10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Are we paying Hurts $250m to be used as a battering ram on 1 yard TD runs?

We're paying him to score points. His ability to QB sneak is one of the best weapons in the NFL.

2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

So Rashaad Penny didn't feel bad being the only player wasting a roster spot.

2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

So Rashaad Penny didn't feel bad being the only player wasting a roster spot.

Albert O and penny not playing 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

We're paying him to score points. His ability to QB sneak is one of the best weapons in the NFL.

Is it?  Really?  Has the unstoppable and extremely high use of the tush push in 2023 done anything to make our red zone offense, 3rd down offense, or scoring offense any better than 2022?

They've regressed across the board in these categories despite the explosion of the tush push.  It may be unstoppable, but it's not one of the best weapons in the NFL.  It's a 1 yard play.  We aren't paying Hurts $250m for the QB sneak.

9 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

And now we actually have an outlet with Gainwell slipping out….guess what the result is

 

Pretty sure this was early in the game right? Then they just completely go away from it later in the game? It makes no sense at all. Have any reporters asked the coaches why they have not made any adjustments to this cover zero blitz? It's a massive problem and it's like they're completely oblivious to it 

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Is it?  Really?  Has the unstoppable and extremely high use of the tush push in 2023 done anything to make our red zone offense, 3rd down offense, or scoring offense any better than 2022?

They've regressed across the board in these categories despite the explosion of the tush push.  It may be unstoppable, but it's not one of the best weapons in the NFL.  It's a 1 yard play.  We aren't paying Hurts $250m for the QB sneak.

No it's not as good as 2022. Most of us agree it's on the coaching.

Despite that issue, we're a top 10 offense in every important metric. That is the QB's job.

22 hours ago, bpac55 said:

When I commented about DeVonta not being happy earlier I was thinking the same thing. The Bama mindset is just different. They EXPECT to win the SEC and the the Natty. They don't just want to win 10 games and make a New Years Day Bowl. Anything less than a Championship is a failure. That's embedded in them from day one on the Bama campus. People can hate Saban and Alabama all they want, but he's developed not only a culture of winning but a culture of domination and championships. Nothing else is good enough. When they win but don't play well, Saban is pissed. I get the same feeling from DeVonta now. Winning isn't enough.

I appreciate Smitty for feeling this way, but I'm not sure that kind of feeling works in the NFL. I feel like his mentality is right but he's going to be miserable, because being THAT good in the NFL is borderline impossible. I just hope we can keep him around.

58 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Pretty sure this was early in the game right? Then they just completely go away from it later in the game? It makes no sense at all. Have any reporters asked the coaches why they have not made any adjustments to this cover zero blitz? It's a massive problem and it's like they're completely oblivious to it 

Giants on one series sent a blitz each time and 2 times more than we could block. First down, the left side didn’t block well and the run lost 5 yards. Second down and third down, had a free rusher both times that went untouched and that blew up the play. Was no adjustment. we were like just gonna run what we do and hope blocking holds up and we can hit smith, goedert or aj down the field even though we have less guys to block the amount you are sending. 

My bday is Sunday, wife surprised me and got me tickets, haven’t been to a game in Philly in over 10 yrs. I’ll be driving in from Pittsburgh, hoping to be at the stadium around 9:30am. Any good tailgating spots? 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Giants on one series sent a blitz each time and 2 times more than we could block. First down, the left side didn’t block well and the run lost 5 yards. Second down and third down, had a free rusher both times that went untouched and that blew up the play. Was no adjustment. Just we were like just gonna run what we do and hope blocking holds up and we can hit smith, goedert or aj down the field even though we have less guys to block the amount you are sending. 

They cannot be this incompetent, right? ... orrrr are they

1 minute ago, RLC said:

No it's not as good as 2022. Most of us agree it's on the coaching.

Despite that issue, we're a top 10 offense in every important metric. That is the QB's job.

I actually think our scheme even last year was broken. I think the scheme Steichen runs doesn't work without absolutely excellent depth understanding of it, far more than most schemes. Unfortunately, Nick doesn't have that. This is an unfortunate case of when getting a young coach backfires, because they don't have experience with a backup scheme they can set up.

He needs to learn a different scheme somehow, probably through a new staff member from outside his network with high levels of experience. I don't actually think the problem is Nick for traditional reasons - I think the problem is Nick doesn't really have the tools to work with in this situation either, schematically. He doesn't have answers, but not because he's stupid. It's because he lacks versatile experience.

That's not a big problem if you have the humility to admit you need help though. The issue is that Brian Johnson is kind of in the way, even if he's maybe not the problem. If he's learning scheme from someone, they'd probably want to be OC.

I’ll say this…I don’t care what Sirrianis W/L record is, if he doesn’t find a way to drastically improve the design of this offense, specifically better blitz beater concepts, I want him fired.

I’m even willing to give him another year, but this off season he better bring in a real OC and give them full control of the offense.

Those videos I posted are damning. No wonder the offensive players are furious.

Siri brought a knife to a gun fight.

This has to be corrected.

West Virginia came to play tonight 

29 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Is it?  Really?  Has the unstoppable and extremely high use of the tush push in 2023 done anything to make our red zone offense, 3rd down offense, or scoring offense any better than 2022?

They've regressed across the board in these categories despite the explosion of the tush push.  It may be unstoppable, but it's not one of the best weapons in the NFL.  It's a 1 yard play.  We aren't paying Hurts $250m for the QB sneak.

I'd go so far as to say that it may actually be holding the offense back.   Hear me out:  Sirianni has gone on record talking about the fact that because of the Push, its a 1st and 9 situation all the time, and it seems that they try to get 9 yards to get in position for the push, especially in the red zone.  That's why 3rd and 6 is a QB draw play opportunity... all the time.  

 

And then there's the short yardage situations that do arrive.  When in 3rd and short, they go straight to the Push, which at best gains 2 yards.  They don't really have counters off of it that can lead to big plays.  We've been running it for almost two full years... and we can literally count the counters off of it on less than 1 hand.  Really unimaginative playcalling and the benefit of a play that is that successful is to have variations off of it that could lead to a big play... maybe in a situation like 3rd and 1 from midfield... but we have no such counter... or they are so content to get the yard and the first down, they are afraid to call the more aggressive alternative, while still claiming they need explosive plays.   

 

At this point, I want the league to ban it so that it forces this team to get creative again.  

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd go so far as to say that it may actually be holding the offense back.   Hear me out:  Sirianni has gone on record talking about the fact that because of the Push, its a 1st and 9 situation all the time, and it seems that they try to get 9 yards to get in position for the push, especially in the red zone.  That's why 3rd and 6 is a QB draw play opportunity... all the time.  

 

And then there's the short yardage situations that do arrive.  When in 3rd and short, they go straight to the Push, which at best gains 2 yards.  They don't really have counters off of it that can lead to big plays.  We've been running it for almost two full years... and we can literally count the counters off of it on less than 1 hand.  Really unimaginative playcalling and the benefit of a play that is that successful is to have variations off of it that could lead to a big play... maybe in a situation like 3rd and 1 from midfield... but we have no such counter... or they are so content to get the yard and the first down, they are afraid to call the more aggressive alternative, while still claiming they need explosive plays.   

 

At this point, I want the league to ban it so that it forces this team to get creative again.  

We arent really good at getting 9 yards anymore.

33 minutes ago, RLC said:

No it's not as good as 2022. Most of us agree it's on the coaching.

Despite that issue, we're a top 10 offense in every important metric. That is the QB's job.

Feels arbitrary.  The QBs job is to be top 10 in those metrics and it’s on the coaching that it’s still not good enough.  Couldn’t I say it’s the coaching’s job to make it top 10 and it’s the QBs fault it’s regressed and not good enough?

They are in this together.  The qb’s job isn’t arbitrarily to be a top 10 offense.  

Can anyone confirm this 

 

Is this the most dysfunctional 11-4 team in NFL history?

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd go so far as to say that it may actually be holding the offense back.   Hear me out:  Sirianni has gone on record talking about the fact that because of the Push, its a 1st and 9 situation all the time, and it seems that they try to get 9 yards to get in position for the push, especially in the red zone.  That's why 3rd and 6 is a QB draw play opportunity... all the time.  

 

And then there's the short yardage situations that do arrive.  When in 3rd and short, they go straight to the Push, which at best gains 2 yards.  They don't really have counters off of it that can lead to big plays.  We've been running it for almost two full years... and we can literally count the counters off of it on less than 1 hand.  Really unimaginative playcalling and the benefit of a play that is that successful is to have variations off of it that could lead to a big play... maybe in a situation like 3rd and 1 from midfield... but we have no such counter... or they are so content to get the yard and the first down, they are afraid to call the more aggressive alternative, while still claiming they need explosive plays.   

 

At this point, I want the league to ban it so that it forces this team to get creative again.  

 

Very telling how quickly and overboard a lot here have gotten to Juno back on their Jalen Hudts hate.  It's disgusting.  Fanbase really doesn't deserve him or the success he's brought.  At least it will be funny to watch all the same weasels have to do an about face again when this team goes deep in the playoffs for a second consecutive season ans maybe more.  

Embarrassing fanbase.

46 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

They cannot be this incompetent, right? ... orrrr are they

It’s been 2 years where the eagles are just not very good against the blitz. And at some point you are what you are and really haven’t done much to change it. 

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Very telling how quickly and overboard a lot here have gotten to Juno back on their Jalen Hudts hate.  It's disgusting.  Fanbase really doesn't deserve him or the success he's brought.  At least it will be funny to watch all the same weasels have to do an about face again when this team goes deep in the playoffs for a second consecutive season ans maybe more.  

Embarrassing fanbase.

In my defense, I've never spoken badly of Jalen Hudts. Not once. Never in my life have I ever criticized Jalen Hudts.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s been 2 years where the eagles are just not very good against the blitz. And at some point you are what you are and really haven’t done much to change it. 

I just don't understand how there seemed to be so much more creativity in the offense last year compared to this year. That can't all be because of Steichen. Where did all the passes to the middle of the field go? They threw one to Goedert early in the game against the Giants which worked great and then... crickets. There's so many simple things that would completely change games but they refuse to do them. I do not get it.