August 21, 20241 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Half of America couldn't stand Obama but he tried clowning Trump. America responded accordingly and humbled his dumb arse He didn't beat Obama (and would never have been able to) and, like Vikas said, Trump was already on his birth certificate crusade by the time Obama trashed him at the roast. Trump's a baby beetch.
August 21, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I wonder if it haunts Obama that he is probably the person most responsible for Trump becoming POTUS. Sounds like an admission. It the first step.
August 21, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Half of America couldn't stand Obama but he tried clowning Trump. America responded accordingly and humbled his dumb arse yeah, obama's looked humbled ever since.
August 21, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: He didn't beat Obama (and would never have been able to) and, like Vikas said, Trump was already on his birth certificate crusade by the time Obama trashed him at the roast. Trump's a baby beetch. As much as it helps soothe your mental anguish, Obama was probably the biggest driving force behind Trump getting elected Not everyone has the "HOPE" poster hanging above their bed.
August 21, 20241 yr "I know Trump will outperform Kamala in every facet as POTUS, but then the TV people will make fun of me" All the pussified Americans voting for their emotions
August 21, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: GWB? I'd sign up for Haley. I'm still salty she kissed the ring
August 21, 20241 yr electing a reality tv dimwit with a penchant for not being fond of poc was the repugs' reaction to america's first black president. congrats?
August 21, 20241 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: As much as it helps soothe your mental anguish, Obama was probably the biggest driving force behind Trump getting elected Not everyone has the "HOPE" poster hanging above their bed. The biggest driving force behind the worst President in US history was morons like you who voted for him, but for sure Trump's feelings being hurt by Obama probably had a big influence on him running. It's all kind meaningless at this point though. Obama just embarrassed him again and now he's marching towards a second straight defeat.
August 21, 20241 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: electing a reality tv dimwit with a penchant for not being fond of poc was the repugs' reaction to america's first black president. congrats? yeah, but mikey celebrating that doesn't mean he's a boob, and don't you dare call him weird, because that's over the line and mean!
August 21, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I wonder if it haunts Obama that he is probably the person most responsible for Trump becoming POTUS. The nerve of him! Being born with brown skin! SHAME!
August 21, 20241 yr The reality is that, generally speaking, after 2 terms of a President the country generally reacts by swinging the pendulum the other way and electing the other party. The only exceptions in the 20th century are Bush 41 after 8 years of Reagan (Reagan was immensely popular when he left office), FDR winning 4 terms (WW2 was raging) and the GOP winning 3 straight elections from 1920-1928. Even after 8 years of Ike, who was popular, the country went to the other party and elected JFK. Obama was the most liberal President ever, and was the first minority. The fact that his 8 years led to a GOP win isn't surprising. The fact that it was a boob, imbecile game show host was different, but Trump captured those that (i) felt left behind and (ii) were angry about a black President.
August 21, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: His speech at the correspondent dinner was probably the inflection point that ushered Trump into the spotlight. He couldn't stop talking ish about Trump and every time he mentioned him it was dripping with arrogance. And his term wasn't nearly the success Dems think it was. Just more of the "I'm cool because I voted for the black guy" identity politics nonsense that now defines his party. And why did he mention a reality TV gameshow host during a correspondent dinner speech? Was there something that sparked it? Or did he just have a thing about attacking reality TV stars and steak salesmen? Can't remember.
August 21, 20241 yr Not that anyone cares, or that it really matters since I live in CA, but I've decided that, in order to save the GOP and finally have a party I can support again, Trump needs to not only lose this election, but be destroyed. The margin has to be so large that it is the end of MAGA, and there is no way to spin stolen election lies. If that happens, maybe (I know it's not likely but let me dream) actual conservatives will eject this idiot and his insanity from the GOP. I want the party of Reagan back. So I am left with no choice other than...sigh...voting for Kamala Harris. I hate it. But it's the only way.
August 21, 20241 yr 50 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Is there much of a difference between 80 and 60 in the eyes of a 20 yr old? To them, probabably not, but 60 is a lot different now than it was even 30 years ago. People age better; way lower smoking rates and alcoholism, plus they're not retiring from working 30 years at the factory around whatever fumes they had floating about.
August 21, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: Not that anyone cares, or that it really matters since I live in CA, but I've decided that, in order to save the GOP and finally have a party I can support again, Trump needs to not only lose this election, but be destroyed. The margin has to be so large that it is the end of MAGA, and there is no way to spin stolen election lies. If that happens, maybe (I know it's not likely but let me dream) actual conservatives will eject this idiot and his insanity from the GOP. I want the party of Reagan back. So I am left with no choice other than...sigh...voting for Kamala Harris. I hate it. But it's the only way. 🫡
August 21, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I wonder if it haunts Obama that he is probably the person most responsible for Trump becoming POTUS. Not nearly as much as it haunts Trump that he lost to old man Biden and still can't bring himself to admit it.
August 21, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Bill said: To them, probabably not, but 60 is a lot different now than it was even 30 years ago. People age better; way lower smoking rates and alcoholism, plus they're not retiring from working 30 years at the factory around whatever fumes they had floating about. Add on top of that the difference between this 60 year old as compared to her 78 year old opponent. Trump was never very intelligent to begin with, but now he is suffering from obvious mental decline. He can't really string together coherent sentences anymore, meanders off topic, and slurs words. Harris is no rocket scientist, but she looks like a Mensa member compared to her opponent. In this election, the gap looks a lot larger than 18 years.
August 21, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Bidenomics in action Wow, the government lying to make sheetlibs look good? This is very surprising.
August 21, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The reality is that, generally speaking, after 2 terms of a President the country generally reacts by swinging the pendulum the other way and electing the other party. The only exceptions in the 20th century are Bush 41 after 8 years of Reagan (Reagan was immensely popular when he left office), FDR winning 4 terms (WW2 was raging) and the GOP winning 3 straight elections from 1920-1928. Even after 8 years of Ike, who was popular, the country went to the other party and elected JFK. Obama was the most liberal President ever, and was the first minority. The fact that his 8 years led to a GOP win isn't surprising. The fact that it was a boob, imbecile game show host was different, but Trump captured those that (i) felt left behind and (ii) were angry about a black President. none of them will ever admit part ii.
August 21, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The biggest driving force behind the worst President in US history was morons like you who voted for him, but for sure Trump's feelings being hurt by Obama probably had a big influence on him running. It's all kind meaningless at this point though. Obama just embarrassed him again and now he's marching towards a second straight defeat. Trump is clearly a better POTUS than Biden
August 21, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Not that anyone cares, or that it really matters since I live in CA, but I've decided that, in order to save the GOP and finally have a party I can support again, Trump needs to not only lose this election, but be destroyed. The margin has to be so large that it is the end of MAGA, and there is no way to spin stolen election lies. If that happens, maybe (I know it's not likely but let me dream) actual conservatives will eject this idiot and his insanity from the GOP. I want the party of Reagan back. So I am left with no choice other than...sigh...voting for Kamala Harris. I hate it. But it's the only way. That's the conclusion I came to, as well. Initially I just thought about voting Libertarian for the third time, but the libertarian party is worse than it's ever been. Then I thought about writing in Haley or McMaster, but I think you're right that the only chance to not have MAGA keep ruling the roost is for him to have a Mondale level loss. Even then, I'm not so sure that it would work. More people are independents than ever, and without open primaries, the same idiots will just keep voting in MAGA candidates. Would they really accept any loss this time, no matter how bad it is, given how they didn't accept the last one?
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