August 23, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said: Give me the Simple Jack in the back please It's called The Beaker
August 23, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: This leads to a question I've been asking -- who or what rises up from the ruins of MAGA? As it stands right now, Harris will win this election, at least the voting portion. Normally certification of an election is ceremonial, but this one will be met with court challenges and a lot of hand wringing because Persistent Dump isn't going to concede, just like he never conceded the last one. The larger question is how many cronies will ride or die with him between November and January? I don't have a crystal ball, but I don't think even Trump can survive politically after two general election losses. Republicans are hungry for power and they'll eventually face that Trump is a losing commodity. I believe the DC Election Interference trial will get back into full swing in early 2025 and I also think the Florida classified documents case dismissal will be overturned on appeal and reassigned to another federal judge. Once that happens I suspect Trump leaves the country. It will take a bit of time but I think his influence over the Party will disappear. Not sure who steps up to rebuild after that point; it will be interesting to see. The same way the party completely abandoned all the classic conservative values and typical positions and went all in on Trump, is the same way they will distance themselves from him after he loses. They'll spend 4 years trying to forget Trump and focus on criticizing Harris. They won't put out another populist controversy lightning rod, they'll try to find a balance between appealing to MAGA with attacking Harris, while also being somewhat charismatic and younger. Depending on how Harris' first 4 years go, that person might lose. If Harris goes two terms, MAGA will be long dead by then. All the typical faces will be gone, they will be working on younger and lesser known people in Congress and up and coming Governors. The pendulum will swing back to classical conservatives, and likely they will move toward the center on some issues to help with their appeal. Politicians and political parties flip flop to whatever works. Both parties have gone back and forth on supposedly caring about certain things, depending on who their candidate is. Democrats used to be about blue collar, unions and the working class. The Obama years became about Coastal elites with Ivy League schooling, telling manufacturing workers to learn to code and mocking Bush's casual speaking. Trump won over the white working class and those that didn't go to college were called "uneducated" and looked down on. Then they loved that Biden was a casual speaking, tell it like it is blue collar guy. Now Harris/Walz are catering to the middle class again, and mocking JD Vance for going to Yale and highlighting that Walz is a blue collar small town guy. Harris was criticized for harsh sentences for black criminals including weed infractions during her time in CA, then promoted funds for bailing out violent rioters after Floyd's murder. Trump talked about "Law & Order" and became a felon, now Harris is Law & Order flexing her prosecutor muscles. Democrats including Obama and Clinton were against gay marriage until they realized it would be more popular to support it. The left in the past has called for strong borders and stricter immigration policy, while also criticizing Republicans when they say the same thing. Both parties either accentuate or downplay military service for the candidates depending on the person running. John Kerry made Vietnam his whole personality and they said Bush has no military experience. 4 years later Obama's lack of military experience didn't matter, and McCain's military experience was downplayed. There are other examples. All that to say, the first thing they need after the loss is Trump to fade away over time. He might try to stay relevant in his social media platform, news outlets or something. But he'll no longer be a candidate and the pendulum will swing back to more classical conservative. Perhaps with mixing in some left-of-center and libertarian ideas or whatever they think will make them electable again.
August 23, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: ok so no more .... retarded moron idiot dumbarse numbskull window licker west virginian what about knuckle dragger, trumper and cowboys fan? Is magat too harsh? Because real maggots do actually serve a purpose and provide a benefit to the planet.
August 23, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, NOTW said: The same way the party completely abandoned all the classic conservative values and typical positions and went all in on Trump, is the same way they will distance themselves from him after he loses. They'll spend 4 years trying to forget Trump and focus on criticizing Harris. They won't put out another populist controversy lightning rod, they'll try to find a balance between appealing to MAGA with attacking Harris, while also being somewhat charismatic and younger. Depending on how Harris' first 4 years go, that person might lose. If Harris goes two terms, MAGA will be long dead by then. All the typical faces will be gone, they will be working on younger and lesser known people in Congress and up and coming Governors. The pendulum will swing back to classical conservatives, and likely they will move toward the center on some issues to help with their appeal. Politicians and political parties flip flop to whatever works. Both parties have gone back and forth on supposedly caring about certain things, depending on who their candidate is. Democrats used to be about blue collar, unions and the working class. The Obama years became about Coastal elites with Ivy League schooling, telling manufacturing workers to learn to code and mocking Bush's casual speaking. Trump won over the white working class and those that didn't go to college were called "uneducated" and looked down on. Then they loved that Biden was a casual speaking, tell it like it is blue collar guy. Now Harris/Walz are catering to the middle class again, and mocking JD Vance for going to Yale and highlighting that Walz is a blue collar small town guy. Harris was criticized for harsh sentences for black criminals including weed infractions during her time in CA, then promoted funds for bailing out violent rioters after Floyd's murder. Trump talked about "Law & Order" and became a felon, now Harris is Law & Order flexing her prosecutor muscles. Democrats including Obama and Clinton were against gay marriage until they realized it would be more popular to support it. The left in the past has called for strong borders and stricter immigration policy, while also criticizing Republicans when they say the same thing. Both parties either accentuate or downplay military service for the candidates depending on the person running. John Kerry made Vietnam his whole personality and they said Bush has no military experience. 4 years later Obama's lack of military experience didn't matter, and McCain's military experience was downplayed. There are other examples. All that to say, the first thing they need after the loss is Trump to fade away over time. He might try to stay relevant in his social media platform, news outlets or something. But he'll no longer be a candidate and the pendulum will swing back to more classical conservative. Perhaps with mixing in some left-of-center and libertarian ideas or whatever they think will make them electable again. Back in late January 2020 we speculated that it was now or wait 10 years. Mitch chose "wait 10 years".
August 23, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I'll try and put a positive spin on things -- after Nixon resigned following Watergate, people thought the GOP was mortally wounded and would never recover. 6 years later Reagan won in a landslide. It will take another dynamic and charismatic leader -- in 1974, Reagan was finishing his second term as governor of CA and wasn't a name on the national stage politically. Hopefully there is someone out there that will emerge. Kemp, Youngkin and Sununu are three names I'd highlight, but it's probably someone completely unknown. Nixon did the honorable thing and resigned, thereby saving face somewhat for the party. Trump's crimes were not only much worse, but his insistence that he's still done nothing wrong drags everyone down with him and prolongs the possibilty of voters being able to look past an era of corruption unlike anything we've seen.
August 23, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, NOTW said: He might try to stay relevant in his social media platform, news outlets or something. But he'll no longer be a candidate and the pendulum will swing back to more classical conservative. Like vikas said, the only way this is possible is if he gets destroyed by massive margins (i.e. 2008.) Which I don't think is very likely to happen. Biden won with a 4.5pt margin nationally and Trump still slept walked his way to the nomination. Nobody had a snowball's chance in hell of unseating him.
August 23, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Perfect example of why Harris is going to kick Trump's ass. She is beating him at his own game.
August 23, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I mean he's not wrong. The DNC was camo hats, giant American flags, and USA chants for 4 straight days. It's one of the reasons the Trumpbots are either having toddler style meltdowns or just curling in fetal positions until the election is mercifully over.
August 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Like vikas said, the only way this is possible is if he gets destroyed by massive margins (i.e. 2008.) Which I don't think is very likely to happen. Biden won with a 4.5pt margin nationally and Trump still slept walked his way to the nomination. Nobody had a snowball's chance in hell of unseating him. Trump's 2028 campaign is going to be hilarious.
August 23, 20241 yr Sure, Donnie. We will just overlook everything you have said, done, and appointed on the matter to date.
August 23, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Gannan said: I mean he's not wrong. The DNC was camo hats, giant American flags, and USA chants for 4 straight days. It's one of the reasons the Trumpbots are either having toddler style meltdowns or just curling in fetal positions until the election is mercifully over. They've been doing a great job of tapping into the repubs that hate trump IMO It'll be very interesting to see how many registered repubs end up actually voting for her over trump
August 23, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: Trump's 2028 campaign is going to be hilarious. I just don’t see how Trump could run in 2028. Losing two elections, losing the popular vote in THREE elections, plus he’ll be in his 80s? Hopefully this is the last election cycle we’ll have to worry about a Trump Presidency.
August 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Sure, Donnie. We will just overlook everything you have said, done, and appointed on the matter to date. He is here. Methinks he's never going to make it to stage 5 though.
August 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said: I just don’t see how Trump could run in 2028. Losing two elections, losing the popular vote in THREE elections, plus he’ll be in his 80s? Hopefully this is the last election cycle we’ll have to worry about a Trump Presidency. I hope he gets disqualified before then
August 23, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, NOTW said: "Kamala won't do interviews!" Trump doing interviews: Seemed like a rare moment of humanity from him. It's good to be curious, and he didn't sound judgmental, so it's hard for me to knock him for that clip.
August 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Methinks he's never going to make it to stage 5 though. He's on a circle from 1-3
August 23, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said: I just don’t see how Trump could run in 2028. Losing two elections, losing the popular vote in THREE elections, plus he’ll be in his 80s? Hopefully this is the last election cycle we’ll have to worry about a Trump Presidency. People said this in 2020 too. When you're in a cult, it's much easier to look past election losses because you quite literally believe they're all rigged and stolen. Also, the age issue won't matter unless there's a global shortage of bronzer and hair dye. If he's alive, he's either the nominee or he'll be handpicking one. There is no other option. The party of Reagan is gone, this is the party of Trump for the foreseeable future.
August 23, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said: I just don’t see how Trump could run in 2028. Losing two elections, losing the popular vote in THREE elections, plus he’ll be in his 80s? Hopefully this is the last election cycle we’ll have to worry about a Trump Presidency. I'll take that bet. Unless he is assassinated by Soros dies he'll be the nominee in 2028. The RNC is stuck with him. Ya love to see it.
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