7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

John Hightower was always the better player; he just played himself off the team because he couldn't catch the damn ball.  Too bad, because he had a Torrey Smith-like knack for getting behind an NFL defense.  I think he actually had better speed and better route tree, though.  

I liked both of those picks tbh as late round guys. That said what the F does moorehead actually do as a WR coach? Does he just tell aj and smith they do a good job then take the rest of the time off cause literally besides those two in 4 years everyone of his other WRs has gotten worse over time and not better. 

19 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I will say this...whatever issues PHI has can be fixed...and there are three weeks to left to do it...DAL on the other hand? It's hard to fix getting run over repetitively for 266 yards...yeh Hankins was out this week but damn man, they got straight trucked for 4 qtrs for the 3rd time this season with zero adjustments.

Maybe on the offense. A lot of it is Hurts' mistakes and him being a turnover machine. That is somewhat fixable just with decision-making. The defense cannot be fixed though. They have a lack of talent issue and that doesn't get resolved until the offseason. Bradberry is absolutely fried. He can't see the field again and is a liability. Might as well just see what they have in Ringo. The offense at least has talent. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lets go!

 

How can one tweet be so embarrassing in like 5 different ways.

15 minutes ago, metal said:

 

Jones has not been targeted much.  So his number is down.  Surprised why the coaches are using him this way.  What gives?

Watkins on his first game back was targeted 4 times.  He is primarily the deep target, but can't catch very well.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think they called him the "defacto DC" but Eagles have made it clear Desai still has the title DC

Frank & Zangaro said it’s Particia. Eagles didn’t announce it because 1) wanted the players to know first and 2) the ‘ol "competitive advantage” 🤷‍♂️

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

John Hightower was always the better player; he just played himself off the team because he couldn't catch the damn ball.  Too bad, because he had a Torrey Smith-like knack for getting behind an NFL defense.  I think he actually had better speed and better route tree, though.  

Hightower is not better than Quez. He hasn't played a game since 2021.

I don't say this to excuse Hurts' awful unnecessary deep shots he takes, but I wonder if the reason he does it is because the offense never looks fluid or rhythmic. It's clunky and disjointed and he has no faith in it from down to down and thinks going 15 plays as clunky as they do is just too tedious so he tries to take a shortcut with those deep shots because he has totally lost faith in this offense.

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

John Hightower was always the better player; he just played himself off the team because he couldn't catch the damn ball.  Too bad, because he had a Torrey Smith-like knack for getting behind an NFL defense.  I think he actually had better speed and better route tree, though.  

Catching is kinda important that position.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not really apples to apples comparison. Rod Marinelli was what, 69 at the time? While Kris Richard was their young, up and coming guy at the time in his 30's. It made sense for them to do it to groom Richard. This is the complete opposite. Desai is the young up and comer. Patricia is the older, established guy. I wouldn't be surprised if their approach at the beginning of the season was more like what Dallas did. Have the older guy help during the week and input on gameday, have the young guy call plays. 

I just don't see any benefit or see what, if anything, Desai brings from the booth. Just make it a clean break. 

I don't really agree because I don't think what's traditional and what's not matters at all. What matters is finding a situation that works. NFL football is particularly punctuated by massive egos, and because of said massive egos, fans tend to think that the only thing that matters is what's traditional or not. Having one guy be in charge of everything on a defense or an offense creates a situation that when they leave, you fall on your face. Especially when the talent depreciates. Surprise surprise.

I think the only situation where I'd want the Eagles to for sure change things up is if they hired someone as a DC who is likely to stick around for a while and is also likely to be good, which means no up-and-comers. But Dan Quinn types unfortunately don't grow on trees, so that's a mess.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Hightower is not better than Quez. He hasn't played a game since 2021.

That's why I said "was".  He was the better prospect is perhaps more accurate.  Quez is useless; he had one long catch against SF years ago and has been a ghost since.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lets go!

 

How can one tweet be so embarrassing in like 5 different ways.

I wonder what his targets to routes run ratio looks like...it can't be just him, some yeh, probably...if Hurts is missing Smith and AJ being open, how often is he missing his fourth option being open? This stat is worthless without knowing how many times he got open on said routes run, and how many of those times was he the late option in the progression? 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't say this to excuse Hurts' awful unnecessary deep shots he takes, but I wonder if the reason he does it is because the offense never looks fluid or rhythmic. It's clunky and disjointed and he has no faith in it from down to down and thinks going 15 plays as clunky as they do is just too tedious so he tries to take a shortcut with those deep shots because he has totally lost faith in this offense.

It would be a shame for him to lose faith in an offense that is only as bad as it is because of how badly he is playing.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't say this to excuse Hurts' awful unnecessary deep shots he takes, but I wonder if the reason he does it is because the offense never looks fluid or rhythmic. It's clunky and disjointed and he has no faith in it from down to down and thinks going 15 plays as clunky as they do is just too tedious so he tries to take a shortcut with those deep shots because he has totally lost faith in this offense.

I think there could be some truth to this.

I also think that Jalen has allowed the vitriol from AJ to get in his head and he is forcing more YOLO balls to him than he would have normally.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The over reliance on the Shove makes me question whether Sirianni is actually an offensive 'mind' or not.   

The funny thing is he's a big analytics guy. I can see that in the amount of shove plays that have gained us a 1st down but I'd love to see what the analytics say about these god awful screens getting people crushed and running Hurts so much.

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Hightower is not better than Quez. He hasn't played a game since 2021.

Just saying I’d be surprised if quez is still playing in the nfl after 2024. Frankly if the eagles cut him this past offseason and he went elsewhere sucked like he has he might not even be in the league after this year. I think he’ll get one shot next year 

2 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Catching is kinda important that position.

Quez is also attempting to defy that logic. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

It would be a shame for him to lose faith in an offense that is only as bad as it is because of how badly he is playing.

Would that be irony?

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Quez is also attempting to defy that logic. 

Oz isn't really any good, and I like Oz 10 times as much as Quez.  

This is how the offense is designed.

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Maybe on the offense. A lot of it is Hurts' mistakes and him being a turnover machine. That is somewhat fixable just with decision-making. The defense cannot be fixed though. They have a lack of talent issue and that doesn't get resolved until the offseason. Bradberry is absolutely fried. He can't see the field again and is a liability. Might as well just see what they have in Ringo. The offense at least has talent. 

The defense on the road held a team to 13 points last night for 59:30 and 20 points total. Seattle avgs like 21 a game...they did their job last night...outside of the last drive, but they should have never been in that position.

42 minutes ago, EagleTen said:

So what exactly was Desai's job last night? The commentators said he is still the DC, he was just put upstairs...was he calling plays and just sending them down to Patricia? Was he maybe just calling defensive play "schemes" and sending those down to Patricia...

It just seems a very strange thing to not have your DC on the field. Did Siriani think Desai might see the field better from above and call better pays? All very weird...and obviously, whatever they did, and however they split defensive duties, it simply didn't work! 

Are people on the board just not very knowledgeable? Coordinators in the booth is not new either. Additionally, the defense fixed most of the issues people have been whining about all year - you saw tighter coverage calls, more man, etc. In fact it worked really well for most of the DBs coverage wise, the one it didn't work for though was Bradberry, because he sucks and has sucked all year. There was basically one big head scratcher call - cover 1 robber at the end. Other than that, defense was pretty serviceable schematically.

Bradberry can't cover, Sydney Brown can't tackle, and Cover 1 at the end was a bad decision. That's more or less the list of bad for the defense yesterday.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Would that be irony?

I dont think so. More like self fulfilling prophecy.

5 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Frank & Zangaro said it’s Particia. Eagles didn’t announce it because 1) wanted the players to know first and 2) the ‘ol "competitive advantage” 🤷‍♂️

That's what Nick said when he was asked about his earlier comment about why he said there would be no coaching change last Tuesday. For all intents and purposes, Patricia is the defensive coordinator, but the title stayed with Desai for whatever reason.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/coaches/

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Throwing a 50/50 to Watkins is never a good decision 

Yeah, because its more like a 1/99 against.   And the 1 is an incompletion.

1 hour ago, vaeagle2 said:

this all was visible since week 1 when the team squeaked by the pats , same problems and nick has failed to correct any issues , just a bad coach.

Yeah... I don't think the team ever bought into what Siri/BJ are doing. They all look extremely frustrated during the games.