8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Sorry to say, that is quite a silly hill to die on.  I'm not here to get you to move off of that hill but it is really dumb for you to stand on it.  Trump not only lost the election but there was also no structural cheating going on anywhere to any level significant enough to swing states.  If you can't accept that then I don't know what to tell you.  Stay up on that hill.

Damn that’s kind of harsh lol

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I think it goes beyond immaturity... People like diehard and zuke literally can't bring themselves to concede that Trump lied about a stolen election because that means they'd have to face the reality that they got taken by one of the dumbest conmen in American history. Their whole identity is built on being street smart and yet they couldn't see this obvious scam a mile away even after so many people were trying to tell them it was a scam. Even 4 years later, they still have to keep up the charade that "dems cheated too!" because their psyche wouldn't survive admitting what's obvious to every sentient person on the planet.

4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Damn that’s kind of harsh lol

Sometimes you just gotta call it

24 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

It'd be a lot easier to respect your opinions if you backed them up with facts man. After the last election there were literal millions of dollars put into investigating the calls of election fraud coming from the MAGA crew. Partisan people trying to prove their own truth and even still they came up with nothing. 

I'm not trying to sway anyone. My opinions are my opinions. 

18 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Sorry to say, that is quite a silly hill to die on.  I'm not here to get you to move off of that hill but it is really dumb for you to stand on it.  Trump not only lost the election but there was also no structural cheating going on anywhere to any level significant enough to swing states.  If you can't accept that then I don't know what to tell you.  Stay up on that hill.

 

Beautiful view up here. I think I'll stay 

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm not trying to sway anyone. My opinions are my opinions. 

Yeah, well.  Some people also have the opinion that the earth is flat.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

 

Beautiful view up here. I think I'll stay 

Ok fair enough. 

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Yeah, well.  Some people also have the opinion that the earth is flat.

Yeah. They do. Up to them

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm not trying to sway anyone. My opinions are my opinions. 

You opinions about election security and fraud are based on flat out lies, and have absolutely no factual basis. 

47 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Enough to swing states? I'm not sure, and nothing is moving me off that

2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

You opinions about election security and fraud are based on flat out lies, and have absolutely no factual basis. 

OK. We disagree. I moved on from this last week but I guess people are still triggered that I have my own opinion that I'm not trying to sway anyone to. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

I know I'm just busting balls. Making fun on the fact that there is literally no context in which the current Democratic party "cheats" more than the Republican party when it comes to elections. It's a laughable premise to act indignant over Democratic election fraud and yet, here we are. 

Do you think the Democratic Party would ever cheat in a Philly local election?  In a Chicago local election?  Impossible, right?

Politics is filthy by its very nature.  But the Dems have established party machines at the municipal, state and federal levels and are adept at cheating.  And FWIW, when the cities were controlled by Republican machines many years ago, the Republicans also cheated.

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Yeah, well.  Some people also have the opinion that the earth is flat.

Or that Palestein is a noble cause. Good thing over here opinions aren't death sentences.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm not trying to sway anyone. My opinions are my opinions. 

If your opinions are fixed despite a thorough lack of supporting evidence then fine. Live your life. But asking people here to "respect" them...no.  Sorry 🤷

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If your opinions are fixed despite a thorough lack of supporting evidence then fine. Live your life. But asking people here to "respect" them...no.  Sorry 🤷

I don't expect you to. I said if people have a problem with them too bad. There is hatred on here for people and that I don't get like this morning with the unpatriotic stuff. 

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Again, my actions from election night until now should speak for themselves. I don't have to swear an oath like it's a McCarthy hearing. I said he lost on election night and wished you all well and haven't ****ed about it since. Do I think Dems cheat as I said last week? Absolutely. Enough to swing states? I'm not sure, and nothing is moving me off that. It's not deflection. Again, my actions from election night until now should speak for themselves. Respect my opinions or don't, but I'm not swearing some BS oath to make people like me. 

Given the evidence and indictments, it's far more likely Republicans are winning elections they shouldn't than Democrats.

Diehard, the main issue people have here is that you're coming to conclusions not based on verifiable factual evidence but rather by the narrative and feelings that coverage engenders. 

The former is more resistant to manipulation. The latter has an entire industry behind it built around manipulation. 

If Dems are cheating they should be prosecuted and run out.

But the facts uncovered by law enforcement, which for whatever it's worth skews right, show that electoral fraud is very heavily skewed toward the right. 

Trump ****es and moans because that's his MO - play the victim of things don't go your way. Which is everything the right has long accused the left of. 

It's baffling to me that a whiny biznitch like Trump has captured the right. But here we are.

I don't love Kamala, but she represents a much more mainstream opinion than Trump. And that's more than enough for me to choose her over the alternative.

If Trump is elected I truly fear for our future as a nation. I don't know if we can survive another four years of him.

36 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Or that Palestein is a noble cause. Good thing over here opinions aren't death sentences.

I’ve never said it was a noble cause.  I have said that the indigenous population are victims of settler colonialism.  Some have resorted to terrorism, which I don’t necessarily agree with.  But I also don’t agree with the wanton bombing of an urban area.  Go figure…

https://nypost.com/2024/09/08/us-news/donald-trump-pulls-aheads-of-kamala-harris-in-major-new-poll-after-weeks-of-trailing-her/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter

Donald Trump pulls ahead of Kamala Harris in major poll — a sign her campaign is fizzling

By  Ryan King

Published Sep. 8, 2024, 8:13 a.m. ET

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

Trump is creeping up on Hillary '16 levels. 

26 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Diehard, the main issue people have here is that you're coming to conclusions not based on verifiable factual evidence but rather by the narrative and feelings that coverage engenders. 

The former is more resistant to manipulation. The latter has an entire industry behind it built around manipulation. 

If Dems are cheating they should be prosecuted and run out.

But the facts uncovered by law enforcement, which for whatever it's worth skews right, show that electoral fraud is very heavily skewed toward the right. 

Trump ****es and moans because that's his MO - play the victim of things don't go your way. Which is everything the right has long accused the left of. 

It's baffling to me that a whiny biznitch like Trump has captured the right. But here we are.

I don't love Kamala, but she represents a much more mainstream opinion than Trump. And that's more than enough for me to choose her over the alternative.

If Trump is elected I truly fear for our future as a nation. I don't know if we can survive another four years of him.

That's fine. I get it. I'm not in here to fight about it or to degrade anyone for thinking different or to try to change minds. My personal feeling that could be wrong is what it is. At the end if the day what I think that I'm not trying to convince anyone of doesn't matter. I made a statement in passing last week and had already moved past it.

I get people's fears and they are on the other side as well. I mean it when I say on election night I'll be wishing you all well and praying for her cause I do expect her to win and I hate her. We are all in this together and I don't see the people on here as my enemy. Just people doing the best with that they believe. 

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

If your opinions are fixed despite a thorough lack of supporting evidence then fine. Live your life. But asking people here to "respect" them...no.  Sorry 🤷

I'm not here for anyone's respect. I know what many think of my opinions, and I'm not worried about it or trying to change that even if I sometimes fight for what I believe. I'm here cause I like most of you and enjoy chatting. 

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

If your opinions are fixed despite a thorough lack of supporting evidence then fine. Live your life. But asking people here to "respect" them...no.  Sorry 🤷

I've been typing on the go all day but I remember saying I respect other's opinions not asking for it in return, and saying if people don't like mine that's their problem. I'd have left a long time ago if I expected it.