July 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: I'm staying home. The day she was announced, I seriously considered voting for Trump, but I'm not there now that I've calmed down. Morgan Luttrell was on a podcast with his brother Marcus talking about going to Dem offices to try to work on a compromise for the border and being told by some that they think what's happening is a good thing and they want it to continue. I don't think all Dems in office feel that way, but there certainly are many who do, or we wouldn't be seeing what we are seeing. It's an issue that needs to be fixed and I don't trust them to be the ones to do it. Will the GOP be better? Probably not, but maybe it won't continue at this level or even possibly increase. I'm wrong on a lot of things. I don't expect anyone to feel differently for having read one of my posts. That's just how I see things. I absolutely can't stand a single GOP politician in my state. They are just as bad as the Dems just in other ways. At this point I've lost hope that our country will ever turn around from the path we are on and I am pulling for people who won't burn it down as quickly so I can enjoy the good times before it gets even worse. imo voting 3rd party speaks louder than staying home. Tons of people stay home. But if there is a huge turnout at the battle box, and these mainstream candidates still dont get the votes- I think that sends a better message.
July 30, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: imo voting 3rd party speaks louder than staying home. Tons of people stay home. But if there is a huge turnout at the battle box, and these mainstream candidates still dont get the votes- I think that sends a better message. I really wish a 3rd party could gain traction. It is impossible with the duopoly in place.
July 30, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, Toastrel said: Where have we seen that behavior before? In 2020 when Biden declared victory
July 30, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, toolg said: I really wish a 3rd party could gain traction. It is impossible with the duopoly in place. Better yet, eliminate all political parties
July 30, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: In 2020 when Biden declared victory You still haven't read a damned thing about Venezuela's election, have you?
July 30, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: imo voting 3rd party speaks louder than staying home. Tons of people stay home. But if there is a huge turnout at the battle box, and these mainstream candidates still dont get the votes- I think that sends a better message. RFK Jr was someone I was hopeful for, but when I started learning more about him.... It would take something I can't imagine for us to change from a two party system. If these illegals keep coming in and get the right to vote we'll be one party in the next ten years or so. The roaches leaving Cali are already turning many places a lighter shade of red.
July 30, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: RFK Jr was someone I was hopeful for, but when I started learning more about him.... It would take something I can't imagine for us to change from a two party system. If these illegals keep coming in and get the right to vote we'll be one party in the next ten years or so. The roaches leaving Cali are already turning many places a lighter shade of red. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/robert-kennedy-jr-shocking-history
July 30, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: RFK Jr was someone I was hopeful for, but when I started learning more about him.... It would take something I can't imagine for us to change from a two party system. If these illegals keep coming in and get the right to vote we'll be one party in the next ten years or so. The roaches leaving Cali are already turning many places a lighter shade of red. Was it the promoting of raw milk or the dog eating that changed your mind?
July 30, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: Screw that POS. As a supporter of Cruz in that primary I still haven't forgotten how he changed on a dime to take the position. He backed Cruz and saw what Trump did to his wife and the other nasty stuff he pulled. He knew the type of man Trump was and what he was getting into. He put his ethics aside while Cruz didn't even support Trump at the convention and was booed off stage for saying "vote your conscience". Now he posts a video saying he isn't fit. Well, you should have known that when you signed on, Mike, even if Jan 6th was another level. I just don't want to hear it from him.
July 30, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Screw that POS Everything you just bashed Pence for is exactly what Cruz, Haley, Rubio, and countless others have done. Face it, dude, they're all cucks. Every single one of them. The only difference is that Pence finally chose to leave the cult while the others are still in it.
July 30, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Screw that POS. As a supporter of Cruz in that primary I still haven't forgotten how he changed on a dime to take the position. He backed Cruz and saw what Trump did to his wife and the other nasty stuff he pulled. He knew the type of man Trump was and what he was getting into. He put his ethics aside while Cruz didn't even support Trump at the convention and was booed off stage for saying "vote your conscience". Now he posts a video saying he isn't fit. Well, you should have known that when you signed on, Mike, even if Jan 6th was another level. I just don't want to hear it from him. Screw the POS that literally saved our democracy? Well done making yourself look like an absolute moron.
July 30, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Everything you just bashed Pence for is exactly what Cruz, Haley, Rubio, and countless others have done. Face it, dude, they're all cucks. Every single one of them. The only difference is that Pence finally chose to leave the cult while the others are still in it. Chose? He'd ram a cactus up his arse if it meant he could feel the hot hellfires of MAGA's embrace again. He was banished.
July 30, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Screw that POS. As a supporter of Cruz in that primary I still haven't forgotten how he changed on a dime to take the position. He backed Cruz and saw what Trump did to his wife and the other nasty stuff he pulled. He knew the type of man Trump was and what he was getting into. He put his ethics aside while Cruz didn't even support Trump at the convention and was booed off stage for saying "vote your conscience". Now he posts a video saying he isn't fit. Well, you should have known that when you signed on, Mike, even if Jan 6th was another level. I just don't want to hear it from him. He put his ethics aside in favor of Trump? Isn't that basically the whole party? Except Mike said "Okay, that's enough." It's basically CVON's relationship with you now, right? You were a Trumper, you saw reality and now despite not agreeing with you politically, many of us can say "Hey at least he shook off the cult."
July 30, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, toolg said: I really wish a 3rd party could gain traction. It is impossible with the duopoly in place. Me too, but you are correct about the duopoly preventing it from happening. I’ve seen first hand, the lengths they will go to, to make it hard for their party candidates. It’s one of the things they agree on the most.
July 30, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Everything you just bashed Pence for is exactly what Cruz, Haley, Rubio, and countless others have done. Face it, dude, they're all cucks. Every single one of them. The only difference is that Pence finally chose to leave the cult while the others are still in it. I'm still not over it. If John K would have gotten the hell out of the race we might not have had Trump in the first place. I was also hoping for the slim chance of a brokered convention until Pence who was one of Cruz's biggest allies agreed to be his VP. Yeah, he finally decided to leave, but I don't want to hear it from someone who knowingly sold out to get there.
July 30, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Lloyd said: He put his ethics aside in favor of Trump? Isn't that basically the whole party? Except Mike said "Okay, that's enough." It's basically CVON's relationship with you now, right? You were a Trumper, you saw reality and now despite not agreeing with you politically, many of us can say "Hey at least he shook off the cult." Yeah, I was Never Trump, to supported him, to back to where I was. My choices didn't screw Cruz in the process which I'm still pissed about along with John K not dropping out to play spoiler. He's the SOB people should be mad at. He just couldn't drop the hell out and Trump won. Were the chances of a brokered convention high? No, but that absolutely went out the window when Pence joined.
July 30, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, Procus said: Better yet, eliminate all political parties Or let all political parties play by the same set of times.
July 30, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: He's the SOB people should be mad at. He just couldn't drop the hell out and Trump won. You seem confused again. There was no scenario where Kasich dropping out would've allowed Cruz to win. Even if you think every single Kasich voter (myself included) would've flipped their votes to Cruz (which is not what would've happened) that still doesn't result in Cruz beating Trump. Pinning the blame on Kasich proves that you weren't paying any attention at all to what happened in the primaries.
July 30, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: You seem confused again. There was no scenario where Kasich dropping out would've allowed Cruz to win. Even if you think every single Kasich voter (myself included) would've flipped their votes to Cruz (which is not what would've happened) that still doesn't result in Cruz beating Trump. Pinning the blame on Kasich proves that you weren't paying any attention at all to what happened in the primaries. Ted CRUUUUUZZ! How on earth have we been yapping about weird Republicans for almost a week and this guy hasn't gotten mentioned yet? That's how deep the wierdo bench is over there 🤣
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