August 23, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Sure, Donnie. We will just overlook everything you have said, done, and appointed on the matter to date. He needs to change his campaign slogan from MAGA to "Trust me bro". Look at his platform... Quote Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion. (Trust me bro we will totally seal it) Carry out the largest deportation operation in American history (Trust me bro we will find the money to deport millions of people) End inflation, and make America affordable again (It will just magically end! Trust me bro!) Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far! (It will just magically happen! Trust me bro!) And now.... I will be great for women's reproductive rights even though I took them away last time. I totally will not be doing that again! Trust me bro!
August 23, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said: I just don’t see how Trump could run in 2028. Losing two elections, losing the popular vote in THREE elections, plus he’ll be in his 80s? Hopefully this is the last election cycle we’ll have to worry about a Trump Presidency. He's like Freddy Krueger. Every time you think he's dead he comes back for another scare. There will always be enough MAGA rubes to support another run.
August 23, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, Gannan said: I mean he's not wrong. The DNC was camo hats, giant American flags, and USA chants for 4 straight days. It's one of the reasons the Trumpbots are either having toddler style meltdowns or just curling in fetal positions until the election is mercifully over. I can't believe it took the Dems this long to realize it. I've been screaming for years that there's no downside to shoving patriotic symbolism down everyone's throats. There's no downside to actual patriotism either but the Dems took the mantle on that one a while ago (around the time Trump started trashing soldiers who were captured and the right cheered for it), but symbolism is a separate issue. Dems have thought for a while that they'd get credit for patriotism since the right had conceded it, but that's not how it works. It's an image game. It matters more about how you present yourself. So bring out the flags, chant USA. You lose nothing and it gains you a lot.
August 23, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: People said this in 2020 too. When you're in a cult, it's much easier to look past election losses because you quite literally believe they're all rigged and stolen. Also, the age issue won't matter unless there's a global shortage of bronzer and hair dye. If he's alive, he's either the nominee or he'll be handpicking one. There is no other option. The party of Reagan is gone, this is the party of Trump for the foreseeable future. It's a strange time in our country that I never thought I'd see. We have people on the left siding with Palestinians with a lot of ill feelings towards the state of Israel, and on the right, we have people trying to make it a theocracy, and both think it's good for our country. I can see him trying to run again in four years, but I can only see some of the party going along with it again if he loses. That will be four straight losses for him in 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2024. The cult people will be on 5th Avenue, but I'd be curious to see their percentage of the GOP voting block. Maybe 35%, which is still considerable. People like Youngkin were wise to stay out of it this year, but I don't think that will happen again. It wouldn't shock me to see him leave the party and start his own, but I doubt he'll have GOP next to his name. We'll see.
August 23, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: It's a strange time in our country that I never thought I'd see. We have people on the left siding with Palestinians with a lot of ill feelings towards the state of Israel, and on the right, we have people trying to make it a theocracy, and both think it's good for our country. I can see him trying to run again in four years, but I can only see some of the party going along with it again if he loses. That will be four straight losses for him in 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2024. The cult people will be on 5th Avenue, but I'd be curious to see their percentage of the GOP voting block. Maybe 35%, which is still considerable. People like Youngkin were wise to stay out of it this year, but I don't think that will happen again. It wouldn't shock me to see him leave the party and start his own, but I doubt he'll have GOP next to his name. We'll see. He only needs a plurality to win the nomination again. Also the threat of him running as a third party to play spoiler is going to be in play just as it was a back pocket threat this time around. And yes, before you even ask, he absolutely is that petty and vindictive, he doesn't care that doing so would guarantee another win for Dems, he doesn't care about any of that. He's only in it to stroke his own ego. He'll easily have the GOP next to his name again and Harris will skate to a second term as a result. You'll get another candidate in 2032, so hopefully they'll be smart enough to distance themselves from this dumpster fire to win back enough independents and conservatives to make a race out of it.
August 23, 20241 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: He only needs a plurality to win the nomination again. Also the threat of him running as an independent to play spoiler is going to be in play just as it was a backpocket threat this time around. And yes, before you even ask, he absolutely is that petty and vindictive, he doesn't care that doing so would guarantee another win for Dems, he doesn't care about any of that. He's only in it to stroke his own ego. He'll easily have the GOP next to his name again and Harris will skate to a second term as a result. You'll get another candidate in 2032, so hopefully they'll be smart enough to distance themselves from this dumpster fire to win back enough independents and conservatives to make a race out of it. 2032....how the heck is that less than ten years away? The way our country is going, who the heck knows what it will look like by then...
August 23, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: It's a strange time in our country that I never thought I'd see. We have people on the left siding with Palestinians with a lot of ill feelings towards the state of Israel I don't think that's true. I think those people aren't very happy with the left and right. I'm just certain that they think the right cares a lot less about their opinion.
August 23, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: He only needs a plurality to win the nomination again. Also the threat of him running as a third party to play spoiler is going to be in play just as it was a back pocket threat this time around. And yes, before you even ask, he absolutely is that petty and vindictive, he doesn't care that doing so would guarantee another win for Dems, he doesn't care about any of that. He's only in it to stroke his own ego. He'll easily have the GOP next to his name again and Harris will skate to a second term as a result. You'll get another candidate in 2032, so hopefully they'll be smart enough to distance themselves from this dumpster fire to win back enough independents and conservatives to make a race out of it. You need to add the qualifier that he may be in jail, or no longer on US soil if he flees. That may be the saving grace.
August 23, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I can't believe it took the Dems this long to realize it. I've been screaming for years that there's no downside to shoving patriotic symbolism down everyone's throats. There's no downside to actual patriotism either but the Dems took the mantle on that one a while ago (around the time Trump started trashing soldiers who were captured and the right cheered for it), but symbolism is a separate issue. Dems have thought for a while that they'd get credit for patriotism since the right had conceded it, but that's not how it works. It's an image game. It matters more about how you present yourself. So bring out the flags, chant USA. You lose nothing and it gains you a lot. That just wasn't an option on the left for a while there. It is good to see it now though.
August 23, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: You need to add the qualifier that he may be in jail, or no longer on US soil if he flees. That may be the saving grace. caracas or moscow?
August 23, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: You need to add the qualifier that he may be in jail, or no longer on US soil if he flees. That may be the saving grace. House arrest for a year at the absolute most. I'm not sure on how the SCOTUS ruling impacts the DC case. The FL case in theory isn't as impacted but the cultist judge there has been putting her thumb on the scale at every turn so I don't know why he'd flee when he's got a full blown cheerleader on the bench doing everything in her power to keep him viable.
August 23, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I don't think that's true. I think those people aren't very happy with the left and right. I'm just certain that they think the right cares a lot less about their opinion. I'm not sure I understand what you mean
August 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: I'm not sure I understand what you mean He's talking about the Palestinian protestors. They're not exactly core Dem voters. Not sure if they're voters at all honestly. Only reason they're protesting Dems right now and not Republicans is that they're hoping Dems will cave. But they haven't and clearly they're not going to.
August 23, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: That just wasn't an option on the left for a while there. It is good to see it now though. Why tho?
August 23, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, VanHammersly said: That IS abuse. If he keeps doing it how is the kid ever going to learn to not walk into teleprompters????? You hippies and complete lack of accountability
August 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: He's talking about the Palestinian protestors. They're not exactly core Dem voters. Not sure if they're voters at all honestly. Only reason they're protesting Dems right now and not Republicans is that they're hoping Dems will cave. But they haven't and clearly they're not going to. Exactly. I can assure you that people on the left are not "siding with Palestine".
August 23, 20241 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Why tho? I think it was just an item where the party didn't think they needed to upset their fringe. Turns out they should have been doing that all along.
August 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Exactly. I can assure you that people on the left are not "siding with Palestine". Agreed, only a small gaggle of Hamoss idiots
August 23, 20241 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: I think it was just an item where the party didn't think they needed to upset their fringe. Turns out they should have been doing that all along. So it was always an option, they just didn't do it.
August 23, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, NOTW said: Thank you for posting literally every clip I posted last night. What is this, the meme thread? AMIRITE?
August 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: So it was always an option, they just didn't do it. I don't think they thought it was a viable option, no. Not from say 2016 until about a year or two ago.
August 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Exactly. I can assure you that people on the left are not "siding with Palestine". When harris went both sides in her speech on the subject you heard equal cheers from different areas of the crowd. That's where the party is on this, split right down the middle and it will continue to be tight rope act to the election and beyond. BTW, I do agree with Trump, Shapiro is overrated. I'm just not digging his full on televangelist delivery, there were way more reasons than being Jewey to not take him.
August 23, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: I don't think they thought it was a viable option, no. Not from say 2016 until about a year or two ago. Nah. They always could've done it. They just thought it wasn't necessary. Trump had sheet on the troops, trashed POWs, had a public fued with a Gold Star Family, etc. They just thought people would assume they were the patriotic party and that being too public about it would be rubbing it in and in poor taste, but that was stupid and it allowed Republicans to claim patriotism while waving a flag but being wholly unpatriotic. They needed it to be explicit and they needed it to be symbolic. And I suppose it took Harris's ascension for them to finally figure it out.
August 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said: HOLY BALLS!! Just caught the kamala speech it was absolute fire. Ok, now I'm confused. I didn't watch but other people said it was good. And then you come in and post this so now I don't know what to think.
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