2 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

 

Just sayin', Tommy's involvement in the 'making' of these cutlets pales compared to my contributions as an 8 year old helping my grandmother making fried chicken.   As an 8 year old, my grandmother decided I was perfectly capable of coating chicken in egg wash... and then flour... and back again.   Seems Tommy's mom doesn't trust him with even that duty in the process.   

 

Nice work, Tommy.   He's not even a game manager when it comes to coating chicken!!!

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

The Miracle at the Meadowlands people often forget.

 

 

That was a season saving return.

41 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Crazy that lack of depth at LB and unnecessarily cutting one of them is leading to only having and playing a washed Leonard who just got here and Ben VanSomeotherguy. Oh well. An inactive TE4 and RB4 are much more important. 

They HAD to protect Albert O and Grant Calcaterra.   Those are indispensible cogs to this broken machine.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Just sayin', Tommy's involvement in the 'making' of these cutlets pales compared to my contributions as an 8 year old helping my grandmother making fried chicken.   As an 8 year old, my grandmother decided I was perfectly capable of coating chicken in egg wash... and then flour... and back again.   Seems Tommy's mom doesn't trust him with even that duty in the process.   

 

Nice work, Tommy.   He's not even a game manager when it comes to coating chicken!!!

Hopefully it's the Birds that cook Tommy on Monday

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's not really an insult.  Joe Montana was primarily a game manager.   Same with Brady.  Take what the defense gives you, over and over and over.   You don't go broke taking a profit.  

Brady was a game manager that made grocery stocker WRs competent. Niners lost 3 straight without Deebo.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They HAD to protect Albert O and Grant Calcaterra.   Those are indispensible cogs to this broken machine.

what was the Eagles best free agency/trade move this past off-season? It’s swift trade. Then  either Zach Cunningham on August 6 or Oz as their fourth wide receiver. Safety with Edmunds and Evans was not good. One guy never stays healthy and edmunds was a JAG. Morrow is what he is. Giving bradberry that extension looks awful. 

1 minute ago, bitbased said:

Brady was a game manager that made grocery stocker WRs competent. Niners lost 3 straight without Deebo.

The beginning of his career, Brady was absolutely just a game manager.   He grew more into the job as he got more experience and the game slowed down.  

 

And, as I said a few pages back, Purdy is absolutely dependent on those around him.   Brady was able to ascend beyond that... eventually.  

Tonight's Bills/Chargers game isn't on regular TV. Such a joke. I'll watch an illegal stream, I'm not paying for Peacock.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

A game manager averaging 10yds per attempt with a 120 passer rating. Hmm, yeah.

The dude doesn't make hard throws, he doesn't have to throw anyone open. He throws to wide open receivers who then have the ability to turn those throws into more. Put him with any other offense and he's a JAG. Take away just deebo or CMC and he's a JAG (see his 3 game stretch without deebo).

This dude is getting overhyped to no end because he was Mr irrelevant. He got dropped onto a team that was already a super bowl contender, and he does his job. Doesn't turn the ball over, and gives the ball to his playmakers to do the heavy lifting. It's what this team should do, but doesn't because the coaching staff can't scheme anybody open.

1 minute ago, devpool said:

The dude doesn't make hard throws, he doesn't have to throw anyone open. He throws to wide open receivers who then have the ability to turn those throws into more. Put him with any other offense and he's a JAG. Take away just deebo or CMC and he's a JAG (see his 3 game stretch without deebo).

This dude is getting overhyped to no end because he was Mr irrelevant. He got dropped onto a team that was already a super bowl contender, and he does his job. Doesn't turn the ball over, and gives the ball to his playmakers to do the heavy lifting. It's what this team should do, but doesn't because the coaching staff can't scheme anybody open.

dont argue with a box score scout. 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The beginning of his career, Brady was absolutely just a game manager.   He grew more into the job as he got more experience and the game slowed down.  

 

And, as I said a few pages back, Purdy is absolutely dependent on those around him.   Brady was able to ascend beyond that... eventually.  

Purdy is in an even better situation than Brady was early. Brady rode the defense to early success, the offense wasn't remotely as talented as the niners right now. 

Purdy is a good QB, but no way in hell can anyone actually watch him and say "wow that's an MVP QB". You watch the niners and see CMC contribute over half of the offenses yards and that's what an MVP looks like. Without CMC that offense would die. Without Purdy, they would be fine

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

Purdy is in an even better situation than Brady was early. Brady rode the defense to early success, the offense wasn't remotely as talented as the niners right now. 

Purdy is a good QB, but no way in hell can anyone actually watch him and say "wow that's an MVP QB". You watch the niners and see CMC contribute over half of the offenses yards and that's what an MVP looks like. Without CMC that offense would die. Without Purdy, they would be fine

CMC and Samuel are absolutely far more valuable to the 49ers success than Purdy.  But... Purdy is absolutely a valuable piece.   He doesn't really make mistakes, and that's the number one thing Shanahan needs from his QB.

44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

what was the Eagles best free agency/trade move this past off-season? It’s swift trade. Then  either Zach Cunningham on August 6 or Oz as their fourth wide receiver. Safety with Edmunds and Evans was not good. One guy never stays healthy and edmunds was a JAG. Morrow is what he is. Giving bradberry that extension looks awful. 

I’d be much happier if Oz was the 3rd WR at this point.  He makes plays at least to some extent.  Quez screws up; bad things happen when the ball goes his way.  I was hoping against logic that Julio could be useful on the outside to allow DeVonta to be a volume target from the slot.  That did not materialize.

5 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well... it was one post from one person... 

 

But I will say this, Purdy seems almost ideal for Shanahan.  He's a really good game manager (no slight intended in that phrase).  His job is to facilitate getting the ball to the playmakers in the right places to allow them to make the play.  And he's doing it masterfully.  Nothing he does looks spectacular, and that's by design.  Shanahan wants to give his QB easy throws, which leads to high completion rates and chains moving... and when you add in the playmakers the 49ers have, you have explosive plays.  When you take one away (like Samuel), you see that the offense falls way down.  

Purdy is what he is.  He is a great distributor, he's not a playmaker on his own.  His success will be reliant on those around him.  

Where would Jalen be without A.J., DeVonta and Goedert? Maybe give him Carolina's O line. Football is referred to as a team sport for a reason.

53 minutes ago, bitbased said:

Brady was a game manager that made grocery stocker WRs competent. Niners lost 3 straight without Deebo.

Dont forget the LT was out too. Kind of impacts them like when Lane is out.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’d be much happier if Oz was the 3rd WR at this point.  He makes plays at least to some extent.  Quez screws up; bad things happen when the ball goes his way.  I was hoping against logic that Julio could be useful on the outside to allow DeVonta to be a volume target from the slot.  That did not materialize.

I’d take Greg ward over quez right now. Quez should not be on the team. Every play they run and goes to him is a negative okay. Their drop off in EPA when he’s on the field and off is 5th to 13th. 

Food for thought:

What would Hurts look like in SF?

What would Purdy look like in Philly?

1 minute ago, Iggles25 said:

Food for thought:

What would Hurts look like in SF?

What would Purdy look like in Philly?

MVP

Benched for Tanner

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Crazy that lack of depth at LB and unnecessarily cutting one of them is leading to only having and playing a washed Leonard who just got here and Ben VanSomeotherguy. Oh well. An inactive TE4 and RB4 are much more important. 

I like Ben VanSumeren.

He was a Fullback for the Michigan Wolverines for a couple of years.   The Eagles could put him at FB,  but the Eagles seems to want to intentionally not have any short yardage back who is not Jalen Hurts.

Then ILB for Michigan and then Michigan State.  Not many years there. Raw.  But the RAS is high.  

VanSumeren is one I put on my "get these udfas"  day 3 list,  so I'm rooting for him.

However,  I do understand that the typical Eagles fan just wants the most famous players to play every snap until they collapse,  and then they want to point fingers while they ignore that having the same players play all the snaps causes them to burn out by the end of the season.

Kelee Ringo (similar to VanSumeren,  raw and flawed at this point,  but higher Ras than others at the same spot)  did solidly well the last game.  I'd expect something similar to Ringo from VanSumeren.   A small amount of "WTF was that",  and some of "wow,  that guy can really go sideline to sideline".  And as the experience grows,  fewer of the WTF, down to almost none,  and more ofthe wow.

We can't find the wonderlic stuff from these guys, but VanSumeren got offers from Harvard and Yale, so he's smart. 

More Nolan Smith on the field, more Sydney Brown on the field, more Kelee Ringo on the field,  more Ben VanSumeren on the field.  All rookies,  all with very good ras.

Ras compare -  Nolan Smith v Ben VanSumeren as LB.
https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=20038&p2=23189&pos=LB
Ras compare - Sydney Brown v Kelee Ringo as SS.
https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=22997&p2=19977&pos=SS

Get them experience,  get them on the field.   Maybe some of those guys won't be able to match their play to their Ras,   but I think they all will.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5370246/59de1187ab9d431f74f519c8

8 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Food for thought:

What would Hurts look like in SF?

What would Purdy look like in Philly?

Hurts would probably be MVP. Hard to tell with Purdy because they'd have to chuck the whole QB run/sneak section of their playbook which might actually improve our offense.

1 hour ago, bitbased said:

Brady was a game manager that made grocery stocker WRs competent. Niners lost 3 straight without Deebo.

Brady was far from a game manager. Come on man. 

13 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Food for thought:

What would Hurts look like in SF?

What would Purdy look like in Philly?

Tua?

Minshew?

 

22 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Where would Jalen be without A.J., DeVonta and Goedert? Maybe give him Carolina's O line. Football is referred to as a team sport for a reason.

I'd imagine no starting QB would be that great without their entire starting receiving group. The Niners struggled to put up 20 without Deebo while they still had Aiyuk, CMC, Kittle and mastermind himself Shanahan. A bit of a difference.

Just now, bitbased said:

I'd imagine no starting QB would be that great without their entire starting receiving group. The Niners struggled to put up 20 without Deebo while they still had Aiyuk, CMC, Kittle and mastermind himself Shanahan. A bit of a difference.

It had more to do with their LT1 being out than Deebo.