4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Prior to last night, the defense hasn’t really allowed them to use this type of offense. They were trailing at half six straight games and were in comeback mode. Game was basically over by half against SF and DAL. Every time they get down it’s panic mode. They were using the run game fine yesterday before Hurts went into YOLO mode. 

You can't trust the offense because whenever we're up the playcalling goes incredibly conservative for whatever reason. The league has obviously caught up to our R(P)O game so we need to do something different but we end up just running the same vanilla plays. I think the run game is a little too finesse right now to be consistently effective. If it gets blocked up perfectly it's great but it seems like more often than not we're getting blown up in the backfield.

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Clips like this come out every week of him just missing guys wide open. Johnson isn’t perfect, but people acting like he’s 100% responsible for the decline in the offense are wrong or don’t want to admit that Hurts shares a large part. 

To be honest, this clip really proves nothing.  Unless we know what his pre snap read is (as given by the OC and coaches) as well as his situational instructions given the time left in the game, then we don't know if Hurts is to blame or not.

The problems are:

(1) Play design.  Who thought a screen pass to Goedert with Smith blocking was a good idea? What about the design where Gainwell goes out to the same area as Brown blocking the throwing lane?  

(2)  Play Calling.  There is no rhythm or flow to this offense.  They run when they should pass and pass when they should run.  Alot of wasted plays that have no chance of working (ie Wrs bubble screens) or a Qb sneak on 3rd down with 10 yds to go.  There is no commitment to the power running game.  Your QB is battling the flu but you run him 13 times?! 

(3)  Execution. Lots of drops, missed blocks, bad throws, turnovers, bailing the pocket too early, not making the right read from the pocket or receiver running the wrong route based on coverage.

(4) The offense is too predictable.  I suspect defense know what the read is for the Qb and are disguising coverages.  This is the same offense minus the power runs.  The league has caught up to the RPO.  Adapt!

Basically, their offense inefficiencies are due to a a variety of issues.  Ultimately, I believe the coaches are to blame for most of it.  Yes. Hurts needs to play better but the coaches need to prepare the players better with an atrention to detail, call a better game that gets the offense into a rhythm, design players open, adapt to the defense attempt to pounce on offenses tendencies and what they are doing to take away certain players etc, be more creative and adapt to the defense.  

That's a lot. Hope we wake up tomorrow to have Reich in the house.  That WIP caller was right...this team needs Jesus "a come to Jesus moment." 

Case in point.  An opposing team's RB Calling out our plays.  Imagine what DCs and defensive players are seeing.

 

 

crap  the eagles pissed off the nuns 

 

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Prior to last night, the defense hasn’t really allowed them to use this type of offense. They were trailing at half six straight games and were in comeback mode. Game was basically over by half against SF and DAL. Every time they get down it’s panic mode. They were using the run game fine yesterday before Hurts went into YOLO mode. 

The DEFENSE hasn't allowed them to? Wait wait wait, you mean the defense that for most of the year kept them in games after they made a whole new style out of going three and out? Or the defense that has to deal with tons of short fields because the offense is top 10 in turnovers OUTSIDE of stalling drives?

They were trailing at the half because the couldn't score points and when they did, they kicked field goals. ESPECIALLY for the first half of the season. They didn't allow themselves to use that type of offense.

6 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Clips like this come out every week of him just missing guys wide open. Johnson isn’t perfect, but people acting like he’s 100% responsible for the decline in the offense are wrong or don’t want to admit that Hurts shares a large part. 

Who are these people?

6 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

If only he could tackle.

After last nights OT win I realized the flyers are much more enjoyable to watch right now. Don't have all the talent but they never give up. 

4 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

After last nights OT win I realized the flyers are much more enjoyable to watch right now. Don't have all the talent but they never give up. 

The Flyers sort of came out of nowhere this year.  It’s been too long - I might finally get back into them 

Was listening to Marks and Reese talk about how Jalen's sitting on the bench and being stoic is possibly coming back to bite him with the team and performance, especially when he makes comments to the media about the team. I'm sitting here thinking about it more and it's really worrying. Nobody seems to want to approach him and he's not trying to rally the team or talk to his skill players when things are falling apart during the game. 

8 hours ago, bitbased said:

You can't trust the offense because whenever we're up the playcalling goes incredibly conservative for whatever reason. The league has obviously caught up to our R(P)O game so we need to do something different but we end up just running the same vanilla plays. I think the run game is a little too finesse right now to be consistently effective. If it gets blocked up perfectly it's great but it seems like more often than not we're getting blown up in the backfield.

The league has definitely figured us out at this point.  So vanilla.  The first drive against Seattle we did some different things, even used the San Fran circle the QB motion on a screen to Swift,  but then just settled back into the playcallers comfort zone which is this: our players will beat your players one on one so scheming guys open, setting up mismatches with movement isn't necessary.

This theme started last year…as good as this O was they took about half the season off.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If only he could tackle.

His tackling was just awful but he was in the right place for much of the game and flying around. Let's hope that tackling is just something he can improve on. I'd rather have him in the right spot needing to fix his tackling instead of being slow to the play or not even in the right zip code but a good tackler. 

8 hours ago, Cliftoma said:

Case in point.  An opposing team's RB Calling out our plays.  Imagine what DCs and defensive players are seeing.

 

 

I mean, I'd say we could call a good % of the plays from our couch because they're so predictable.

19 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Was listening to Marks and Reese talk about how Jalen's sitting on the bench and being stoic is possibly coming back to bite him with the team and performance, especially when he makes comments to the media about the team. I'm sitting here thinking about it more and it's really worrying. Nobody seems to want to approach him and he's not trying to rally the team or talk to his skill players when things are falling apart during the game. 

I said this after the game but I honestly can't think of a time I've seen Hurts talking with his teammates and coaches after a mistake or looking at plays and going over things. He's always just sitting by himself. He's even keeled, fine. But are they even discussing things when the defense is on the field? Also aware that we don't see the whole picture just from random camera shots. 

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

His tackling was just awful but he was in the right place for much of the game and flying around. Let's hope that tackling is just something he can improve on. I'd rather have him in the right spot needing to fix his tackling instead of being slow to the play or not even in the right zip code but a good tackler. 

Correct.  Tackling is fixable, but it desperately needs fixing.

35 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

After last nights OT win I realized the flyers are much more enjoyable to watch right now. Don't have all the talent but they never give up. 

Beating the Devils is the best.  Continuous payback for the Stevens/Lindros hit.

 

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

His tackling was just awful but he was in the right place for much of the game and flying around. Let's hope that tackling is just something he can improve on. I'd rather have him in the right spot needing to fix his tackling instead of being slow to the play or not even in the right zip code but a good tackler. 

That play at the end of the game where he had the chance to blow up DK was pretty unfortunate. He didn't have to kill him and draw a penalty but it seemed like he couldn't decide whether to play the ball or smash him so he basically did nothing. Probably singing him more praises if he makes that play.

 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

 

Yeah, and Brown missed a ton of tackles and Smith hurt his shoulder...again.  There is nothing positive to take from that game.

15 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

People are mad when guys are buddy/buddy with opponents after a tough loss. And they’re mad when they go straight to the locker room. Can’t win either way. 

A simple post-game handshake isn't an unreasonable expectation. It's just proper sportsmanship. I understand being frustrated and upset about a loss, but at some point you need to learn to take your losses like a man instead of running away to the locker room. 

I think a lot of the criticism of his play is over the top at times (especially considering the circumstances), but just shake the other QB's hand after the game, FFS.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

The Flyers sort of came out of nowhere this year.  It’s been too long - I might finally get back into them 

Yeah. It was supposed to be a complete tear down rebuild. 

1 hour ago, Uscg-green said:

After last nights OT win I realized the flyers are much more enjoyable to watch right now. Don't have all the talent but they never give up. 

There’s a good sense of hope with them moving forward too with Gauthier and Michkov coming down the pipeline. They’re building a good foundation right now. Playoff hockey is awesome and if they can get back into the playoffs it would definitely be enjoyable. Catch a good run of goaltending and who knows what happens.