Did anyone ask Hurts about what happened at the end of the half? I’m assuming it was just a brain lapse, but was curious if he even had a response to that. 

25 minutes ago, RLC said:

The first play is inexcusable. Given the situation, might be the worst play of Jalen's career.

2nd play is a 6 man blitz vs. a 5 man protection without any hot routes. Is that on the QB or the scheme? 

I beg to differ:

Surprised more people aren’t talking about how broken our pass rush is. For all the money and draft picks invested in it that was a bad performance against arguably the worst offense and offensive line in the league. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Surprised more people aren’t talking about how broken our pass rush is. For all the money and draft picks invested in it that was a bad performance against arguably the worst offense and offensive line in the league. 

Or that the aging players are the best ones on the Dline?

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Surprised more people aren’t talking about how broken our pass rush is. For all the money and draft picks invested in it that was a bad performance against arguably the worst offense and offensive line in the league. 

It's a Josh Sweat issue.

Teams are doubling Carter, using chip help on Reddick and Sweat isn't winning at all. The other DT away from Carter does get occasional wins (often Cox). Wish Nolan got a lot more of his reps.

57 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The problem is they need 2 LBs, 2 CBs, 1 safety (and Blankenship isn’t exactly a stud in the fold), a 3rd WR, and are eventually going to derail an entire season because of a Lane Johnson injury.  And they are limited in cap space, specifically due to massive cap obligations on offense.

So I just don’t know that they can afford to make a financial commitment at RB.  I think they have to continue put 6-7th round picks into the trade market to shake some trees and see what falls out.  
 

I think Swift has to walk.  

I don’t think they’ll quit on Nakobe, but they definitely need another LB which can be addressed in the draft. I think there’s a scenario where their corners next season are already on the roster with Ringo, Rodgers, Maddox, Slay, and McPhearson coming back. Bradberry is finished but I don’t know the cap ramifications of moving on from him. 
 

The bigger issue in regards to extending Swift will probably come down to the DeVonta and Dickerson extensions that will be coming due. 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Surprised more people aren’t talking about how broken our pass rush is. For all the money and draft picks invested in it that was a bad performance against arguably the worst offense and offensive line in the league. 

Imo they have personnel problem from what they lost and replaced it with. They lost suh, Joseph and hargrave. All three of those guys had really good seasons. Hargrave and Joseph especially. Joseph was a big reason why our run defense was strong throughout last year. And hargrave consistently gave you a push from inside.

They replaced it with more snaps for Williams and Davis and drafting Carter. They downgraded as hargrave is still a pro bowler and as great as Carter can be he’s not there yet. And Williams has been pedestrian this year. Cox seems to be fine in his role but likely needs to just be a depth guy going forward. Davis has been ok but since he had the leg injury early in the year he hasn’t been as great. Also not getting the josh sweat from last year or earlier this year. He has made more frustrating pass rushes where he loses containment than actual good plays for over a month now. Reddick has been good but not DPOY worthy. And graham is just about done. Smith isn’t ready yet and who knows if he becomes what we hoped. 

Sweat and Davis are the most disappointing. Sweat has an elite get off, he should be getting more pressure than he is, he's better than this. And Davis I'm not even sure what he is. I didn't love the pick when they made it because of his lack of production at Georgia. I'm not even sure what he does in the NFL. In fairness to him, DTs usually don't break out until year 3. So maybe he's on track. But I said when they drafted him the only reason I didn't hate the pick is there was no one there I loved. Kyle Hamilton is looking like a much better player than him though even though you can't knock them for leaning DL over safety in the top 15.

There are teams out there with lesser talented lines getting more pressure.

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t think they’ll quit on Nakobe, but they definitely need another LB which can be addressed in the draft. I think there’s a scenario where their corners next season are already on the roster with Ringo, Rodgers, Maddox, Slay, and McPhearson coming back. Bradberry is finished but I don’t know the cap ramifications of moving on from him. 
 

The bigger issue in regards to extending Swift will probably come down to the DeVonta and Dickerson extensions that will be coming due. 

I think they have done a really good job scraping together RBs on short notice and a budget.  Half of that is that they seem to have a good eye for the right vets and the other half is that it’s just so easy to get serviceable RBs off the scrap heap.  

That’s an interesting contrast to LB and S…also low investment positions for most teams where you can often get serviceable players for cheap…but the Eagles usually do very poorly with these.

Devonta and Dickerson are about to cost $$$$$, so I just don’t know what options they’ll have.

7 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t think they’ll quit on Nakobe, but they definitely need another LB which can be addressed in the draft. I think there’s a scenario where their corners next season are already on the roster with Ringo, Rodgers, Maddox, Slay, and McPhearson coming back. Bradberry is finished but I don’t know the cap ramifications of moving on from him. 
 

The bigger issue in regards to extending Swift will probably come down to the DeVonta and Dickerson extensions that will be coming due. 

I don't think the Eagles can go into next season relying on Nakobe Dean at all. Can't stay healthy. Didn't show much when he was. Huge mistake to consider him anything more than a special teamer and depth at linebacker. 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Surprised more people aren’t talking about how broken our pass rush is. For all the money and draft picks invested in it that was a bad performance against arguably the worst offense and offensive line in the league. 

I’ve been saying that this group is way overrated! They lost quality players on the inside (Hargrave, Suh, Joseph) who also opened up things for the edge rushers. Sweat has been a disappointment after his strong start and Reddick can’t do it alone. They are not getting consistent pressure on the QB and when they actually do, they lose contain or just miss the tackle. 

Difficult for this defense to produce any turnovers if the vaunted line can’t generate consistent pressure.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Sweat and Davis are the most disappointing. Sweat has an elite get off, he should be getting more pressure than he is, he's better than this. And Davis I'm not even sure what he is. I didn't love the pick when they made it because of his lack of production at Georgia. I'm not even sure what he does in the NFL. In fairness to him, DTs usually don't break out until year 3. So maybe he's on track. But I said when they drafted him the only reason I didn't hate the pick is there was no one there I loved. Kyle Hamilton is looking like a much better player than him though even though you can't knock them for leaning DL over safety in the top 15.

There are teams out there with lesser talented lines getting more pressure.

Jordan Davis is a run stopper.  He does not have an impact on the pass rush.  At least not yet.  There have been a couple plays where he has collapse the pocket, but it doesn’t happen that often.  Lots of critics said that #13 was rich for a run stopper, and many said he’d be so much more.  He’s playing well this year, but he’s not more.

I would say that our defense lacks talent and that can only be disguised to a certain degree by a coordinator. 
 

The offense has a lot of talent, but the lack of a good coordinator (or whoever is responsible for the playbook) is the main reason for their insufficiency.

44 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

I beg to differ:

Jalen overcame that. We had a 10 pt lead at halftime even with that play. We lost the game in the second half.

 

The interception at the end of the jets game when we had the lead was the single worst play of his career. He threw it right to him when a throwaway and a punt probably win the game. The boneheaded heroball play when we’re up 17-3 also doesn’t come close

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Jalen overcame that. We had a 10 pt lead at halftime even with that play. We lose the game in the second half.

 

The interception at the ends of the jets game when we had the lead was the single worst play of his career. The boneheaded heroball play when we’re up 17-3 also doesn’t come close

The Eagles were driving and the Chiefs defense was reeling - that was a 10-14 point shift in the biggest game of them all.

I can't remember where I read this, but we're not only a low blitz team but also a lot stunt % team. So we're basically asking our DL to win without scheme AND with bad DBs.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

I can't remember where I read this, but we're not only a low blitz team but also a lot stunt % team. So we're basically asking our DL to win without scheme AND with bad DBs.

Sheil and solak had a whole segment couple weeks ago on the eagles where they were just not good when using stunts. 

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Why the hell did Carter only get 21 snaps? Did he get quasi benched after the too many men on the field penalty?

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Patricia can be super petty.

35 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's a Josh Sweat issue.

Teams are doubling Carter, using chip help on Reddick and Sweat isn't winning at all. The other DT away from Carter does get occasional wins (often Cox). Wish Nolan got a lot more of his reps.

If Sweat would stop trying to cheat by timing the snap count, and actually develop a secondary passrush move (or third) it would go a long way.

I'm so down on him right now.  If he doesn't immediately win and get around the edge he's virtually worthless.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Is he trying to say Bradberry is Sheldon Brown? 

Sydney 

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Did anyone ask Hurts about what happened at the end of the half? I’m assuming it was just a brain lapse, but was curious if he even had a response to that. 

I think he saw a tight window and thought he could get the TD.  Honestly it just wasn't a smart play, he admitted in his press conference he saw something and just reacted.   I guess the hole closed up on him fast and then he couldn't get back out of bounds. I understand his drive and will to win to get the TD there but he needed to be conscious of the clock so we could get one more shot.  

Sweat lacks strength so when he can't win with speed, he has issues. Which means Howie is probably going to make his one big free agent signing on another edge, meaning that once again the secondary will be neglected.

34 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t think they’ll quit on Nakobe, but they definitely need another LB which can be addressed in the draft. I think there’s a scenario where their corners next season are already on the roster with Ringo, Rodgers, Maddox, Slay, and McPhearson coming back. Bradberry is finished but I don’t know the cap ramifications of moving on from him. 
 

The bigger issue in regards to extending Swift will probably come down to the DeVonta and Dickerson extensions that will be coming due. 

Nakobe is at the stage where they shouldn’t quit on him but shouldn’t bank on him either.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Sweat lacks strength so when he can't win with speed, he has issues. Which means Howie is probably going to make his one big free agent signing on another edge, meaning that once again the secondary will be neglected.

How many negative outcomes do you come up with on an average day?

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

It really sucks in here after a loss.

Thrill of victory and the agony of reading about it the next day