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Screw the debate, let's have a dance off!

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Bovada just updated the odds and now lists Walz as the massive favorite. Maybe there was some sighting of him on the way or near the airport to join her in Philly today. Not sure it's the right move, could be they figure PA is in the bag and they're hoping Walz can better help to secure WI. Or maybe there trying to reel back in any disaffected Biden voters. Kinda blunts some of their "Trump's too old" attacks.

He's right, you know.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Bovada just updated the odds and now lists Walz as the massive favorite. Maybe there was some sighting of him on the way or near the airport to join her in Philly today. Not sure it's the right move, could be they figure PA is in the bag and they're hoping Walz can better help to secure WI. Or maybe there trying to reel back in any disaffected Biden voters. Kinda blunts some of their "Trump's too old" attacks.

He's the same age as Mark Kelly and Kamala.

He just LOOKS old.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

He's the same age as Mark Kelly and Kamala.

He just LOOKS old.

Yeah, that's all people are gonna see. The average voter isn't informed enough to know Trump is almost 20 years older than him.

12 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Bovada just updated the odds and now lists Walz as the massive favorite. Maybe there was some sighting of him on the way or near the airport to join her in Philly today. Not sure it's the right move, could be they figure PA is in the bag and they're hoping Walz can better help to secure WI. Or maybe there trying to reel back in any disaffected Biden voters. Kinda blunts some of their "Trump's too old" attacks.

He's 60 FFS

11 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

Sad

And he constantly talks about Biden campaigning from his basement....

10 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

BWAAHHAAAAAA!!!! JFC they're all freaks!

 

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21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Bovada just updated the odds and now lists Walz as the massive favorite. Maybe there was some sighting of him on the way or near the airport to join her in Philly today. Not sure it's the right move, could be they figure PA is in the bag and they're hoping Walz can better help to secure WI. Or maybe there trying to reel back in any disaffected Biden voters. Kinda blunts some of their "Trump's too old" attacks.

I find it myopic to make such a straight equation of Shapiro = Pennsylvannia, that is not how VEEp picks have actually worked pretty much ever. Harris will have Shapiro stumping for her all campaign either way, she will also have Scranton Joe.  What the VEEP pick needs to do more than anything is excite the demographics in your party and on the fringes that the primary candidate doesn't.  In Kamala's case that's midwestern suburban types.  He has military experience which is always good and I believe he is more affable and appealing to a broader group that n the decidedly East Coast swagger of Shapiro.

 

I get that Shapiro is popular on this Eagles MB, makes sense.  But I believe Waltz will be more appealing to more voters and has zero downside while Shapiro is clearly disliked by the anti-zionist wing (fairly or not) and the anti school voucher wing (fairly).  Shapiro also has the potential to upstage Kamala and has the ambition to not mind doing so.  That would be lethal to this campaign, if we're not quite sure who's really on top.

Walz confirmed

 

3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I find it myopic to make such a straight equation of Shapiro = Pennsylvannia

One of the pollsters put it somewhere around a 1.7 pt bump in the VP's home state. Obviously, it's just a guess based on imperfect data but that's a lot if the margins are already thin.

Clearly anit-semitisim :nonono: 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Walz confirmed

 

:nonono:   that's the final straw. i'm out! i'm voting for trump!!! 

Just now, paco said:

Clearly anit-semitisim :nonono: 

The best candidates were very clearly Whitmer and Butigieg and they were never even seriously considered. So that's where anti semitism ranked in this choice Mr Toilet Paper.

1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said:

The best candidates were very clearly Whitmer and Butigieg and they were never even seriously considered. So that's where anti semitism ranked in this choice Mr Toilet Paper.

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23 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah, that's all people are gonna see. The average voter isn't informed enough to know Trump is almost 20 years older than him.

outside of the hair he does not look old 
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He's got nothing...

Trump’s New Attack on ‘Kamabla’ Harris Is Literally Gibberish

"People vote with their STOMACH, and food is now at an all time high because of Kamabla/Biden INCOMPETENCE,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Monday. "With them in charge, IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE!”

What appeared to be a typo was confirmed as an intentional misspelling of Harris’ first name in a follow-up post an hour later.

"Kamabla has stated, over and over again, that she wants to DEFUND THE POLICE AND, WITHOUT QUESTION, BAN FRACKING,” Trump wrote. “‘NO MORE FOSSIL FUEL.’ This will quadruple the cost of energy in America! DEPRESSION ANYONE!”

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

outside of the hair he does not look old 
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2 minutes ago, paco said:

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That's why you're Toilet Paper, always cushioning your defense of Trump.

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

 

That's why you're Toilet Paper, always cushioning your defense of Trump.

:lol: wut?

4 minutes ago, paco said:

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scientific fact - galactically horrible food & movie opinions always lead to a lack of a sense of humor. 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

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eh. Kelly looks older frankly.

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lot of younger guys have gray hair and hair loss, but you can see his face is still youthful (relative to his age) and he's energetic on camera. I'm not that concerned.

I would have liked Shapiro, but also glad we'll have him as our governor still. I don't hate the Walz pick.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

One of the pollsters put it somewhere around a 1.7 pt bump in the VP's home state. Obviously, it's just a guess based on imperfect data but that's a lot if the margins are already thin.

I was afraid that data driven Harris would go Shapiro for that reason alone. It's a national campaign you have to win and the ticket needs to make sense and fit not just to win, but to govern. My opinion has been that Kelly and then Waltz were the best picks.  I still wanted Kelly, but who knows what happened during the very important vetting process.

Really like the pick and I think Harris played it perfectly.  Teasing Shapiro and pivoting to Walz will gin the base.  Harris has much better political instincts than I would've thought.  And Walz is great on camera and has a solid background as a vet and a former teacher.

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