September 21, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, Diehardfan said: She is begging for the debate. Not him. They take internal polls. If she is up she wouldn't be. They know she needs it. You certainly wouldn't chance crap that close to the election and let someone back into the game if it was going your way. Do I think she needs it? No, I expect her to win no matter what happens. Of course she'd love another debate, and he wants to avoid one. The first one was a total crap show for Trump. He stepped on every rake laid out before him, then stepped on some he himself placed. Debates don't usually move the needle, but Trump got his ass handed to him so bad another closer to election day would be really good for Kamala if she can bait him into stupidity again. Nothing about that debate felt rigged. Everything negative that happened to Trump was his own doing. That debate was not about a good showing from Kamala, it was about a tired and beaten old man losing his composure under the bare minimum of checking. When he's not surrounded by sycophants and yes men he crumbles.
September 21, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Or I acceptance results until the laws are changed and move on. I think you are in denial along with many, but I let it go. The only way Trump wins is if it's a wave bigger than 16 because he is playing the Chiefs in Arrowhead. Dude, without the electoral college this election would be well over. It's only the fact that a huge number of low population states skew heavily Red that a guy like Trump has any chance at all. The system is biased against Democrats (as the parties are currently constructed). Not the other way around.
September 21, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Well then I guess it's good for her. You should be happy. Kamala supporters and Never Trumpers alike would LOVE to see him embarrass himself again. Absolutely.
September 21, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: Do know you can volunteer to be a poll worker? Do you know that your neighbors are the backbone to the election process? Do you know that you have to provide ID to register to vote, or the first time you vote at your precinct? In Utah it appears you need photo ID or you have to cast a provisional ballot, but I'm not sure.
September 21, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: Depends on more information. Trump has been president and did a good job even if he isn't a great person. What he did (and didn't do) on January 6th, and what he did in withholding documents for 18 months - documents that may well have exposed US agents overseas to danger, even death - should disqualify him from ever holding any office. You can dislike Kamala. But supporting Trump means being ok with what happened January 6th and how he conducts himself.
September 21, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: What he did (and didn't do) on January 6th, and what he did in withholding documents for 18 months - documents that may well have exposed US agents overseas to danger, even death - should disqualify him from ever holding any office. You can dislike Kamala. But supporting Trump means being ok with what happened January 6th and how he conducts himself. I guess it does vs her. I'm not changing my mind same as you. We are both trying to make the right choices for our families. I know you are worried about them from what you said.
September 22, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: He said nobody complained about election security, you chuckle F. The legal disputes that happened in 2000 was not about election security, nobody was claiming there were Chinese ballots with bamboo fibers or hacked voting machines. Read more, post less. Also, after Gore challenged the results in Florida State courts, the case was taken by SCOTUS on Equal Protection Grounds. And when SCOTUS ruled against Gore he...[checks notes]...conceded the election and asked the country to support President elect Bush. The unbelievable levels of hypocrisy and flat out stupidity required to support Trump are amazing.
September 22, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, DEagle7 said: RFK Jr's future department. Lovely. So absurd its both hilarious and awful at the same time
September 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Dude, without the electoral college this election would be well over. It's only the fact that a huge number of low population states skew heavily Red that a guy like Trump has any chance at all. The system is biased against Democrats (as the parties are currently constructed). Not the other way around. Which is the genius behind it. To prevent mob rule
September 22, 20241 yr 38 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Also, after Gore challenged the results in Florida State courts, the case was taken by SCOTUS on Equal Protection Grounds. And when SCOTUS ruled against Gore he...[checks notes]...conceded the election and asked the country to support President elect Bush. The unbelievable levels of hypocrisy and flat out stupidity required to support Trump are amazing. I think that gives Gore and more importantly the dem party far too much credit you still have morons like Moss spouting the selected not elected stupidity which is the same as the rigged idiocy
September 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: I guess it does vs her. I'm not changing my mind same as you. We are both trying to make the right choices for our families. It ain’t just about family.
September 22, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: I think that gives Gore and more importantly the dem party far too much credit you still have morons like Moss spouting the selected not elected stupidity which is the same as the rigged idiocy The Supreme Court chose the President 5-4
September 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Kamala supporters and Never Trumpers alike would LOVE to see him embarrass himself again. Absolutely. Yeah. Despite ABC carrying Harris on their shoulders she hasn't been able to do s*** with it. Personally I wouldn't touch CNN if I were Trump's campaign. Donna already got busted carrying Hillary the last time.
September 22, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: The Supreme Court chose the President 5-4 Didn’t they just stop the 50th recount?
September 22, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: It ain’t just about family. Correct we do not consider you a valuable piece of the american family
September 22, 20241 yr As for some polls suggesting Kamala Harris is leading in his state, Fetterman expressed skepticism and recalled similar polls in 2016 that showed Hillary Clinton leading in PA by seven points yet President Trump won the state. "Everybody thought that it was in the bag, but that’s not the energy and the other kinds of things that were really consistent with what I’m witnessing all across,” Fetterman said. "And then, sadly, we saw what happened.”
September 22, 20241 yr Policy flip-flops have put Vice President Kamala Harris in the hot seat in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania, with energy workers telling Fox News that "nobody believes" her change of heart on fracking.
September 22, 20241 yr Let's go bowling! CVON bowling night! Who's in? Who wants a thumb and forefinger in a big round black thing? Stedman? You in, Stedman? maybe... Gayle?
September 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: Also, after Gore challenged the results in Florida State courts, the case was taken by SCOTUS on Equal Protection Grounds. And when SCOTUS ruled against Gore he...[checks notes]...conceded the election and asked the country to support President elect Bush. The unbelievable levels of hypocrisy and flat out stupidity required to support Trump are amazing. If the Supreme Court allowed Florida to continue the recount and Gore was allowed to win the election that he rightfully won, the world would be a much better place today.
September 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: I think that gives Gore and more importantly the dem party far too much credit you still have morons like Moss spouting the selected not elected stupidity which is the same as the rigged idiocy Nothing Vikas said was wrong. It's ok to recognize that previous presidents were often fundamentally decent people. Political killers all - especially those who served as president - but being fundamentally decent and politically dogged are not mutually exclusive.
September 22, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: If the Supreme Court allowed Florida to continue the recount and Gore was allowed to win the election that he rightfully won, the world would be a much better place today. Procus is Moss! Moss is Procus!
September 22, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Nothing Vikas said was wrong. It's ok to recognize that previous presidents were often fundamentally decent people. Political killers all - especially those who served as president - but being fundamentally decent and politically dogged are not mutually exclusive. Pretty much how I feel about Bush.
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