7 minutes ago, Tweek said:

Keep the family out of it....remember the reeing whenever someone mentioned Baron? Pepperidge farm remembers 

 

Looks normal. Nothing wrong with that. I  mean the kid reminds me of the spoiled one from Caddy Shack but not his fault.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I love people who serve. The IDF is no exception. 

I like Clinton who had a ton. Plus that's not a card the GOP should play.

But they would play it anyway.  If it's a card, they're going to play it. 

And Walz served for 24 years.

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Harris wouldn't have come close to winning the primary.

I disagree. I think she would've been in the top 2 or 3, especially with a Biden endorsement, but we'll obviously never know for sure.

5 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

outside of the hair he does not look old 

uhhh, yeah he looks pretty old and that's my group so i see LOTS of people in that vicinity

5 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I think that's underselling Obama and the coalition he built that's won all 3 elections they ran it and now has Harris in a good spot.  

He is a fantastic politician who built an amazing coalition, that was evident in 2012. Just pointing out in 2008 any Democrat would have won.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I disagree. I think she would've been in the top 2 or 3, especially with a Biden endorsement, but we'll obviously never know for sure.

I don't think she would have won either but agree it's a 'what if' situation that people will ponder pointlessly 

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

the reality that Harris isn't popular

She's ahead in a majority of polls at this point, and trending higher. Does she have a ways to go before you can feel confident that any polling error still results in a win? Of course, but to say she isn't popular is a bit bizarre considering all the polling data we have since she floated to the top of the ticket.

18 minutes ago, paco said:

The pigs in Charlottesville are the same as the pigs spray painting HAMAS on monuments.  

At the very least the Palestinians make better victims than literal notzees.  Israel are D's, I'm totally down with calling them out for being the D's they are. But the level of hate against Jews is equally ugly from "both sides" and is unacceptable.

5 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

The Anti Semite should be identified.

And reminder that she doesn't have to be wildly popular, just more popular than the worst president of all-time in a handful of states

 

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

He does not lose them, but does nothing to win them, Shapiro would make PA a slam dunk, Kelly would probably put AZ in the win column, if people don't see that Walz does nothing for Harris you just don't want to see it

The thought is that he helps in the midwest. MI is staying blue regardless, but WI is always on the knife's edge, so hopefully he has some appeal there that Shapiro otherwise wouldn't have had.

 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

He is a fantastic politician who built an amazing coalition, that was evident in 2012. Just pointing out in 2008 any Democrat would have won.

And tying that to VEEP picks, i consider Sarah palin one of the more underrated VP picks in recent memory.  Did she flame out bad? Oh yeah.  But she also energized the base enough that for about 2 weeks you almost thought Mccain had a chance.  It was the only time in that entire election it felt he could get into the game.  It was a hail Mary in a lost election, but the receiver got his finger tips on it.

4 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Well, it was a fun 2 weeks where we imagined a second Trump term wasn't going to happen. Harris made her first MAJOR mistake by choosing Walz over Shapiro. I hope it's not a mortal wound, but it really is just a completely insane unforced error here for a number of reasons:

1. She has to win PA - there is basically no path to victory without it. Shapiro's favorability in PA is off the charts. She just threw that away.

2. This shows that Harris will not stand up to the fringe, rabid anti-Semitic wing of her party. She's hoping that energizing a group that NEVER shows up to vote will offset turning off moderates. She will likely be wrong.

3. Walz brings the baggage of the 2020 BLM riots with him, and most Americans found the destruction of property to be disgusting. He was the governor of MN when it all went down. She just made this a campaign talking point for Trump. Just a monumental mistake.

Harris had a chance to really knock Trump out by appealing to swing voters and she threw it away for someone who will placate the insane wing of her party that doesn't even show up to vote. Bowman lost. Bush is about to lose. She joined the losing side. 

I hope you are wrong but I can't find fault with anything that you have written above.  I do NOT like the choice at all.  The fringe left did not need a bone sent their way.  They will come out no matter what in the anti-Trump vote.

 

4 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

And tying that to VEEP picks, i consider Sarah palin one of the more underrated VP picks in recent memory.  Did she flame out bad? Oh yeah.  But she also energized the base enough that for about 2 weeks you almost thought Mccain had a chance.  It was the only time in that entire election it felt he could get into the game.  It was a hail Mary in a lost election, but the receiver got his finger tips on it.

With the qualifier that I am a McCain fan (more of his life story), I think the Palin pick was exactly as you described -- a complete Hail Mary. It's like when Dole went all in on winning CA in 1996. McCain saw the global economy burning down and knew he needed a miracle. Palin was a real boost right up until she had to start answering questions. What's funny is in 2016-2024, Trump has proven her ignorance wouldn't be a liability anymore.

1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said:

Moderates never get excited about anything, that's why they're moderates and that's why they never win an election for either party all by themselves.

You mean besides the last one?

1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said:

Excuse me?  The black vote is fired up.  The youth vote is fired up.  That's because Kamala is a hard left black woman.  You guys are stubborn as F in denying the hard left their dues.  Like you want to pretend they don't exist.  Moderates never get excited about anything, that's why they're moderates and that's why they never win an election for either party all by themselves.

Yeah, we never get excited for anything because the fringes ruined it for the rest of us.  We have things to do, so we can't find the time to ish post online like some MAGAt collecting SSI or some they/them that had her hours slashed at Starbucks.

 

Frist Walz ad. Pretty good.

 

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Frist Walz ad. Pretty good.

 

Curious what a Shapiro ad would look like if he was the pick. Maybe Walz is easier to sell to the broad American public compared to Shapiro. 

The average voter doesn't follow politics 24/7 like a junkie. A lot of people vote on likeability, and they will watch a 5 minute clip of Walz and like him. Teacher, coach, military experience, farmer, hunter, rural and suburban appeal, government experience. The white suburban women will favor him over JD Vance who has done nothing but alienate women and look like a freak weirdo.

Someone mentioned Shapiro being the "coastal elite." Harris is already the California lawyer, Walz balances out the appeal as the Middle America relatable guy. Shapiro and others that were mentioned would have also been good picks. JD Vance is going to look so bad in the VP Debates (if they have them?). If one of the criteria for voters is, who would you want taking over if something happened to POTUS, JD Vance is one of the worst VP picks in history (if not the worst).

That interview clip where he jokingly calls himself a monster for feeding and education children is a perfect response and voters will eat that stuff up.  

No puns yet about how they're going to Walz right into winning this election?

I highly doubt there will be a VP debate, or another Presidential debate. You can't put Vance on stage to get killed.

Just now, vikas83 said:

I highly doubt there will be a VP debate, or another Presidential debate. You can't put Vance on stage to get killed.

I'm not sure about VP debate.  I kind of think we'll get one.  It would be a really Trump move to be personally terrified to debate but force his VP to do one.