6 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

With all the turmoil of this season, how funny would it be if Eagles pull off # 1 slot in NFC and HFA. Any injury to Williams or Purdy puts that last game against the Rams as a dogfight with their playoffs hopes in the balance. Think 49ers get battered and fall apart either way. Also, don't see Lions beating both Cowboys and Vikings.

Eagles can get a lot of guys back and healthy with that bye week if they pull out #1 slot in NFC. Still optimistic here on a good ending. Lotta positives from our young guys yesterday with certain vets playing a lot better. Soon it will be time to stop  going thru the motions and get serious. Will see...

The Eagles can beat any team and can lose to any team. That's more of an indictment on the competition than it is confidence in the Eagles though. The Niners are not a great team. Neither is Dallas. But on that spectrum of can beat anybody and can lose to anybody, I think they're slightly closer to the can lose to anybody side. Meaning I think they're more likely to lose to say the Rams in the playoffs than they are to beat the Niners.

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Meh.  They look fine.  No reason for a lot of hoop-la after a close win against the Giants. 

Ya looked like a group that expected to win that game. 

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Both should be on the chopping block for this season. 

Rocker has talent along the DL, but is relying 100% on the talent to win.   When you say that they are bad at stunts and games along the front... that's a coaching issue, not talent.  They have plenty of talent that the stunts and games should be much more effective.

 

Meanwhile, Moorehead has top level talent, that sometimes gets too interested in their own stats and production and not the overall success of the team.  ALSO, who has he developed that didn't already come as a finished product?  No one.  AND... Quez has actually regressed, if that's actually believable.  We had all these high profile UDFAs too, and none of them are good enough to supplant a guy that literally can't track a ball in the air?  

 

And, we should call Howie and the scouting staff to the carpet again... why can't this team scout WR talent?   What is going on there?  Other teams find guys out of nowhere that can walk and chew gum at the same time to contribute something, meanwhile, we bring back Greg Lewis, go out and sign Julio Jones... just sad.

I think they have coaching issues. They aren’t getting more out of Williams who was much better in 2022. Davis has plateaued after a good start. Sweat looks gassed and just bad mistakes in containment over and over again. Smith’s development has been baby steps.

Imo losing hargrave, suh and Joseph to go along with Davis, Cox and Williams and replacing them with just Carter and more snaps for Williams and Davis was always going to be an issue unless they made big jumps. Their depth along the DL isn’t there like last year. That might have been one of the deepest DLs we’ve ever had and guys like williams flourished to finish the year and sweat had his best season and arguably so did reddick. The eagles need better coaching but they also need better production from their depth to keep guys fresh so you aren’t wearing guys out like sweat, davis and Carter. 

12 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There were only, IMO, four plays that dragged down the overall performance.

The KO fumble, the INT, the long TD allowed, and to a lesser extent Hurts at the end of the half.

Other wise, the score would have been something like 40-10 with Mariota taking snaps.

I counted more.  

 

Lesser extent Hurts at the end of the half?   Nah.  On back to back plays he made bad decisions and cost the team a timeout and a chance at a FG.  Fortunately, he was bailed out by the Giants.   Carter late getting off the field extending a drive for the Giants was bad, very bad.   Carter then jumped offsides on a 4th and 4, but was bailed out by bad officiating.  Still boneheaded on his part, you have to know the situation and on 4th and 4, they are going to take a few chances to get you to jump and give them a freebie.  

In general, this team made a few really boneheaded plays but were bailed out by the lack of talent opposing them.  

 

And, you can try to recalibrate the score anyway you'd like.  The reality is that the Giants had the ball at the end with a chance to tie it.  It was in no way close to a 40-10 blowout... and that's the issue.  This team just doesn't have that killer instinct in them to actually finish off a team.  They have let them hang around all year.  It's almost as if they think once they get to a 10 point lead that the other side will just give up... and they get sloppy.   One or two weeks, you can excuse it and look for silver linings, when its 15 weeks of it... there's no more excuses, now its time to identify the problems and rectify them.  This should be a busy offseason in the coaches room, hopefully with a few new faces in the mix.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles can beat any team and can lose to any team. That's more of an indictment on the competition than it is confidence in the Eagles though. The Niners are not a great team. Neither is Dallas. But on that spectrum of can beat anybody and can lose to anybody, I think they're slightly closer to the can lose to anybody side. Meaning I think they're more likely to lose to say the Rams in the playoffs than they are to beat the Niners.

Playoffs are a clean slate and you can pretty much throw everything out the door. With HFA, they are as good as anybody. And I can see them winning a game on road if need be, if no HFA throughout. Team may be jelling at just the right time by then. And most importantly key guys being healthy. I.E.. Maddox, Slay, Hurts, Dickerson and Cunningham. Barring any further injuries, should be a pretty healthy team and just at the right time.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I counted more.  

 

Lesser extent Hurts at the end of the half?   Nah.  On back to back plays he made bad decisions and cost the team a timeout and a chance at a FG.  Fortunately, he was bailed out by the Giants.   Carter late getting off the field extending a drive for the Giants was bad, very bad.   Carter then jumped offsides on a 4th and 4, but was bailed out by bad officiating.  Still boneheaded on his part, you have to know the situation and on 4th and 4, they are going to take a few chances to get you to jump and give them a freebie.  

In general, this team made a few really boneheaded plays but were bailed out by the lack of talent opposing them.  

 

And, you can try to recalibrate the score anyway you'd like.  The reality is that the Giants had the ball at the end with a chance to tie it.  It was in no way close to a 40-10 blowout... and that's the issue.  This team just doesn't have that killer instinct in them to actually finish off a team.  They have let them hang around all year.  It's almost as if they think once they get to a 10 point lead that the other side will just give up... and they get sloppy.   One or two weeks, you can excuse it and look for silver linings, when its 15 weeks of it... there's no more excuses, now its time to identify the problems and rectify them.  This should be a busy offseason in the coaches room, hopefully with a few new faces in the mix.

Those unfortunate turnovers changed everything. No one saw OZ getting a force fumble on his own guy lol. Dallas stumbling out of his break sucked too... get that man some new cleats and some dance lessons. I agree Hurts needs to get his head together. Not sure what he was thinking at the end of the half. Had some "#5 Will Always Love You" like brain farts. The other brain fart was the horse collar tackle on the pick 6 out of frustration. Cost them a 2 point conversion.

22 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

So the coaches on this team, both sides of the ball, are basically saying our guys should be better so no need to stunt, no need to blitz, no need to put WR/TE/RB in motion. There's nothing being done to win matchups other than saying, our guy should win since they are better.

This coaching staff....goodness.

Maybe they know hurts has a hard enough time reading the D without motion making him process even faster

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Playoffs are a clean slate and you can pretty much throw everything out the door. With HFA, they are as good as anybody. And I can see them winning a game on road if need be, if no HFA throughout. Team may be jelling at just the right time by then. And most importantly key guys being healthy. Ie. Maddox, Slay, Hurts, Dickerson and Cunningham. Barring any further injuries, should be a pretty healthy team and just at the right time.

I'm more confident in the talent than the coaching. Personnel wise they're fine. Don't have confidence in the coaching maximizing it though. And have concerns if they're having this much trouble adjusting in the regular season, in the playoffs where you're going to get the kitchen sink from the other staffs, how overmatched are they going to look and if they do will the talent be good enough to make up for it.

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Playoffs are a clean slate and you can pretty much throw everything out the door. With HFA, they are as good as anybody. And I can see them winning a game on road if need be, if no HFA throughout. Team may be jelling at just the right time by then. And most importantly key guys being healthy. Ie. Maddox, Slay, Hurts, Dickerson and Cunningham. Barring any further injuries, should be a pretty healthy team and just at the right time.

Agreed. Getting some guys back would be nice and getting the younger guys some burn these last 3 weeks will pay dividends. Imagine if some how Patricia can get these guys to a middle of the pack type defense instead of bottom 2 :) Offense stops turning the ball over and clicking and suddenly you have a team that no one wants to really play.

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Maybe they know hurts has a hard enough time reading the D without motion making him process even faster

They're too slow getting plays in for one.

This was encouraging to see. I don't want them to completely hold back Hurts in this offense, but they need to get his confidence back a little bit and reign him in. I think they did that yesterday with some more routes underneath and quicker throws after the snap. They're not firework plays, but it's how you open up plays like the DeVonta TD. You can also tell his knee is getting healthier with how he's running again. We even saw that jab-step juke he's always done in the past. 

You can play a lot of what ifs, both ways. If Taylor makes a better throw and Waller doesn't drop it, he had nothing but green grass in front of him and probably scores. Instead he dropped it and they failed to convert 4th and 1. Another similar drive, if Taylor hits Barkley they extend the drive and cross the 50. Two plays that could have changed the score and possibly the game. What happened, happened. It is what it is. 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

This was encouraging to see. I don't want them to completely hold back Hurts in this offense, but they need to get his confidence back a little bit and reign him in. I think they did that yesterday with some more routes underneath and quicker throws after the snap. They're not firework plays, but it's how you open up plays like the DeVonta TD. You can also tell his knee is getting healthier with how he's running again. We even saw that jab-step juke he's always done in the past. 

He did that jab step juke when he was supposed to be running out of bounds so maybe he's feeling too good lol.

They are going to run DeVonta out of town. He just doesn't seem happy here.

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You can play a lot of what ifs, both ways. If Taylor makes a better throw and Waller doesn't drop it, he had nothing but green grass in front of him and probably scores. Instead he dropped it and they failed to convert 4th and 1. Another similar drive, if Taylor hits Barkley they extend the drive and cross the 50. Two plays that could have changed the score and possibly the game. What happened, happened. It is what it is. 

It is 11 - 4.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

It is 11 - 4.

That's irrelevant to what I said.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

They are going to run DeVonta out of town. He just doesn't seem happy here.

 

What does this have to do with Smith? Siri was probably telling Reddick to get his ass back out there because it's a 30 second timeout.

Smitty said the biggest issues on offense are communication and the small details.

Hurts also said communication was an issue.

Mailata said everyone is feeling the same way that they expect to play better and they have such high standards, they're not living up to them.

And as we know, AJ Brown didn't want to talk to the media, he nothing nice to say.

These sound like coaching issues.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm more confident in the talent than the coaching. Personnel wise they're fine. Don't have confidence in the coaching maximizing it though. And have concerns if they're having this much trouble adjusting in the regular season, in the playoffs where you're going to get the kitchen sink from the other staffs, how overmatched are they going to look and if they do will the talent be good enough to make up for it.

we as fans didn't realize that the OC and DC being replaced with position coaches with no experience leading their units was going to be such a bad move. the talent on the field is the only reason they have 11 wins , with competent coaching this team would have the 1 seed and not been in close games. this all falls on howie and nick

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Smitty said the biggest issues on offense are communication and the small details.

Hurts also said communication was an issue.

Mailata said everyone is feeling the same way that they expect to play better and they have such high standards, they're not living up to them.

And as we know, AJ Brown didn't want to talk to the media, he nothing nice to say.

These sound like coaching issues.

Nah can't absolve the players. They've been doing some dumb ish out there. It's both coaching and poor execution when the coaches finally do put these guys in the right position to make plays.

2 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

we as fans didn't realize that the OC and DC being replaced with position coaches with no experience leading their units was going to be such a bad move. the talent on the field is the only reason they have 11 wins , with competent coaching this team would have the 1 seed and not been in close games. this all falls on howie and nick

And they lost their secondary coach as well :(

The players themselves have failed as much as the coaches, collectively.

Pretty sure they don't coach running into your own returner on the kickoff.  Pretty sure they don't coach throwing 1-2 passes every single game directly to the other team.  I highly doubt they coach giving up a deep bomb in a 2 high safety look when literally the only goal is to prevent a deep TD pass.  I know they don't practice fumbling, they made sure to show us the pugil stick/fall down ball protection drill.

I think the players are probably just as frustrated in themselves playing like arse as they are with the coaching.  

 

"It's the whole damn team!"

-somd drunk guy 

 

A couple more wins vs. incompetent opponents might help. That's my hope for now.  Hell, every other team has had that except us. So why not.

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

What does this have to do with Smith? Siri was probably telling Reddick to get his ass back out there because it's a 30 second timeout.

watch until the end. DeVonta gets involved. Why is a WR stepping in between the HC and LB coach? Then after you can see him just looking frustrated and talking more. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's irrelevant to what I said.

I can't seem the find the relevance section in the Blog rule book.  😎

 

I agree.  There are a gazillion what-if plays in a game.  Tons of poor blocks, bad angles, missed calls.

But the KO fumble, slipping on the INT, and forgetting how many time outs you have, IMO, are outliers to the execution-like examples you gave.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

watch until the end. DeVonta gets involved. Why is a WR stepping in between the HC and LB coach? Then after you can see him just looking frustrated and talking more. 

When is Smith not talking on the sidelines have you not seen his mic'd ups lol.