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Just now, Parrot Head said:

He’s being very serious. They called the shot play.

Right, but I mean the reason why. They called a shot play against Washington the first game too which scored a TD when they could have killed clock and took a FG for the win. 

Them calling a shot play just to try to get a DPI to set up a FG is the part I hope he’s just saying nonsense. 

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As long as they're all together though they'll be ok. Holding hands and being friends isn't gonna win games and superbowls. You need a certain level of knowledge to do this and i'm not sure this man has it.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Right, but I mean the reason why. They called a shot play against Washington the first game too which scored a TD when they could have killed clock and took a FG for the win. 

Them calling a shot play just to try to get a DPI to set up a FG is the part I hope he’s just saying nonsense. 

Yeah, I think he’s dead serious.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Right, but I mean the reason why. They called a shot play against Washington the first game too which scored a TD when they could have killed clock and took a FG for the win. 

Them calling a shot play just to try to get a DPI to set up a FG is the part I hope he’s just saying nonsense. 

Watching the Washington game, it looked like Hurts audibled to the AJ go route.

I think 99% of what Nick says is BS in these press conferences to protect the players and other coaches.

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

This is probably the truth.  Doesnt make it any less stupid as a call.  Does let Jalen off the hook because they said chuck it deep.  But it is MORONIC and DUMB.  Not just in retrospect. It was a bad bad bad call. It was bad.      

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Q: "What do you need to see in the next game to feel like this is back on the right track"

A: Long pause ".. uh, Getting back to the standard"

:roll:

At least we aren’t using the gold standard. 

1 minute ago, jamiller said:

This is probably the truth.  Doesnt make it any less stupid as a call.  Does let Jalen off the hook because they said chuck it deep.  But it is MORONIC and DUMB.  Not just in retrospect. It was a bad bad bad call. It was bad.      

I think you can probably count at least 10 dumb play calls each game, maybe even 3 or 4 REALLY dumb ones.

6 minutes ago, xBMTx said:

Hurts is the much bigger problem than the play calling. Although the play calling has been repetitive/predictable and the timing of certain plays suspect, the all-22 shows that there are still plays that can be made and Hurts doesn't either sees it or misfires on it.

Looking at this play. Although I don't agree with the deep shot call in this situation AJ has his man beat and the safety is late coming to help. A good throw would have been a completion and maybe even a TD. Smith also has his man beat and Gainwell is uncovered. Is the play call really that bad after all? Not really. Hurts has just been terrible.

 

I’d argue the fact hurts hadn’t been playing well, was sick (probably gassed as he ran 13 times as well), under threw a deep ball a couple possessions before and it was raining the better calls would’ve been using the middle of the field and the timeouts you had. Or throwing to smith who was one on one 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Watching the Washington game, it looked like Hurts audibled to the AJ go route.

I think 99% of what Nick says is BS in these press conferences to protect the players and other coaches.

Im not sure what makes me feel better.  

Jalen is an idiot for tossing that (if he wasnt told just chuck the mf'er) or Nick is for calling it. Both make me feel bad and worried, lol.  I guess the play call would be less awful because it can be easily corrected.  Jalen being dumb or stubborn or locked in or one dimensional is less correctible, I suppose.

4 hours ago, RLC said:

Yup.

Younger people will never understand the 2002 loss to the Bucs. There is no close 2nd to worse loss in my lifetime. 

Losing in the NFCCG in 08/09 to the Cards was the worst for me.

We were up and down all year, McNabb was benched then the team got hot, beat the NYG in the playoffs who at that point we were struggling to beat.

To come back and take the lead in the 4th vs Arizona only for the defense to give up a long drive and lose was hard for me to get over.   

They were the definition of a team getting hot at the right moment and could have won that SB vs Pittsburgh. 

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

When smith hits his break he throws it is likely a catch and we kick a fg. also gainwell on a dumpoff likely goes for 10-15 yards 

 

So I guess this means Brian Johnson isn't entirely to blame.  

Break out the black jerseys with a green helmet. That will fix it.

1 minute ago, rrfierce said:

I think you can probably count at least 10 dumb play calls each game, maybe even 3 or 4 REALLY dumb ones.

Sure but you can count 5 against any team.  That IS hindsight, right?  

Our issue is thematically we are wildly flawed in the planning.  They are throwing into the teeth of what is expected. And that is DUMB AF.  

They give you the middle and 15 yards. You take it 100% of the time when you have TOs and the ultimate weapon at kicker.  f'ing morons.  

I swear we only ever use the Dark uniforms when we play the giants.

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Break out the black jerseys with a green helmet. That will fix it.

They can stick all the colors up their asses.  INCLUDING the vaunted Kelly green, which can S my D today.  They should have to wear scarlet LOSERS on their jerseys.  

9 minutes ago, jamiller said:

This is probably the truth.  Doesnt make it any less stupid as a call.  Does let Jalen off the hook because they said chuck it deep.  But it is MORONIC and DUMB.  Not just in retrospect. It was a bad bad bad call. It was bad.      

Didn’t they have Gainwell underneath (all by himself)  for at least a 15 yard gain on that play? 
 

I get the idea of the play call but Hurts obviously should have the option to check down and go for the guaranteed first down there.  If that’s not a part of the play call, then that is an issue, imo 

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Didn’t they have Gainwell underneath (all by himself)  for at least a 15 yard gain on that play? 
 

I get the idea of the play call but Hurts obviously should have the option to check down and go for the guaranteed first down there.  If that’s not a part of the play call, then that is an issue, imo 

Depends what you expect out of your $51M per year QB.  Do you want/need a QB who will run the play as called and deliver to the 1st read, or do you want a QB who will see what is and is not open and distribute the football to the best option on a given play?

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Didn’t they have Gainwell underneath (all by himself)  for at least a 15 yard gain on that play? 
 

I get the idea of the play call but Hurts obviously should have the option to check down and go for the guaranteed first down there.  If that’s not a part of the play call, then that is an issue, imo 

He is sitting right there. ANYONE could hit him (except McNabb and Wentz both of whom couldn't throw a screen to save their lives).  At least Hurts can throw a good forward screen (average at best on lateral screens).  It is INSANE to throw the ball that was thrown. 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Didn’t they have Gainwell underneath (all by himself)  for at least a 15 yard gain on that play? 
 

I get the idea of the play call but Hurts obviously should have the option to check down and go for the guaranteed first down there.  If that’s not a part of the play call, then that is an issue, imo 

The still picture makes it look bad but Gainwell doesn't leak out until 3+ seconds after the ball is snapped. Smith was the better throw.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

When smith hits his break he throws it is likely a catch and we kick a fg. also gainwell on a dumpoff likely goes for 10-15 yards 

 

I didn't need video evidence to know that there were better options than the one Hurts chose...  I knew it during the moments it happened and as he loaded up (because he has to to get the ball that far) to throw this ball.   2 YOLO throws... 2 INTs.  You do the math.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Depends what you expect out of your $51M per year QB.  Do you want/need a QB who will run the play as called and deliver to the 1st read, or do you want a QB who will see what is and is not open and distribute the football to the best option on a given play?

 I want the latter one always.  I want a thinking QB. Always. 100% of the time.  And I am sure you do too. 

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Break out the black jerseys with a green helmet. That will fix it.

Dressing for their own funeral is an interesting choice 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The still picture makes it look bad but Gainwell doesn't leak out until 3+ seconds after the ball is snapped. Smith was the better throw.

Nah.  It is 1.5 seconds at most and in the first half second you can see not a guy within a mile

56 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

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Not sure if this refers to the quote about Quez, the fact that he's still on the team or the YOLO throw to him at a point in the game where that's not even the best option for a play if he were wide open.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

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