August 30, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Bloomberg polls are usually pretty good, but +9 in Wisconsin seems off. If he doesn't have a good debate he's in trouble.
August 30, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: If he doesn't have a good debate he's in trouble. Thankfully, he's an expert debater: young, knowledgeable, under control and sharp as a tac.
August 30, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I've spoken to a few people who know DeSantis, and they all agree he's an intelligent guy who just struggles to come across as an authentic person. Once he became a national name, he started with dumb stunts to get attention, and most of them were just stupid. The most obvious example was the fight with Disney...going to war with the state's largest employer, and somehow massively increasing the financial burden on taxpayers, was an interesting choice. He would have been better served waiting until 2028. Yeah he actually has some wit to him at times. Back when NY was saying that they were requiring people from Florida to quarantine for two weeks, he said that NY can do what they feel is necessary, but he then quipped that they shouldn't quarantine them in nursing homes. His charisma issues are fine at the state level, but watching him trying to be charismatic in the big leagues is almost as cringe as watching JD Vance try and tell a joke. You've gotta play to your strengths, and he just kept trying to force what he didn't have. Looking at any potential positive reaction in the GOP after a Trump loss, you've gotta assume that there would be a significant movement away from the populist BS (a boy can dream), but since he spent a good chunk of his time leaning into populism, he handicapped himself for '28. (Establishment just needs to lean into Haley if that's the case.)
August 30, 20241 yr Just now, Bill said: Yeah he actually has some wit to him at times. Back when NY was saying that they were requiring people from Florida to quarantine for two weeks, he said that NY can do what they feel is necessary, but he then quipped that they shouldn't quarantine them in nursing homes. His charisma issues are fine at the state level, but watching him trying to be charismatic in the big leagues is almost as cringe as watching JD Vance try and tell a joke. You've gotta play to your strengths, and he just kept trying to force what he didn't have. Looking at any potential positive reaction in the GOP after a Trump loss, you've gotta assume that there would be a significant movement away from the populist BS (a boy can dream), but since he spent a good chunk of his time leaning into populism, he handicapped himself for '28. (Establishment just needs to lean into Haley if that's the case.) The sad reality is, unless Trump is destroyed in this election, he is the presumptive 2028 nominee if he is alive. He needs to lose so badly that the GOP leadership (or the non-crazy ones that are left) finally ejects him and MAGA from the party. It's hard to see that happening.
August 30, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Paul852 said: If he doesn't have a good debate he's in trouble. Well, I think that most people aren't going to watch the debates anyway. But luckily the media has been producing nothing but hard hitting bangers over the last year, so I'm sure that if Trump has a poor showing, it'll be some front page, above the fold level reporting such that everyone will know about it.
August 30, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: The sad reality is, unless Trump is destroyed in this election, he is the presumptive 2028 nominee if he is alive. He needs to lose so badly that the GOP leadership (or the non-crazy ones that are left) finally ejects him and MAGA from the party. It's hard to see that happening. Oh, I'm fully prepared for me having to switch my registration from independent to Dem and just vote for centrists in the primaries if he doesn't lose in a landslide. I think in the run up to the '26 midterms we'll get an idea if the establishment took the reigns back or if the rubes are still running the show.
August 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: And if you read my other posts, I said she didn't do as badly as people suggested. She had some mistakes but was asked hard questions, and in general, I think if you like her, you think she did amazing. If you are on the other side, you think she did horrible. Others like me probably think it was OK or don't have much of a reaction. ok, I agree it was no master class. But to suggest or infer through reposts that she was cotton mouthed is straight up false. her answers were clean, she stayed on topic, she answered exactly the questions Republicans were asking. If it was light on substance or if she circled some points more than once, yeah sure.
August 30, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The sad reality is, unless Trump is destroyed in this election, he is the presumptive 2028 nominee if he is alive. He needs to lose so badly that the GOP leadership (or the non-crazy ones that are left) finally ejects him and MAGA from the party. It's hard to see that happening. Sadly for me. The GOP leadership has really lost their way.
August 30, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Oh no! A state Rep from (checks notes) Texas changes from Dem to Rep. what will the democrats do now??
August 30, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Captain F said: Except the interview was 17 minutes long. Deduct the time that Bash and Walz spoke, she talked for about 7 minutes.... After 2 months of nothing..7 minutes. For pre written answers to questions she was given in advance. Ya. She did great. Can any of you, without mentioning Trump, tell me why you're voting for ,Harris? I don't want to know why you aren't voting for Trump or why you hate him or what he did. Tell me what she did. Or what she is going to do, that's earning your vote. I think Ted Cruz said it best...
August 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: Let's just hit reset on the primaries, let Bernie Lomax get an extra year, let the courts continue on Trumps crimes, and start over. Guaranteed not to end up with a Harris vs Trump ballot. Unless he dies, it will still be Trump. He's going to lose, and 4 years from now it will still be Trump.
August 30, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: Unless he dies, it will still be Trump. He's going to lose, and 4 years from now it will still be Trump. I can’t wait to see what he is like at that point. Should be a complete mess.
August 30, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The sad reality is, unless Trump is destroyed in this election, he is the presumptive 2028 nominee if he is alive. He needs to lose so badly that the GOP leadership (or the non-crazy ones that are left) finally ejects him and MAGA from the party. It's hard to see that happening. Destroyed is a relative term because Republicans never get destroyed in elections the way Democrats do. 50 years ago the US electorate was so center-right leaning you had McGovern getting 17 electoral votes, Mondale getting 13. Jimmy Carter as an incumbent President only got 49 electoral votes! The worst a Republican candidate has been beaten in modern times was when the Obama phenomenon beat McCain 365-173; in Republican terms that's getting destroyed. H.W. Bush also only got 168 electoral votes when Clinton won, but there was the HUGE Ross Perot factor getting 19% of the popular vote, splitting conservative voters. I think Harris can get to a 319-219 win if she takes NV, NC, GA .... other than that, it will appear closer than it really is. IMO the math just doesn't work for Trump to be elected; he got elected in 2016 because people weren't energized enough to go out and vote for Hillary. They appear enthusiastic for this Harris/Walz ticket. My prediction is the federal DC and Florida cases will be Trump's undoing. That classified documents case will be reassigned to a qualified judge and Chutkin will keep the DC case on track. Those cases might force Trump out of the country for fear of incarceration. At least, that's my dream. I also don't believe Trump will still be alive in 2028.
August 30, 20241 yr 28 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The sad reality is, unless Trump is destroyed in this election, he is the presumptive 2028 nominee if he is alive. He needs to lose so badly that the GOP leadership (or the non-crazy ones that are left) finally ejects him and MAGA from the party. It's hard to see that happening. I actually think he's going to get completely destroyed. Harris is going to get over 300 electoral votes..... AND he's still going to be the gop nominee in 2028.
August 30, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Not wrong. People make fun of women because some of them take the rapist's side over another woman.
August 30, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I've spoken to a few people who know DeSantis, and they all agree he's an intelligent guy who just struggles to come across as an authentic person. Once he became a national name, he started with dumb stunts to get attention, and most of them were just stupid. The most obvious example was the fight with Disney...going to war with the state's largest employer, and somehow massively increasing the financial burden on taxpayers, was an interesting choice. He would have been better served waiting until 2028. Absolutely. I like the confidence trying to jump in, but unfortunately, nobody was stopping Trump in the GOP race this year. He needs to work on being more genuine for sure.
August 30, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: Not wrong. She's not wrong, but I've heard a few other sources saying the same thing, so she is just copying them.
August 30, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Nobody probably knows who she is, but she'll have to be mocked now because nobody leaves the reservation. She's right on many points, though. The same could be said about people like Gates or Boobert pulling the GOP in a direction that isn't good either.
August 30, 20241 yr What did the pre-Trump Republican party rule do for the country? We got the patriotic act. A lot of foreign wars that caused a refugee crisis in the middle east and gave rise ISIS? That's kind of the crowning achievement of the Bush years. I mean, sure, anything is preferable to having the country run by openly retarded communists, but this longing for the "pre-Trump" GOP is some of the dumbest stuff I've read in here.
August 30, 20241 yr Just now, Kz! said: What did the pre-Trump Republican party rule do for the country? We got the patriotic act. A lot of foreign wars that caused a refugee crisis in the middle east and gave rise ISIS? That's kind of the crowning achievement of the Bush years. I mean, sure, anything is preferable to having the country run by openly retarded communists, but this longing for the "pre-Trump" GOP is some of the dumbest stuff I've read in here. Yeah, Bush and Cheney did a lot of harm to this country so companies could make money on the wars.
August 30, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: I actually think he's going to get completely destroyed. Harris is going to get over 300 electoral votes..... AND he's still going to be the gop nominee in 2028. Yeah, I don't see how it makes a bit of difference how much he loses by. If you're going to convince yourself that it was rigged when he loses by 20 EV's, you'll be just as convinced that it was rigged if he loses by 100 EV's. It's not as if any of it is tied to reason. Their line of thinking is "If he loses, they cheated. It's the only explanation." So it's all the same. And just like the last time, we'll go through a period of a couple years where the right will pretend they're ready to move on from Trump but they'll largely ignore him while he's still all over the news, then they'll under perform once again in the mid-terms thanks to him and Republicans will state, unequivocally, that it's time for someone new and then he'll start the process of beating them into submission until they hand him the nomination and they don't even bother demanding that he debate or take any actual policy positions. Rinse and repeat.
August 30, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: What did the pre-Trump Republican party rule do for the country? We got the patriotic act. A lot of foreign wars that caused a refugee crisis in the middle east and gave rise ISIS? That's kind of the crowning achievement of the Bush years. I mean, sure, anything is preferable to having the country run by openly retarded communists, but this longing for the "pre-Trump" GOP is some of the dumbest stuff I've read in here. Republicans sucking pre-Trump has no bearing on how disastrously they've sucked since Trump came along.
August 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: Bloomberg polls are usually pretty good, but +9 in Wisconsin seems off. I'd be floored if she wins WI by more than 2pts. Meanwhile, MI by only 2pts seems low.
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