2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Sheil and solak had a whole segment couple weeks ago on the eagles where they were just not good when using stunts. 

So the coaches on this team, both sides of the ball, are basically saying our guys should be better so no need to stunt, no need to blitz, no need to put WR/TE/RB in motion. There's nothing being done to win matchups other than saying, our guy should win since they are better.

This coaching staff....goodness.

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Gives you an opportunity to treat them like the Eagles. 

Complain about play calling, bust on Dak for his decision making, stand up and yell WTF!! on every missed tackle.

No thanks. I'd rather laugh at them.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d fire moorehead with him 

Both should be on the chopping block for this season. 

Rocker has talent along the DL, but is relying 100% on the talent to win.   When you say that they are bad at stunts and games along the front... that's a coaching issue, not talent.  They have plenty of talent that the stunts and games should be much more effective.

 

Meanwhile, Moorehead has top level talent, that sometimes gets too interested in their own stats and production and not the overall success of the team.  ALSO, who has he developed that didn't already come as a finished product?  No one.  AND... Quez has actually regressed, if that's actually believable.  We had all these high profile UDFAs too, and none of them are good enough to supplant a guy that literally can't track a ball in the air?  

 

And, we should call Howie and the scouting staff to the carpet again... why can't this team scout WR talent?   What is going on there?  Other teams find guys out of nowhere that can walk and chew gum at the same time to contribute something, meanwhile, we bring back Greg Lewis, go out and sign Julio Jones... just sad.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a nice stat... but that doesn't change the fact that they still have yet to play a full 60 minutes of smart, strong football.   Time is running out.    Maybe... just MAYBE they can find a way for a miraculous turn around in their level of play in the next couple weeks.  

There were only, IMO, four plays that dragged down the overall performance.

The KO fumble, the INT, the long TD allowed, and to a lesser extent Hurts at the end of the half.

Other wise, the score would have been something like 40-10 with Mariota taking snaps.

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Decide for yourselves.

 

 

 

They've had enough of his clown act especially as he shows himself incapable of turning things around effectively.

 

Just hope the next pushover they decide to go with has some actual smart offensive schemes to roll with. 

15 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

The video of the locker room and Sirianni speech is pretty embarrassing. Everyone looks down and cheerleader Nick is trying to be all happy and give props. 
 

the players just look like they’ve had enough of his BS 

Is it time to replace emotional intelligence with football intelligence?

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They weren't really using Barnett when he was here, either. He played more than 15 snaps only two times while he was here. And there's the whole Nolan Smith issue. They just refused all year to actually have a rotation. 

Taking some snaps better than no snaps. Curious if they're still one of the quickest groups off the ball... haven't looked in a while. They all look gassed to me with little explosion.

For some reason they don't like Nolan on the edge. Maybe he hasn't developed enough pass rush moves. Saw him playing some off ball LB which is interesting.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Vibes are completely off. Watch that and watch earlier this year. Something happened/is happening and it looks like the players are just done with this season.

They won the game but a lot of players are upset, you have to think they're tired of being put in bad position by play calling and knowing they have talent and should be better.

Having said that, after a game emotions are high and they are frustrated by things that should have gone better.  But a lot of the guys were also smiling and did not seem upset in the video either. Guys have different personalities and reactions and game day routines, and post game vibes.

I think collectively they expected to blow out these "easy" teams after "the gauntlet" and basically every game this year has been a struggle, ugly wins, a lot of mistakes and penalties and things.

1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

If I'm seeing things correctly, we're guaranteed the 2 seed if we win out because we hold the strength of victory tie breaker over the lions?

I don't think so, I think that's just how it looks right now.  If Detroit wins out, they will have beaten Dallas and Vikings again on the way to doing so.  Meanwhile, the Eagles would have beaten the Cardinals and Giants again... so Detroit's SOV goes up and the Eagles' goes down.   I think they edge us out on SOV, but playoff machine is acting weird for me.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

They won the game but a lot of players are upset, you have to think they're tired of being put in bad position by play calling and knowing they have talent and should be better.

Having said that, after a game emotions are high and they are frustrated by things that should have gone better.  But a lot of the guys were also smiling and did not seem upset in the video either. Guys have different personalities and reactions and game day routines, and post game vibes.

I think collectively they expected to blow out these "easy" teams after "the gauntlet" and basically every game this year has been a struggle, ugly wins, a lot of mistakes and penalties and things.

The only person I see smiling is Jordan Davis and I have never not seen that man smile. 

Slay is smirking, probably thinking about how great of a game he would have had. 

31 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I'm not rooting for Dallas. Can't do it.

Best case scenario is actually a tie in that game.   

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There were only, IMO, four plays that dragged down the overall performance.

The KO fumble, the INT, the long TD allowed, and to a lesser extent Hurts at the end of the half.

Other wise, the score would have been something like 40-10 with Mariota taking snaps.

Said by half the teams every week.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

They won the game but a lot of players are upset, you have to think they're tired of being put in bad position by play calling and knowing they have talent and should be better.

Having said that, after a game emotions are high and they are frustrated by things that should have gone better.  But a lot of the guys were also smiling and did not seem upset in the video either. Guys have different personalities and reactions and game day routines, and post game vibes.

I think collectively they expected to blow out these "easy" teams after "the gauntlet" and basically every game this year has been a struggle, ugly wins, a lot of mistakes and penalties and things.

I didn't think the play calling was bad yesterday. They mixed in the run pretty well. Wish they would abandon the slip screens but that's part of what they want to do for some reason. I still say if Oz doesn't smush Boston and Dallas doesn't slip the offense puts up 40+ points. I think they are tired of the silly boneheaded mental mistakes more than anything.

You can trace the bad vibes all the way back to the coaching.

The coaching is having them do the same stuff every week. The players have lost confidence in it because it's not working. It not working is causing them to be frustrated and annoyed. The fix for bad vibes is to get brighter minds on that coaching staff, which obviously isn't going to change this season.

If the Eagles are a quick out in the playoffs, there's going to be a ton of overreaction about the team needing a "culture change" and I guarantee you some idiots will blame AJ Brown and call for him to be traded to "fix the culture" because people have totally overblown the occasional sideline shot of him frustrated. But the reality is the best and real fix will be to hire better coaches to get better productivity, so your team isn't annoyed and frustrated in the first place. There's no such thing as a harmonious locker room where a team underachieves or plays poorly. It doesn't exist.

With all the turmoil of this season, how funny would it be if Eagles pull off # 1 slot in NFC and HFA. Any injury to Williams or Purdy puts that last game against the Rams as a dogfight with their playoffs hopes in the balance. Think 49ers get battered and fall apart either way. Also, don't see Lions beating both Cowboys and Vikings.

Eagles can get a lot of guys back and healthy with that bye week if they pull out #1 slot in NFC. Still optimistic here on a good ending. Lotta positives from our young guys yesterday with certain vets playing a lot better. Soon it will be time to stop  going thru the motions and get serious. Will see...

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't think so, I think that's just how it looks right now.  If Detroit wins out, they will have beaten Dallas and Vikings again on the way to doing so.  Meanwhile, the Eagles would have beaten the Cardinals and Giants again... so Detroit's SOV goes up and the Eagles' goes down.   I think they edge us out on SOV, but playoff machine is acting weird for me.

Nope.

It's common opponents.  Detroit has Dallas and Minny left on their schedule.  From Kempski article...

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think Sweat is still a very good DE. His problem, IMO, is the coaches overused him and for whatever reason decided this is the year he's not on a pitch count. They have protected him every single year and kept him around 60% or less. This year he's above 75%. It's a hard ask to have him out there so much when he's not used to it. It's like they want to use up whatever is left in his knee. 

Because behind him there is only Graham.  Bringing Barnett back was delusional.   Needed to spend a little money on a better depth DE than Barnett, with the money they gave Barnett.

6 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Is it time to replace emotional intelligence with football intelligence?

Lurie might lose ESG points if he does that. 

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Decide for yourselves.

 

I mean, they played like dogsh* against a team they were about to run over if not for random unforced errors. All three phases contributed to an embarrassingly easy three TDs for the Giants so it's not surprising that they're not all cheery.

1 minute ago, jojodancer said:

With all the turmoil of this season, how funny would it be if Eagles pull off # 1 slot in NFC and HFA. Any injury to Williams or Purdy puts that last game against the Rams as a dogfight with their playoffs hopes in the balance. Think 49ers get battered and fall apart either way. Also, don't see Lions beating both Cowboys and Vikings.

Eagles can get a lot of guys back and healthy with that bye week if they pull out #1 slot in NFC. Still optimistic here on a good ending. Lotta positives from our young guys yesterday with certain vets playing a lot better. Soon it will be time to stop  going thru the motions and get serious. Will see...

If they some how get the #1 seed and healthy... they have just as good of a shot as any. Playoffs are an entirely different animal.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Players sometimes make bone headed mistakes, especially rookies. But he's way too talented to be benched for it. If it's a pattern or he's got a track record, then that's a different story. How many low effort plays have we seen from AJ over the past couple seasons? Clearly you can't bench him for those, the dude is our best player on offense.

To be clear, I'm not a fan of coddling your star players, like at all, but I'm a realist, and also not interested in losing games because I was caught up in making an example of someone.

I don't agree with the number of snaps going that low... but at the same time, a message should be sent too.  

And yes, a message should be sent to AJ as well.  Dogging it is unacceptable. 

 

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There were only, IMO, four plays that dragged down the overall performance.

The KO fumble, the INT, the long TD allowed, and to a lesser extent Hurts at the end of the half.

Other wise, the score would have been something like 40-10 with Mariota taking snaps.

The DL not being able to register sack against a historically bad OL is bit disappointing.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't agree with the number of snaps going that low... but at the same time, a message should be sent too.  

And yes, a message should be sent to AJ as well.  Dogging it is unacceptable. 

 

Would be cool if the message was not to play those guys so many snaps. Brown and Smitty are on the field too much. Give em a breather more often

2 minutes ago, judunno said:

If they some how get the #1 seed and healthy... they have just as good of a shot as any. Playoffs are an entirely different animal.

I feel like our competitors would be playing down to end the season while at least we would be taking care of business.

23 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Decide for yourselves.

 

Meh.  They look fine.  No reason for a lot of hoop-la after a close win against the Giants.