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3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Eagles were handicapped in the hiring process for DC in the offseason because of the timing of the Gannon hiring in Arizona.  They weren’t going to get their top pick of DC, and they’re paying the price for it.  Desai simply wasn’t the right hire.

Did Nick have 100% autonomy in hiring Desai, or was he a Howie/committee hiring decision?  A lot can be fixed with the defense by going younger and going more aggressive.  The best defenses in the NFL (SF, BAL, DAL, CLE) still play an aggressive philosophy rather than a two high safety shell defense).  The Eagles philosophically are too dependent on the DL disrupting the QB.  When it doesn’t happen the defense gets shelled.

 

Just saying if Gannon and cardinals would’ve let the eagles know that he was their top choice or a strong candidate there’s likely a good chance fangio is the Dc and not in Miami. Granted fangio has looked awful against ravens, Buffalo and eagles 

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I can’t decide what’s the most embarrassing. Losing to Zach Wilson, Drew Lock or pew pew man. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would agree with you more except spent a second round pick on Sidney Jones, who wound up being bad. They spent a third rounder on Douglas, who is actually good playing elsewhere. Brown is a 3rd rounder. Taylor was a third rounder. Dean is a 3rd rounder. Williams was a 3rd rounder. They’ve spent resources in the first 3 rounds and should have more to show for it then they do. their first round picks you can make that argument as they need to draft other positions besides DL, but the issue is they haven’t hit nearly enough in their defensive picks even when they spent on in the first round. I’d argue davis has been pretty mediocre considering what they gave up to get him and where he was selected. Has the same issues since we drafted him. Since 2016 the eagles have mills, Carter, sweat, maddox as draft picks who have lived up to their potential or where they were drafted (with the eagles not in gb or Buffalo). 

My post specifically focused on first round picks. They have never spent their best pick in any draft on defense at a non DL position since 2001. It’s absolutely ridiculous that they haven’t taken a non DL in the first round when they went defense in 22 years. It’s unsustainable. Need to diversify. And it’s extra infuriating when they’d rather take a DL to shore up a projected need that won’t become a need in 2 years than taking a player who’d slot right in and help them immediately. But that’s how they think. It’s all DL all the time.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I can’t decide what’s the most embarrassing. Losing to Zach Wilson, Drew Lock or pew pew man. 

Wilson 

30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Hate to post an ESP tweet but didn’t even think of this. 
 

Yikes 

Wow.  Let’s hope that’s not the case.

27 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Reddick? He hasn't had the year he did last season, but he's been one of the only players that has shown up. 

And we can't afford to cut Slay or Bradberry with the cap hit, iirc

we cant afford to keep slay and bradberry- THEY SUCK

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ringo hasn't been as awful as I feared he'd be... but he was really bad on the second to last TD.  

I don’t think teams are even really testing him yet. Arizona started to today on a few plays but we haven’t really played a good offense yet. Plus when you can run all over there’s no real reason to.

So the Eagles will play the Bucs and Baker in Tampa for the wild card round.  If they win, they will be rewarded with a trip to SF on 2 weeks rest.

So this season will mercifully come to an end either in Tampa or in SF no later than the divisional round.

Lost in the Eagles losing is literally every other thing the Eagles needed to happen today didn’t happen.

Saints won

Rams won

Seahawks losing

Worst NFL Sunday in a while

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can’t decide what’s the most embarrassing. Losing to Zach Wilson, Drew Lock or pew pew man. 

It’s kind of funny in a sadistic way that it wasn’t Mahomes, Josh Allen, or Tua who cost the Eagles the one seed and a division title. It was those three. 

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At this point I'm not sure how much blame to assign to Desai for the defense.  Patricia's results have been just as bad or even worse.  This defense is solely dependent on a superior pass rush, without which it gets totally exposed as has been the case most of this year.

It appears to be a Howie problem moreso than anything.

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

7-2 to 7-9.   Fired HC.

10-1 to 11-6.   ???   

 

I get it Siri is the HC.....   but it's the defense thats been losing the games,  when your Offense puts up 31....  they did their part- The Offense would have to be perfect to win with this defense. 

Now , yes Siri is the HC, but he didn't pick these players. Howie did. And now with Desai and Patricia both not doing well- it has to be the lack of talent on Defense. 

We THOUGHT the Defense had talent- But they really dont. The talented players would flash once and while even on a bad defense. Not one defensive player flashed today or at any time in the past 5 - 6 games.   we over rated the defensive talent. 

 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So the Eagles will play the Bucs and Baker in Tampa for the wild card round.  If they win, they will be rewarded with a trip to SF on 2 weeks rest.

So this season will mercifully come to an end either in Tampa or in SF no later than the divisional round.

If they lose to a team they beat pretty comfortable back in week 3, that would be such an indictment on Sirianni, I do wonder if something like that would piss Lurie off enough to make a move. It would be so embarrassing. The Bucs stink. And the Eagles already beat them.

Nick Sirianni sucks and has butthole eyes 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can’t decide what’s the most embarrassing. Losing to Zach Wilson, Drew Lock or pew pew man. 

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They lost to all 3, which is the most embarrassing of all.

Just now, Arsenal79 said:

At this point I'm not sure how much blame to assign to Desai for the defense.  Patricia's results have been just as bad or even worse.  This defense is solely dependent on a superior pass rush, without which it gets totally exposed as has been the case most of this year.

It appears to be a Howie problem moreso than anything.

It’s both. They’ve played better this year against better offenses. This was the talent playing horribly and the coaching not having them prepared. You don’t perform that bad unless every aspect fails epically.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can’t decide what’s the most embarrassing. Losing to Zach Wilson, Drew Lock or pew pew man. 

Kyler is good, Seattle was the worst cause Jets do have a great D

What even is the Vic Fangio System? Im so tired of hearing those 3 words said by all these analysts like it’s the Bible or something. I look around the league and all his disciples suck, their defenses suck, and even Fangio today gave up 56 points. 
 

what’s supposed to be so great about it? Did he win a couple of SBs with it or something somewhere?

Murray looked like Drew Brees vs the Eagles 

Nick isn’t going anywhere, but if they go on a two or three game skid next season at some point in the year we’ll be right back to where we are now. Players not talking to the media, leaks about locker room turmoil, and the machine will start to crank again. He won’t survive the year if they’re under .500 by the midpoint. 

15 minutes ago, xxeaglesfanxx said:

So why do the Cowboys own the spot currently? What is it coming down too? I know they have the same overall record, same divisional record, and we’re 1-1. What’s the next? Thought it was strength of schedule which the Eagles had the edge on? It doesn’t matter because they would just lose to a wild card team. I’m just curious.

this isn't the answer you wanted but........... why do you care at this point? This team is losing next week to Tyrod Taylor and the Giants and they will be one and done in the playoffs. 

This DEFENSE is historically bad, and the offense isn't historically good enough to out score most good teams. hell we couldn't outscire a 3-12 team

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

My post specifically focused on first round picks. They have never spent their best pick in any draft on defense at a non DL position since 2001. It’s absolutely ridiculous that they haven’t taken a non DL in the first round when they went defense in 22 years. It’s unsustainable. Need to diversify. And it’s extra infuriating when they’d rather take a DL to shore up a projected need that won’t become a need in 2 years than taking a player who’d slot right in and help them immediately. But that’s how they think. It’s all DL all the time.

I don’t know how they fix the defense. Can’t say they go to free agency and sign a couple guys and hit on some draft picks, but if it was that easy, they would consistently have a good defense. Go back to 2016, the eagles haven’t had a good consistency level on defense. It’s always up and down besides really 2017 and 2018 (by the end of the season). Some of that has been injuries, but for the most part when you try to plug a bunch of guys from free agency and you’re not drafting and developing at a high enough level. it eventually he’s going to catch up to you. you keep squandering draft picks on guys like Quinn and byard. They frankly would’ve been in the same spot with edmonds. They would be the same spot with edmunds, but they would have the draft picks. Ditto with Quinn.

25 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Is this the first time the blog has been in 100% agreement that we fire the fing OC? To add insult to injury with his FAIL screens he got Smitty hurt. Fer needs to go.

It'd still be Nick's offense. He's still game planning. Plus losing a OC means Hurts and the offense would have to adjust again

Best thing is when a HC is calling the plays and can adapt well enough when his coordinators get hired by other teams

4 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

What even is the Vic Fangio System? Im so tired of hearing those 3 words said by all these analysts like it’s the Bible or something. I look around the league and all his disciples suck, their defenses suck, and even Fangio today gave up 56 points. 
 

what’s supposed to be so great about it? Did he win a couple of SBs with it or something somewhere?

It's basically a conservative philosophical approach to limit big plays by keeping things in front, and consequently not blitzing too much, which risks giving up big plays.

I assume it's analytics driven.  But any coaching system is worthless without sufficient talent, which it's obvious we do not have.

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