes or no on the avatar?  Sounds like you know I'm right.

Just now, vikas83 said:

She could have specifically called out Maduro, but I wasn't really confused by it. I would agree it's poor wording because it will allow right wing idiots to run with it. But it came from the official VP account, which means it is going to reflect official policy. Right now the administration is making clear they have serious concerns over the election.

We'll agree on that. In the middle of an election where the AP and NYT and others were reporting that police were shutting down polling stations someone who wants to be POTUS should not be tweeting the will of the people has spoken and the results have to be respected. 

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

So yes or no on the avatar?  Sounds like you know I'm right.

I don't do childish avatar bs games on here. 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I don't do childish avatar bs games on here

Right.  Exactly.  You know you're wrong here you're just trying to make something out of nothing.

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

We must respect the sanctity of Venezuela's vote. Timely words by Kamualah.

The will of the people has spoken and must be respected. 

 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

If Trump put out a tweet like that people would give giving the same kind of crap he deserves over Putin

Ummmmm, what do you mean "If"?