1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Not necessarily scheme. how quickly people forget. The knock on hurts in his first year as a starter when he wouldn't throw in the middle of the field. Major blind spot for him holding back the offense. And it's on him.

30 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Anyone else patiently waiting for the Trent Williams update?

Groin issue, yes. If we lost Lane for a WAS game, I’d be very concerned as they play their best against us… but for SF, a disinterested tankie effort?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I thought they were the best, most coherent thoughts you posted in awhile 

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Groin issue, yes. If we lost Lane for a WAS game, I’d be very concerned as they play their best against us… but for SF, a disinterested tankie effort?

They didn't look like they were tanking on sunday with that switch to brissett that almost led to a comeback

But if they don't have him for rams week 18 it may get ugly 

2 hours ago, Know Life said:

I’m just now seeing how much dumb crap I posted while high last night. I apologize.

*insert "You post dumb crap even when you’re not high, lulz” comment*

I didn't notice a difference.    

9 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Those two things SHOULD NOT be connected.  Is the 49ers' running game dynamic?   How many rushing yards does Purdy have?

You can have both a QB that doesn't run much AND a running game that is dynamic.  We have the players to execute it.  We do not have a coaching staff that is willing to implement it.

Just because you prefer your QBs not to run does not mean the QB is not a dynamic runner. Purdy is not a dynamic runner, so yeah ... you don't want him running much. Steichen benefitted a lot last year by utilizing Hurts' legs by design --- a lot.

18 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not necessarily scheme. how quickly people forget. The knock on hurts in his first year as a starter when he wouldn't throw in the middle of the field. Major blind spot for him holding back the offense. And it's on him.

Do you love Hurts more than Barnett or just at the same level?

6 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

They didn't look like they were tanking on sunday with that switch to brissett that almost led to a comeback

But if they don't have him for rams week 18 it may get ugly 

Agreed - I expect the Rams to be a challenge with / without Trent.

9 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Those two things SHOULD NOT be connected.  Is the 49ers' running game dynamic?   How many rushing yards does Purdy have?

You can have both a QB that doesn't run much AND a running game that is dynamic.  We have the players to execute it.  We do not have a coaching staff that is willing to implement it.

Listening to KNBR in SF on my way home they were discussing how ineffective the Niners are running to the right side.  Because of the disparity between the left side of their OL and the right side, they are a one-sided running attack.  Dynamic to the one side. Not so much to the other side.

Baltimore was able to exploit that yesterday.

32 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Listening to KNBR in SF on my way home they were discussing how ineffective the Niners are running to the right side.  Because of the disparity between the left side of their OL and the right side, they are a one-sided running attack.

Baltimore was able to exploit that yesterday.

I heard that BAL was playing C6/C2 and Humphrey was doing an excellent job in run support to contain the outside runs. I could see Ringo/Bradberry being able to do this… Slay, well he can play quarters.

21 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Just because you prefer your QBs not to run does not mean the QB is not a dynamic runner. Purdy is not a dynamic runner, so yeah ... you don't want him running much. Steichen benefitted a lot last year by utilizing Hurts' legs by design --- a lot.

Mmm hmmm.  And yet, the point stands, that you don't NEED to have your QB be a running threat to have a dynamic running game.   The fact that the Eagles can't is an indictment on them and their lack of ingenuity, lack of creativity, and dare I say, lack of football IQ.  The pieces for a dynamic running game are in place on this team WITHOUT using the QB as part of that equation.  They are just too stubborn to build a legit running game, because it would mean going under center, using motion and *gasp* actually running a real NFL offense.

38 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not necessarily scheme. how quickly people forget. The knock on hurts in his first year as a starter when he wouldn't throw in the middle of the field. Major blind spot for him holding back the offense. And it's on him.

I just don't buy it.  He has thrown a number of good passes and even some 50 50 stuff in the middle.  It is scheme.  Even if he needs to see the open guy Devonta is always open.  Just look for him?

28 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

They didn't look like they were tanking on sunday with that switch to brissett that almost led to a comeback

But if they don't have him for rams week 18 it may get ugly 

Can WFT's D still beat teams up?  I haven't paid much attention to them. Who did they let go on D once they figured out they weren't going anywhere? 

The NFL product is as bad as I can remember yet the ratings have never been higher.

 

It's like this scene from the Wire: "We do worse and we get paid more"

 

40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I didn't notice a difference.    

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Mmm hmmm.  And yet, the point stands, that you don't NEED to have your QB be a running threat to have a dynamic running game.   The fact that the Eagles can't is an indictment on them and their lack of ingenuity, lack of creativity, and dare I say, lack of football IQ.  The pieces for a dynamic running game are in place on this team WITHOUT using the QB as part of that equation.  They are just too stubborn to build a legit running game, because it would mean going under center, using motion and *gasp* actually running a real NFL offense.

It doesn't bother me at all to go against the grain with an atypical NFL offensive system as long as it produces wins. My big gripe with this season is Hurts was too cautious early in the season. The bruised knee clearly had an effect as well, but that's not something a person can criticize a player for. It's clear at this point that the knee is fine again. I'm sure the Eagles will pretend it's still an issue, hoping to sell him as less than 100% to the opposition for some silly mental advantage. But the Eagles are already in the playoffs. They don't have to go all out for wins at this time and could just try to cruise through the last 2 games and get to the postseason without any noticeable new changes. In the postseason, I would expect to see Hurts running like he did last season which definitely opens things up a bit for the HBs. 

As I've said a couple times, I'm not all that concerned about the last two regular season games or how pretty we look. I want to see what this team looks like in a must win, postseason game. You are more than welcome to sit there dreading the postseason if that's what floats your boat. I know this team has been able to win 11 games so far and in the end, the win is the only goal. 

3 hours ago, Know Life said:

That’s the one I was talking about yesterday…

36 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Listening to KNBR in SF on my way home they were discussing how ineffective the Niners are running to the right side.  Because of the disparity between the left side of their OL and the right side, they are a one-sided running attack.  Dynamic to the one side. Not so much to the other side.

Baltimore was able to exploit that yesterday.

Yes... and the Eagles don't have that issue, because they have Mailata at LT and Johnson at RT, and they have Kelce in the middle, who can pull either way.    But, they run out of shotgun constantly, and that pretty much limits them to running inside zone, and getting 4-5 yards, max.   

42 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Do you love Hurts more than Barnett or just at the same level?

Barnett was far worse. 

I was one of maybe 2 on the entire EMB who supported the pick. The other may have been afan. We understood the pick from a cap perspective- not being able to pay like 9M for an elite backup, they took the chance that a high pick could provide elite backup QB play for a small price (3rd round rookie contract). 

Hurts showed all the weaknesses that made him a 3rd rounder during his starts in his rookie year. And his first full year starting ("basically a rookie" year) was rocky. He played...exactly how he has played these last 4 weeks. 

Hurts MVP season last year is for sure looking like an anomaly. But, at least we got to witness it. We have never experienced elite play from Barnett, or anything even close to it.

14 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

The NFL product is as bad as I can remember yet the ratings have never been higher.

 

It's like this scene from the Wire: "We do worse and we get paid more"

 

Christmas game probably helped with the ratings since everyone was at home around the television. But until an alternative comes around, football will always be king in this country. NBA, MLB, NHL, etc will never touch it. And the legalized gambling aspect of it and it being fantasy football playoffs helps. 

12 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

That’s the one I was talking about yesterday…

I don’t remember much of yesterday, lol. Refresh my memory?

Also, if anyone is wondering, she commented on the Eagles post… but her profile is private. ☹️

32 minutes ago, jamiller said:

Can WFT's D still beat teams up?  I haven't paid much attention to them. Who did they let go on D once they figured out they weren't going anywhere? 

Their top two DEs.   Chase Young and Montez Sweat.

I really love Smitty's comments the more I read them. He comes from a winning culture at Alabama, he knows what it takes, and he knows this team doesn't have it. It's hilarious some fans just keep pointing at the 11 wins when you have a dude on the team who basically just said those 11 wins don't mean jack ish.

AJ knows they don't have it this year too. I wonder if they're as annoyed with Hurts and his faux wisdom after the games as I am.

Man, Reub is on his high horse going hog wild responding to tweets tonight. Personal insults left and right.

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

I really love Smitty's comments the more I read them. He comes from a winning culture at Alabama, he knows what it takes, and he knows this team doesn't have it. It's hilarious some fans just keep pointing at the 11 wins when you have a dude on the team who basically just said those 11 wins don't mean jack ish.

AJ knows they don't have it this year too. I wonder if they're as annoyed with Hurts and his faux wisdom after the games as I am.

They also mean more because he never says anything publicly, and if a guy like that is saying something it means there are issues. AJ is more of the diva/loud mouth which I’m fine with as long as his production justifies it. But Smith isn’t that way so that feels like the last dam to break if he’s vocalizing his frustrations. 
 

None of us really know how Hurts operates off camera and inside the locker room. His shtick in front of the cameras just saying platitudes has been the same when they won a lot of games and he hasn’t changed. He’s remained constant in that way. I don’t think their issues are with Hurts as much as it is the coaching.