February 13, 20241 yr 50 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The liberal media is a loose group of people who consider themselves "serious journalists", but who no one takes seriously and pretty much everyone hates. If they wanted to hammer home how demented Trump is they could easily do it. But they don't. Liberal media does hammer Trump. But like you said, pretty much everyone despises them. Nobody listens. Mainstream media doesn't pick up on it. They will report conservative politicians railing on Biden's age because those politicians have nothing else to hammer on. While liberal politicians get more soundbites related to policy.
February 13, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, toolg said: Liberal media does hammer Trump. But like you said, pretty much everyone despises them. Nobody listens. Mainstream media doesn't pick up on it. They will report conservative politicians railing on Biden's age because those politicians have nothing else to hammer on. While liberal politicians get more soundbites related to policy. They're not disciplined. And they're not loyal. Those are their problems. Right wing "news" plays like North Korean propaganda when a Republican's in office. Always on message, constant defense mode. Liberal media doesn't. I'd love to live in a world where both sides of the media could give reasonable views that, even if they're slanted, try and stay true to a semblance of journalistic integrity, but those days are long gone. Fox buried all that in the 90's and the liberal media never effectively caught up. They should've dropped the facade a long time ago.
February 13, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: I agree. Both sides need a reset Another both sider, welcome
February 13, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: I actually think it's the other way around. It's not the right wing media's fault that the left wing media is so ineffective, undisciplined and disloyal. The right wing media is pure propaganda that sticks to coordinated talking points, stays on message and has a real effect. The liberal media is a loose group of people who consider themselves "serious journalists", but who no one takes seriously and pretty much everyone hates. If they wanted to hammer home how demented Trump is they could easily do it. But they don't. There is no left wing media. There are hard core right wing "news" outlets, and a bunch of "Dr. Philly" mainstream outlets that must twist themselves into a pretzel in order to "both sides" it. The net result is a media landscape that leans heavily right.
February 13, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Do you disagree? He wasn't being sarcastic. He means it literally. He would've said it more forcefully but he's a both-sider and ya'll aren't known for your conviction.
February 13, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He wasn't being sarcastic. He means it literally. He would've said it more forcefully but he's a both-sider and ya'll aren't known for your conviction. I don't keep up anymore with what side any of you are on
February 13, 20241 yr 40 minutes ago, Gannan said: There is no left wing media. There are hard core right wing "news" outlets, and a bunch of "Dr. Philly" mainstream outlets that must twist themselves into a pretzel in order to "both sides" it. The net result is a media landscape that leans heavily right. Well, the majority of the mainstream media outlets are what I'd consider left leaning. Also, I think you and I are pretty close in our general views though I choose to attack the left far more frequently than you do. We agree 100% on the idiocy of the right and both hate Trump.
February 13, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He wasn't being sarcastic. He means it literally. He would've said it more forcefully but he's a both-sider and ya'll aren't known for your conviction. You take the both sides position quite often yourself.
February 13, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: You take the both sides position quite often yourself. True, I'm fair. Tough but fair. Also benevolent, but humble.
February 13, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: True, I'm fair. Tough but fair. Also benevolent, but humble. Yes, very humble indeed
February 13, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Well, the majority of the mainstream media outlets are what I'd consider left leaning. Also, I think you and I are pretty close in our general views though I choose to attack the left far more frequently than you do. We agree 100% on the idiocy of the right and both hate Trump. Of course you would. However, the reality is that both sides are not the same. Joe Biden will leave when his term expires. The democrats are NOT talking about switching sides in the cold war or the legality of assassinating political rivals. The democrats haven't built a golden statue to Joe Biden that they worship. There is no comparison between the two. One is a misguided mainstream political party that albeit bad, is bad within acceptable levels. The other is a fascist death cult trying to end American democracy and install a game show host with dementia as fuhrer.
February 13, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Gannan said: Of course you would. However, the reality is that both sides are not the same. Joe Biden will leave when his term expires. The democrats are NOT talking about switching sides in the cold war or the legality of assassinating political rivals. The democrats haven't built a golden statue to Joe Biden that they worship. There is no comparison between the two. One is a misguided mainstream political party that albeit bad, is bad within acceptable levels. The other is a fascist death cult trying to end American democracy and install a game show host with dementia as fuhrer. Where did I ever say the two sides were "the same"? I agree with everything you say above. That doesn't mean I will ever give the left a free pass. I'm just as anti-Trump and idiot right MAGA as you are in here.
February 13, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Gannan said: The answer is the right wing media. They spend almost every hour of every day talking about how old Biden is. Trump's own dementia is rarely if ever even discussed. 3 hours ago, VanHammersly said: I actually think it's the other way around. It's not the right wing media's fault that the left wing media is so ineffective, undisciplined and disloyal. The right wing media is pure propaganda that sticks to coordinated talking points, stays on message and has a real effect. The liberal media is a loose group of people who consider themselves "serious journalists", but who no one takes seriously and pretty much everyone hates. If they wanted to hammer home how demented Trump is they could easily do it. But they don't. The left-wing/mainstream media is part of it, but the other issue is simple -- people are stupid, and Trump gives the appearance of youth and vigor. He's ranting and raving on stage for 90+ minutes, sweating and screaming. Now, most of what he says is dementia impacted imbecility, but nobody actually listens to what he is saying. If you point out that he is an idiot spouting insane ideas while having no mental capacity (can't tell the difference between Haley and Pelosi), his people will dismiss you as a left-wing, deep state loon. Meanwhile, Biden speaks slowly and has a stutter. He simply LOOKS every bit of his 81 years. We are a stupid country. Style is more important than substance. Trump looks like he has energy and ideas, so people ignore the fact that he is one of the dumbest people on the planet who is clearly in rapid cognitive decline.
February 13, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, toolg said: Pitchbot can't even compete with real headlines anymore Handing Nato to Putin. It's a National Security Threat and spits in the face of the Military and every man or women who served in Europe during WW2. It proves Trump is an enemy of the Military and Veterans.
February 13, 20241 yr I saw the movie American Fiction this past weekend and just now realized what it reminded me of. The New York Times Pitchbot. it’s kind of a dark comedy, but honestly is hilarious
February 13, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, Gannan said: Of course you would. However, the reality is that both sides are not the same. Joe Biden will leave when his term expires. The democrats are NOT talking about switching sides in the cold war or the legality of assassinating political rivals. The democrats haven't built a golden statue to Joe Biden that they worship. There is no comparison between the two. One is a misguided mainstream political party that albeit bad, is bad within acceptable levels. The other is a fascist death cult trying to end American democracy and install a game show host with dementia as fuhrer. Trump literally left office. You have severe, terminal TDS
February 13, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, vikas83 said: The left-wing/mainstream media is part of it, but the other issue is simple -- people are stupid, and Trump gives the appearance of youth and vigor. He's ranting and raving on stage for 90+ minutes, sweating and screaming. Now, most of what he says is dementia impacted imbecility, but nobody actually listens to what he is saying. If you point out that he is an idiot spouting insane ideas while having no mental capacity (can't tell the difference between Haley and Pelosi), his people will dismiss you as a left-wing, deep state loon. Meanwhile, Biden speaks slowly and has a stutter. He simply LOOKS every bit of his 81 years. We are a stupid country. Style is more important than substance. Trump looks like he has energy and ideas, so people ignore the fact that he is one of the dumbest people on the planet who is clearly in rapid cognitive decline. This is ridiculous. Ever sane person in this country can see that Biden is FAR more senile than Trump. Biden isn't just slow and stuttering, he's rapidly losing his mental capacity for the job. Wake up.
February 13, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Another both sider, welcome How many of y’all does it take to screw in a light bulb?
February 13, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Trump literally left office. You have severe, terminal TDS After he tried to stage a coup d'état and have his vice president murdered when he wouldn't take part in it. Great flex dude
February 14, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, Gannan said: There is no left wing media. There are hard core right wing "news" outlets, and a bunch of "Dr. Philly" mainstream outlets that must twist themselves into a pretzel in order to "both sides" it. The net result is a media landscape that leans heavily right.
February 14, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: After he tried to stage a coup d'état and have his vice president murdered when he wouldn't take part in it. Great flex dude We came so close to losing our precious democracy when those people walked through that building! It was hanging by a thread!
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