August 13, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: His argument is that this wouldn't have happened if the democrats had not stolen the 202 election because Trump would have disolved NATO making the invasion of Ukraine unnecessary. It's a chilling and bizarre take. Point him to the Alexsandr Dugin vids so he can learn about the Russian long term strategy. Taking Ukraine has always been in the cards along with many other expansive measures in the Russian plan.
August 13, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: My cousin whom I'm very close with, but is a hard core Trumper goes with a "this is all America's fault" when we discuss Ukraine. When we talked about it, he said because of our NATO expansion we forced Putin's hand. Putin is only protecting his national security interests against American aggression and NATO expansion. It's bizarre hearing this argument from someone (who I really do love) who voted for W. twice and told me that the Iraq war was not only justified but a brilliant measure to protect our national security interests and assert our military dominance. His argument is that this wouldn't have happened if the democrats had not stolen the 202 election because Trump would have disolved NATO making the invasion of Ukraine unnecessary. It's a chilling and bizarre take. I dunno...they're bizarre people. I suppose if Trump dissolved NATO, the invasion of Ukraine would be unnecessary...because Ukraine wouldn't be able to fight against Russian aggression in the first place. But there's no way Putin would sit back and let a democratic Ukraine elect its own politicians who may or may not align with what Russia wants for the region. Anyway, no point in debating those people. Just accept that they're weird.
August 13, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Point him to the Alexsandr Dugin vids so he can learn about the Russian long term strategy. Taking Ukraine has always been in the cards along with many other expansive measures in the Russian plan. In the early days of the invasion Russian tanks were flying the soviet flag. That tells me all I need to know about what the strategy is, but you can't really get through to Trumpers. The best I could do was get him to say "I don't know" when I asked if there were any possible outcome in which Trump would ever concede an election. (that means no).
August 13, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: My cousin whom I'm very close with, but is a hard core Trumper goes with a "this is all America's fault" when we discuss Ukraine. When we talked about it, he said because of our NATO expansion we forced Putin's hand. Putin is only protecting his national security interests against American aggression and NATO expansion. It's bizarre hearing this argument from someone (who I really do love) who voted for W. twice and once told me that the Iraq war was not only justified but a brilliant measure to protect our national security interests and assert our military dominance. His argument is that this wouldn't have happened if the democrats had not stolen the 202 election because Trump would have dissolved NATO making the invasion of Ukraine unnecessary. It's a chilling and bizarre take. I know a guy like that, political junkie socialist dude who for decades before this latest incursion always toted the "Russia only wants their immediate territory" line. Oh yeah, and what the F are the doing in F'ing CONGO then? Just their territory seems to comprise half of Asia and half of Europe too. Communists and MAGA are bound by the testicles on this.
August 13, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: In the early days of the invasion Russian tanks were flying the soviet flag. That tells me all I need to know about what the strategy is, but you can't really get through to Trumpers. The best I could do was get him to say "I don't know" when I asked if there were any possible outcome in which Trump would ever concede an election. (that means no). Yeah, I get it. Maybe he will understand if he hears it directly from the Russians. That's where the Dugin vids come in to play. There are several there but maybe the 60 Minutes one would be the place to start. I think it is less than 5 minutes long and is on YouTube.
August 13, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: The best I could do was get him to say "I don't know" when I asked if there were any possible outcome in which Trump would ever concede an election. (that means no) I think the Harris campaign should prepare an A.I. Trump concession call on election night, then just go out on stage with their victory speech. What's Trump gonna say -- it was all A.I.?
August 13, 20241 yr Just now, Alphagrand said: I think the Harris campaign should prepare an A.I. Trump concession call on election night, then just go out on stage with their victory speech. What's Trump gonna say -- it was all A.I.? this...and for the voiceover, they could hire a cheeto impersonator who's a ghey! for the lisp!
August 13, 20241 yr Who's got nicer golf courses -- Venezuela or Hungary? Trump suggests he will flee to Venezuela if he loses the election Donald Trump suggested during his interview with Elon Musk that he could flee to Venezuela if he loses the election , because it is 'far safer' than the United States. During his two-hour conversation with the tech mogul on X's Spaces, the former president said the South American nation is 'emptying out' its prisons and sending murderers and rapists to the southern border. 'If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country. 'OK, so we'll go. You and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela'.
August 13, 20241 yr He also thinks Kamala looks like his wife? Dude is off his rocker Quote During a chaotic interview with Elon Musk yesterday on X, Trump explained that Harris' face looked familiar. "She looked very much like our great first lady, Melania," Trump said. As well as making this odd comparison, Trump also appeared to mispronounce Kamala Harris' name numerous times. At points, it sounded like he was saying "Camilla."
August 13, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Oh the thing that doesn't happen is happening and it's a good thing. I mean Trump is doing so poorly that we probably don't even need to steal this one, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
August 13, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Oh the thing that doesn't happen is happening and it's a good thing. Hey KZ, the libtards are using AI to inflate Kambala crowd sizes. I read right from the source, the man himself, confirming what your group of 3 wise men has posted already. Wow, you all get the inside track on truth. It's impressive. Also, hold on to your Truth Social stock, its about to go into the stratosphere after the Musk love of Trump. Or, is that Trump Musk love (maybe ask Stormy).
August 13, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Next_Up said: Hey KZ, the libtards are using AI to inflate Kambala crowd sizes. I read right from the source, the man himself, confirming what your group of 3 wise men has posted already. Wow, you all get the inside track on truth. It's impressive. Also, hold on to your Truth Social stock, its about to go into the stratosphere after the Musk love of Trump. Or, is that Trump Musk love (maybe ask Stormy). Very normal reaction to the NY Times writing a story about how libs are fast-tracking citizenship requests so that current non-citizens can vote in the upcoming election. Male liberals are so cringe.
August 13, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, Kz! said: Oh the thing that doesn't happen is happening and it's a good thing. Shouldn't you be asking why there was a backlog that built up during the Trump years? Can't have inefficient government like that.
August 13, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, Kz! said: Oh the thing that doesn't happen is happening and it's a good thing. People have claimed that legal immigrants aren't being naturalized? Are you sure?
August 13, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Kz! said: Very normal reaction to the NY Times writing a story about how libs are fast-tracking citizenship requests so that current non-citizens can vote in the upcoming election. Male liberals are so cringe. Everything with you is about gender. You sure you aren't asking it to "put the lotion on its skin," Buffalo Bill?
August 13, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Next_Up said: Everything with you is about gender. You sure you aren't asking it to "put the lotion on its skin," Buffalo Bill? Another banger.
August 13, 20241 yr The top of the Republican ticket is hawking EV's and the VEEP is vegetarian. They have co-opted some of the most insane positions the far left has ever held; anti-vaccine and pro-Russia. They are also bigger sore losers than the millennials they used to make fun of. They are also against free sex. They insist they aren't weird.
August 13, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: NATO spending by Europe's gone up far more under Biden than it ever did under Trump. He didn't hold anyone accountable for anything. He just emboldened Putin by trashing our allies. https://www.politico.eu/article/defense-spending-target-nato-joe-biden-jens-stoltenberg/ Yes he emboldened Putin so much that he didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was in office, he waited for over a year after he left. It's like reality doesn't exist, only your stupid talking points. Another quote from Stoltenberg for you: "I worked with [Trump] over those four years. And the reality is that he had a very clear message on the need for European allies to spend more. And I agree with him," Stoltenberg said." OMG he sounds so trashed by Trump's painful words. Once again, Trump was right and the Dems were idiotically behind the curve on a foreign policy issue.
August 13, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, Kz! said: Oh the thing that doesn't happen is happening and it's a good thing. More votes for Dems and a cheaper labor pool. I struggle to see the downside here.
August 13, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yes he emboldened Putin so much that he didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was in office Yes, and Covid didn't hit while Biden was in office but it did while Trump was at the helm. Coincidence? Obviously not. Trump let it in. 2nd Trump term = new pandemic. Ya'lls 2 year old talking point aside, the actual issue in this election is what are Trump and Harris going to do about Ukraine going forward. Trump wants to side with our enemies, hand Ukraine to Russia and further alienate us from the Western world. Harris wants to stay in line with our allies and help Ukraine win the war. It's not a particularly difficult choice.
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