The Official: Good Ole Sleepy/Creepy Joe: sniffs, grips and slips

[Ialone]

A place to Post any and all of Joe's inappropriate behavior, and all of his mumbling Gaffs, and any other things you find funny....

 

[Gannan]

[Abracadabra]

[PoconoDon]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu**

I'm out of likes.

[mr_hunt]

[jsdarkstar]

Talk about creepy.

[Outlaw]

On 4/21/2020 at 10:51 PM, jsdarkstar said:

Talk about creepy.

That lucky son of a ****. 

[iladelphxx]

 

 

[Outlaw]

Where are all the #metoo Kavanaugh haters when we have a corroborated accusation against a prominent Leftie?

[Paul852]

8 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Where are all the #metoo Kavanaugh haters when we have a corroborated accusation against a prominent Leftie?

Serious question, were there any Kavanaugh haters here? I can't think of many people railing against him.

[Outlaw]

54 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Serious question, were there any Kavanaugh haters here? I can't think of many people railing against him.

Meant in the general public not just the EMB. 

[VanHammersly]

A breakdown of the Tara Reade thing.  It's about as flimsy and questionable as an accusation gets.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/?fbclid=IwAR0dbcje8-eykcRPABK6eF1TaV3v6X5rnMxzrstOEYWXTCDBalXst4l2yAM

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►Delayed reporting … twice. Reade waited 27 years to publicly report her allegation that Biden sexually assaulted her. I understand that victims of sexual assault often do not come forward immediately because recounting the most violent and degrading experience of their lives, to a bunch of strangers, is the proverbial insult to injury. That so many women were willing to wait in my dreary government office, as I ran to the restroom to pull myself together after listening to their stories, is a testament to their fortitude. 

Even so, it is reasonable to consider a 27-year reporting delay when assessing the believability of any criminal allegation. More significant perhaps, is Reade’s decision to sit down with a newspaper last year and accuse Biden of touching her in a sexual way that made her uncomfortable — but neglect to mention her claim that he forcibly penetrated her with his fingers. 

►Implausible explanation for changing story. When Reade went public with her sexual assault allegation in March, she said she wanted to do it in an interview with The Union newspaper in California last April. She said the reporter’s tone made her feel uncomfortable and "I just really got shut down” and didn't tell the whole story.

It is hard to believe a reporter would discourage this kind of scoop. Regardless, it's also hard to accept that it took Reade 12 months to find another reporter eager to break that bombshell story. This unlikely explanation damages her credibility.

►People who contradict Reade’s claim. After the alleged assault, Reade said she complained about Biden's harassment to Marianne Baker, Biden’s executive assistant, as well as to top aides Dennis Toner and Ted Kaufman. All three Biden staffers recently told The New York Times that she made no complaint to them.

And they did not offer the standard, noncommittal "I don’t remember any such complaint.” The denials were firm. "She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her,” Kaufman said. Toner made a similar statement. And from Baker: "I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct (by Biden), period." Baker said such a complaint, had Reade made it, "would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager.” 

►Missing formal complaint. Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.

►The lie about losing her job. Reade told The Union that Biden wanted her to serve drinks at an event. After she refused, "she felt pushed out and left Biden's employ," the newspaper said last April. But Reade claimed this month in her Times interview that after she filed a sexual harassment complaint with the Senate personnel office, she faced retaliation and was fired by Biden’s chief of staff.

 

TL;DR version: she says she was assaulted (after never mentioning it for almost 30 years, despite talking about that time over and over again publicly) and that she told 3 people about it (despite those people saying she didn't) and then she filed a formal complaint about it (though that complaint doesn't exist) and then she was fired over it (though that's not why she said she was fired as recently as a year ago).  

The article goes on to talk about these new people (two anonymous friends and her brother) that claim she mentioned something at the time (though her brother suddenly changed his story after his initial interview from Biden just giving her a back rub to Biden assaulting her) and it also talks about the Larry King caller (that Reade claims is her mother, though there's no way to verify it and she doesn't even mention anything about assault.  And then it also goes into her Putin infatuation how this all came about once Reade became a Bernie Bro and curiously stopped publicly praising Biden and started attacking him.

[Gannan]

On 4/27/2020 at 9:12 PM, Outlaw said:

Where are all the #metoo Kavanaugh haters when we have a corroborated accusation against a prominent Leftie?

Remember when Kavenaugh was VP for 8 years and no one accused him of anything the entire time? 

[Gannan]

How many women have accused Trump of sexual assault? I think it's over a dozen. Why does Reade matter but Trump's accusers don't? Oh yeah, because Trumpbots. 

[VanHammersly]

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

How many women have accused Trump of sexual assault? I think it's over a dozen. Why does Reade matter but Trump's accusers don't? Oh yeah, because Trumpbots. 

It's over 20.  One accused him of raping her when she was 13.  Trumpbots now say believe all women, so I guess they're conceding that Trump's a child rapist.

[Gannan]

The other funny part of the story is that the supposed witness says she's voting for Biden anyway 

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LaCasse said Reade was very upset during their conversation and she tried to comfort her; LaCasse also recalls advising her to file a police report.

LaCasse described herself as a "very strong Democrat," who supported Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren during the primaries and intends to support Biden in the general election.

She said she felt compelled to share "the truth" despite her personal politics.

When asked how she reconciles voting for someone she believes assaulted her old friend, LaCasse explained, "Biden isn't a bad guy. I think he's an OK guy. He just has this — this just happened."

 

[Outlaw]

22 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Remember when Kavenaugh was VP for 8 years and no one accused him of anything the entire time? 

No but Pepperidge Farm remembers when he was a federal judge for longer than that.

21 minutes ago, Gannan said:

How many women have accused Trump of sexual assault? I think it's over a dozen. Why does Reade matter but Trump's accusers don't? Oh yeah, because Trumpbots. 

But TRUMP!

19 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

It's over 20.  One accused him of raping her when she was 13.  Trumpbots now say believe all women, so I guess they're conceding that Trump's a child rapist.

Who said anything about believing her?  Just think it should be looked into, just like any accusation against anyone should be.

[mr_hunt]

all these cases need to be looked into of there's enough evidence to warrant it.  you can't assume guilt for those accused though. 

[VanHammersly]

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Who said anything about believing her?  Just think it should be looked into, just like any accusation against anyone should be.

Looked into by who?  

The police?  We're way past the statute of limitations, so there's nothing to look into.

The press?  The press already is looking into it, hence me posting an article about it.  

Congress?  Congress hasn't looked into the 20+ assault and 3 rape accusations by the President, why would they do it for a former VP/Senator?

[Outlaw]

35 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Looked into by who?  

The police?  We're way past the statute of limitations, so there's nothing to look into.

The press?  The press already is looking into it, hence me posting an article about it.  

Congress?  Congress hasn't looked into the 20+ assault and 3 rape accusations by the President, why would they do it for a former VP/Senator?

So you think this is getting the same full court "press” that Kavanaugh did?  Really?

[Outlaw]

42 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

all these cases need to be looked into of there's enough evidence to warrant it.  you can't assume guilt for those accused though. 

Completely agreed.  I think the timing is suspect.  But it's also hilarious he's doing Town Halls about #metoo while he's being accused.

[L.E]

Not long now until that's President Biden to you.

[Outlaw]

1 minute ago, L.E said:

Not long now until that's President Biden to you.

Well, to be fair...it's supposed to be President Clinton right now too.  I think either side getting cocky this early is ludicrous.

[VanHammersly]

11 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

So you think this is getting the same full court "press” that Kavanaugh did?  Really?

Ah, okay, so you're not concerned about knowing the truth, you're just concerned that it's not getting enough "press coverage".  Got it.

Also, not sure if you've heard, but there's a global pandemic going on that's taken the lives of over 60k Americans and put millions out of work.  I can't say for sure, but I think it's more important to the American people than a flimsy accusation from 30 years go.

[mr_hunt]

40 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Looked into by who?  

The police?  We're way past the statute of limitations, so there's nothing to look into.

The press?  The press already is looking into it, hence me posting an article about it.  

Congress?  Congress hasn't looked into the 20+ assault and 3 rape accusations by the President, why would they do it for a former VP/Senator?

good point,.  i mean, if it's reported to the police & within the statute of limitations, i think they should at least look into these claims if they find them believable.  if it's just a claim made publicly, the press could choose to look into if they want...you'll get a lot of political spin though.

 kav is brought up a lot..difference with him is that he was in the middle of a hearing where everything about him was being analyzed....so they were naturally going to dig deep into his accusations & everything else...it's what the senate does when there's a scotus nomination.   

idk who's "job" it would be to investigation the biden accusations.