40 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Yeah it does.  But that is OK.  I think the real concern is internal relationships.  Something dark is going on in the locker room.  Jalen has lost the room somehow.   Coaches seem to as well.  Brown saying last night he was taught if he doesn't have anything nice to say, don't say anything and refuses to speak with reporters.   Hurts with one on one conversations with Smith and Kelce after the game, Sirianni looking pissed off during and after the game.  Something is sour, so much so that busting a losing streak didn't mean squat to the team.  Relationships are torn, that much is certain.

Yeah there’s something going on there for sure. That’s not a together team.

This team better watch some SBTB.

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

This team hasn’t caught form through 15 games. This is who they are. They are a team that has relied heavily on misfortune from opposing teams throughout this season because they can’t put together one solid full 4 quarter game this season. No reason to think that is changing now. 

They are underachieving and that usually comes down to coaching.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

They are underachieving and that usually comes down to coaching.

Nah... it's both players s not executing and at times coaching. Turnovers aren't always a coaching thing. 

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

Sheesh. Fellas we're 11-4 and have a legit shot at the 1 seed. All while playing a beast of a schedule.

Lighten up. You'd think we were 6-9 or something with the mood around here.

You have to admit, even though we are 11-4, we look like an 6-9 team. Everyone has a legit reason for concern going into the playoffs. This team at least on offense has too much talent to be struggling the way they are.

However the entire league has taken a major step back with the product it has placed on the field this year. Major decline in the "NFL brand" from last 5 years. 

Maybe teams need to stop running so many walk thoughts and hold real practices, hit in practice etc to get this sport back on track. Maybe the NFLPA needs to drop the practice limitations during the next contract so the players can get in the work they need to improve and the coaches and lock in their schemes. Maybe the NFL needs to stop being so petty about the hits and tic tac calls on the QB when they are touched. 

The league has become soft and the league has suffered because of it. If they keep going the way they are now, they will not be the top watched sport in the next 5-7 years. 

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

Sheesh. Fellas we're 11-4 and have a legit shot at the 1 seed. All while playing a beast of a schedule.

Lighten up. You'd think we were 6-9 or something with the mood around here.

Facts. A few unfortunate turnovers one of the likes that ive never seen before lol, prevented this game from being a total route. And someone get Goedert some better cleats.

Somewhere down the road we are going to find out about something rotten in the clubhouse.  There is some serious dissension going on in the room.

Hurts has regressed. The OL is starting to show their age. The play calling has been atrocious. The defense can't stop a nosebleed. The DL can't buy a sack against even some of the worst OLs in football. The secondary blows. We had to demote our DC. We got manhandled by our two main competitors. We let Lock drive the field to beat us. We squeaked by a dumpster fire at home. We are a few comically lucky plays from having a terrible record. There is a very real and serious issue in the locker room.

Golly gee guys, if you ignore all of that we're in a great spot! Why the negativity????

 

Quez Watkins was essentially benched. Played just one snap 

We have 11 wins off a Super Bowl loss. Lost both coordinators after the SB when all the good options were gone. We have experienced both injury and turnover regression. Oh and we played the hardest schedule in the league.

Zooming out, it'd a good season.

Yet, we know it should be better and that's why it's frustrating. 

10 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

You have to admit, even though we are 11-4, we look like an 6-9 team. Everyone has a legit reason for concern going into the playoffs. This team at least on offense has too much talent to be struggling the way they are.

However the entire league has taken a major step back with the product it has placed on the field this year. Major decline in the "NFL brand" from last 5 years. 

Maybe teams need to stop running so many walk thoughts and hold real practices, hit in practice etc to get this sport back on track. Maybe the NFLPA needs to drop the practice limitations during the next contract so the players can get in the work they need to improve and the coaches and lock in their schemes. Maybe the NFL needs to stop being so petty about the hits and tic tac calls on the QB when they are touched. 

The league has become soft and the league has suffered because of it. If they keep going the way they are now, they will not be the top watched sport in the next 5-7 years. 

This is what happens when you add an extra regular season game and get rid of a bye in the playoffs. Have guys playing on Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday playing in other countries, etc  Product is being diluted in an effort to minimize injury meanwhile the schedules and lack of recovery time are the real culprits. They're not gonna mess with the money though. 

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Somewhere down the road we are going to find out about something rotten in the clubhouse.  There is some serious dissension going on in the room.

Doubtful 

10 minutes ago, judunno said:

Facts. A few unfortunate turnovers one of the likes that ive never seen before lol, prevented this game from being a total route. And someone get Goedert some better cleats.

To paraphrase Jim Schwartz, if we do enough dumbarse things, pretty soon we’re going to be labeled dumbarses

We’ve been doing these dumbarse things all year.

8 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Makes me shudder when people say Boston Scott should have an increased role.  OZ can’t get pushed 5 yards back like that, but Scott fumbling the ball away in his own red zone on it was purely awful.

To be fair, that play is more on Oz than it is Scott. On top of that, it was an incredible play by Isaiah Simmons. He basically threw Oz 5 yards right at Scott. I don't think Scott had any idea a teammate was going to be thrown that far back in to him.

Hard to make the argument for more Scott today as it was KG's best game of the year, however I still think he deserves PT. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Quez Watkins was essentially benched. Played just one snap 

How did we score 33 points without teams fearing his speed? Or did we score 33 points on that one play?

1 minute ago, RLC said:

We have 11 wins off a Super Bowl loss. Lost both coordinators after the SB when all the good options were gone. We have experienced both injury and turnover regression. Oh and we played the hardest schedule in the league.

Zooming out, it'd a good season.

Yet, we know it should be better and that's why it's frustrating. 

Lost a very good position coach too which is why the secondary looks lax IMO.

Jalen Hurts has a qb rating of 89.6 this year.  With this OL, these WRs, and a $250m contract…in 2023…the starting QB’s passer rating is 89.6.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

We have 11 wins off a Super Bowl loss. Lost both coordinators after the SB when all the good options were gone. We have experienced both injury and turnover regression. Oh and we played the hardest schedule in the league.

Zooming out, it'd a good season.

Yet, we know it should be better and that's why it's frustrating. 

We could have lost Steichen the second the regular season ended and we still would have promoted Johnson. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Quez Watkins was essentially benched. Played just one snap 

That was an elite snap though.

We put up 465 yards and scored on 7 of 10 possessions yesterday.  One unfortunate INT and two 3-and-outs.

It's the turnovers. We gave the Giants 15 points in the third quarter.

Last season we were second best in turnover margin - this season we are fourth worst.  Last season we were top-5 in takeaways - this season we are bottom-5

I was only half watching and TV was muted, but the broadcast looked like another light rain game.

Was it raining last night?

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Quez Watkins was essentially benched. Played just one snap 

They took the deep ball out of the offense yesterday.  Maybe why Brown wasn't happy.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Jalen Hurts has a qb rating of 89.6 this year.  With this OL, these WRs, and a $250m contract…in 2023…the starting QB’s passer rating is 89.6.

Why are you using passer rating in 2023.

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Jalen Hurts has a qb rating of 89.6 this year.  With this OL, these WRs, and a $250m contract…in 2023…the starting QB’s passer rating is 89.6.

To be fair some of these turnovers that are impacting the rating aren't all on him. Goedert slipping his way into a pick 6 is just the latest example. That bad snap by Kelce could have been another. This team has been out of sync all year. They take a lot of low percentage downfield shots by design.