EaglesRocker97 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Gannan said: Let it go dude 28 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Are we playing pretend in here? Cool. I think Obama’s gonna surprise us all and jump in the ring for a third term. I just want to win. I'm feeling less and less confident in Biden's ability to to do that.
L.E Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 The problem with using this scandal against Biden is Republicans just spent the last handful of years shitting all over the #MeToo movement, victim-blaming both Trump's and Kavanaugh's accusers and now suddenly they give a crap? Nobody buys it. 1
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I just want to win. I'm feeling less and less confident in Biden's ability to to do that. He's leading in every single state he needs to win the election, some by a sizable margin, and leading in some states he doesn't even need. And Trump has steered the country into a depression. What more do you need? 1
Blazehound Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: What more do you need? Creepy Joe to stop sniffing young women and children. In other words, the point of this thread. 3
The_Omega Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 I wonder how much that sleazebag Trump is paying these women to smear this paragon of integrity Quote 8. Ally Coll, a former Democratic staffer During the 2008 election cycle, Ally Coll was helping run a reception for about 50 people. After Biden arrived she was introduced to him, and, according to her, Biden "leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile, holding her ‘for a beat too long.’” "There’s been a lack of understanding about the way that power can turn something that might seem innocuous into something that can make somebody feel uncomfortable,” said Coll. 7. Amy Lappos, a former congressional aide Amy Lappos, a Democratic political activist claimed that during a 2009 political fundraiser in Greenwich, Connecticut for U.S. Rep. Jim Himes then-Vice President Joe Biden touched her inappropriately. "It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head,” Lappos told the Hartford Courant last year. "He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.” "I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody,” Lappos explained. "There’s absolutely a line of decency. There’s a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It’s not cultural. It’s not affection. It’s sexism or misogyny.” 6. Caitlyn Caruso, a college student and sexual assault survivor Four years ago, at the age of 19, Caitlyn Caruso, a survivor of sexual assault, spoke at an event on sexual assault at the University of Las Vegas, which Joe Biden was also attending. Caruso says that after sharing her experience with sexual assault, Biden "rested his hand on her thigh — even as she squirmed in her seat to show her discomfort—and hugged her ‘just a little bit too long’.” "It doesn’t even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetuate harm like that,” she said. "These are supposed to be people you can trust.” 5. D. J. Hill, a writer Ms. Hill met Biden at a 2012 fundraiser in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and during a photo-op with the then-vice president he put his hand on her shoulder and starting lowering it down her back, making her feel "very uncomfortable.” Hill’s husband noticed Biden’s maneuver and protected his wife by putting his own hand on Biden’s shoulder and telling a joke. Ms. Hill didn’t say anything at the time and doesn’t know what his intent was, or if he was aware of her discomfort. "Only he knows his intent,” she told the New York Times. "But norms are changing now, she said, and "if something makes you feel uncomfortable, you have to feel able to say it.” 4. Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former White House intern Vail Kohnert-Yount was a White House intern and says that in the spring of 2013 while trying to exit the basement of the West Wing she was asked to step aside to allow for Joe Biden to enter. After moving out of the way, Biden approached her to shake her hand and introduce himself. During this encounter, she says Biden "put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead,” and called her "a pretty girl.” She says she was shocked by the incident, describing it as "the kind of inappropriate behavior that makes many women feel uncomfortable and unequal in the workplace.” 3. Lucy Flores, a former Nevada state assemblywoman Lucy Flores wrote an essay describing her experience with Joe Biden at a 2014 campaign rally, during which she says Biden touched her inappropriately and kissed her on the head. "Just before the speeches, we were ushered to the side of the stage where we were lined up by order of introduction. As I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd, I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. Why is the vice-president of the United States touching me? "I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, "I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual F? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?” He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused.” Flores said she "wanted nothing more” than to get Biden away from her. When her name was called, she says she was "never happier to get on stage in front of an audience.” 2. Sofie Karasek, a sexual assault survivor In 2016, Sofie Karasek was one of 50 sexual assault survivors who appeared on stage with Lady Gaga at the Oscars. Joe Biden had introduced Lady Gaga on stage. After the ceremony, Karasek shared with Biden a story about a college student who committed suicide after being sexually assaulted, and Biden, according to the Washington Post, "responded by clasping her hands and leaning down to place his forehead against hers.” The moment was photographed and went viral, but it was actually an uncomfortable moment for Karasek. She says it felt awkward and uncomfortable having their faces mere inches apart and she didn’t know how to respond to it, but she described it as Biden "crossing the boundary into her personal space at a sensitive moment.” "He emphasized that he wants to connect with people and, of course, that’s important. But again, all of our interactions and friendships are a two-way street. … Too often it doesn’t matter how the woman feels about it or they just assume that they’re fine with it,” she said. 1. Tara Reade, a former Biden Senate staffer Tara Reade’s allegations are perhaps the first to gain traction in the media. In 2019, she saidthat Biden used to touch her inappropriately while she was a staffer in his Senate office in 1993. "He used to put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck,” Reade said. "I would just kind of freeze and wait for him to stop doing that.” She has since expanded on those allegations, claiming in March 2020 that Biden sexually assaulted her by pushing her up against the wall, kissing her and sliding his hand up her shirt and up her skirt. Reade attempted to file a claim, but Biden was ultimately protected by loyalists on his staff. The credibility of her claims was boosted by the release of a clip of the Larry King Live show during which her mother called in anonymously asking the panel for advice on how to handle a situation with her daughter and a prominent U.S. Senator. 2
hukdonfoniks Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, L.E said: The problem with using this scandal against Biden is Republicans just spent the last handful of years shitting all over the #MeToo movement, victim-blaming both Trump's and Kavanaugh's accusers and now suddenly they give a crap? Nobody buys it. Still gonna vote for Biden?
Gannan Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I just want to win. I'm feeling less and less confident in Biden's ability to to do that. Trump just threatened to sue his campaign manager because he showed him poll numbers. Everything is beautiful. Relax. 1
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Blazehound said: Creepy Joe to stop sniffing young women and children. In other words, the point of this thread.
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Quiet Boy said: The Republicans asked for proof. The Democrats said, "Believe all women!" Now with the roles reversed the Republicans want the Democrats to keep that same energy. It seems like a pretty fair expectation. Republicans spent months during the Kavanaugh hearing saying that using an unproven 30 year old accusation was a callous political hit-job and the lowest political attack you could make. They were also seriously concerned that every man in America was now under attack. Here's just a few examples. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/men-must-defend-brett-kavanaugh-and-stop-kowtowing-to-left-wing-women Quote Men, do not shut up. Speak up. Speak up loud and clear. Tell the women who've been conditioned to think ill of men and of society that they're wrong. Tell the women that while some people, of both sexes, do bad things, men as a whole are good and want nothing but the best for women. Tell women that due process is still the law of the land and that each case must be measured based on its own merit. Tell women they cannot treat men as if they are all threats or possessed by evil. Tell women, as Brett Kavanaugh did, that you "will not be intimidated." https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/conservative-women-kavanaugh-ford/572023/ Quote "It’s a disservice to women that have had horrific stories,” she says. She was open to believing Ford: "It doesn’t matter to me if it’s Bill Clinton or Brett Kavanaugh. We want to make sure that sexual predators are dealt with.” But like other women I interviewed, Lee believes the professor’s account is faulty, and that Democrats are using her for their own political ends. "This whole process, to me, comes across as something that has been crassly weaponized for political purposes,” says Kathleen Hunt, a political donor in Florida who spent 20 years in the CIA. https://newrepublic.com/article/151509/brett-kavanaugh-new-face-mens-rights Quote The Trump men are very worried about the fate of their kind. Before he boarded Air Force One on Tuesday, President Donald Trump was asked by a reporter, "What do you say to young men in America?” He replied, "Well, I’d say that it’s a very scary time for young men in America when you can be guilty of something you may not be guilty of.” Trump was echoing the words of his eldest son, who the previous day told an interviewer, "I’ve got boys and I’ve got girls and when I see what’s going on now, it’s scary for all things.” Asked if he feared more for his daughters or his sons, Trump Jr. said, "Right now, I’d say my sons.” I'm just looking for Republicans to keep that same energy. Seems like a pretty fair expectation. 1 1
The_Omega Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 They won’t. They never do. They’re not like Democrats who, thankfully, refuse to relax their standards for political expediency.
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: They won’t. They never do. They’re not like Democrats who, thankfully, refuse to relax their standards for political expediency. I realize you're making a joke, Zucker, but Democrats actually have gone down for these scandals. Franken may very well have been the nominee right now if he weren't held to a much higher standard that Child-Rapist Donald Trump. But at some point, we've got to stand up for the men. These Republican attacks on men have to stop. It's a very scary time for men in America.
The_Omega Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Standing up for the men based on the party is standing up for the party, not the men. Calling others out for doing what you’re really doing must make you smarter than them, though.
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Standing up for the men based on the party is standing up for the party, not the men. Calling others out for doing what you’re really doing must make you smarter than them, though. So you’re saying Believe All Women?
The_Omega Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 A quick FBI investigation, followed by a televised Senate hearing, sounds fair to everyone involved. 3
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, The_Omega said: A quick FBI investigation, followed by a televised Senate hearing, sounds fair to everyone involved. For Trump’s child rape accusation?
L.E Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Since Trump and Biden are the nominees, let's do dual investigations. One for both of them, side by side. Let's trot both of their accusers out (all 20+ of Trump's), put both guys in front of cameras and let them answer their accusations. Seems fair. 2
sameaglesfan Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, L.E said: Since Trump and Biden are the nominees, let's do dual investigations. One for both of them, side by side. Let's trot both of their accusers out (all 20+ of Trump's), put both guys in front of cameras and let them answer their accusations. Seems fair. You're not wrong.
mr_hunt Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/biden-denies-tara-reades-assault-allegation/ar-BB13sWSU?li=BBnb7Kz "I recognize my responsibility to be a voice, an advocate, and a leader for the change in culture that has begun but is nowhere near finished,” Mr. Biden wrote in a Medium post. "So I want to address allegations by a former staffer that I engaged in misconduct 27 years ago. They aren’t true. This never happened.” There have been growing calls for Mr. Biden to release his Senate papers, held at the University of Delaware. In the Medium post, Mr. Biden said that those papers "do not contain personnel files.” Instead, he called on the National Archives to release any existing complaint. "There is only one place a complaint of this kind could be — the National Archives,” he wrote. "The National Archives is where the records are kept at what was then called the Office of Fair Employment Practices. I am requesting that the Secretary of the Senate ask the Archives to identify any record of the complaint she alleges she filed and make available to the press any such document. If there was ever any such complaint, the record will be there.”
Kz! Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 10 hours ago, L.E said: The problem with using this scandal against Biden is Republicans just spent the last handful of years shitting all over the #MeToo movement, victim-blaming both Trump's and Kavanaugh's accusers and now suddenly they give a crap? Nobody buys it. The problem with ignoring this scandal of Biden's is Democrats just spent the last handful of years yelling believe all women and freaking out over 30 year old accusations and now suddenly they don't give a crap? Nobody buys it.
bobeph Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Dems and Republicans are both guilty of being women abusing scumbags. Anyone with half a brain knows this. 2 1
The_Omega Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Electing a scumbag like Trump has done so much damage to the honor and integrity of the Presidency. Biden was supposed to restore some of that, was supposed to be different. What a disappointment.
Alpha_TATEr Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, bobeph said: Dems and Republicans are both guilty of being women abusing scumbags. Anyone with half a brain knows this. winner ! 1
VanHammersly Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/biden-denies-tara-reades-assault-allegation/ar-BB13sWSU?li=BBnb7Kz "I recognize my responsibility to be a voice, an advocate, and a leader for the change in culture that has begun but is nowhere near finished,” Mr. Biden wrote in a Medium post. "So I want to address allegations by a former staffer that I engaged in misconduct 27 years ago. They aren’t true. This never happened.” There have been growing calls for Mr. Biden to release his Senate papers, held at the University of Delaware. In the Medium post, Mr. Biden said that those papers "do not contain personnel files.” Instead, he called on the National Archives to release any existing complaint. "There is only one place a complaint of this kind could be — the National Archives,” he wrote. "The National Archives is where the records are kept at what was then called the Office of Fair Employment Practices. I am requesting that the Secretary of the Senate ask the Archives to identify any record of the complaint she alleges she filed and make available to the press any such document. If there was ever any such complaint, the record will be there.” Boom. Biden just called her bluff. If it happened, they'd have it. If they don't, then it's fair to assume she's making it up. Fair enough, Zucker (aka The Beta), Kz, etc?
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