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1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

Good luck getting a good candidate with the head coach on the hot seat and the total lack of talent on D.  We're better off cleaning house entirely.

Sirianni is not on the hot seat. The rest of the staff yes. Now if he refuses to fire his staff like Doug then he will be.

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Free agency: Jaylon Johnson and CJGJ. First round: CB. Second round: safety/LB. Third round: LB/S.Sign a couple solid veteran LBs that are actually good.

Hire a proven coordinator. In the NFL it’s never as good or bad as it looks.much can change in an off-season. We see this every year.

You can't force a CB round 1 just because. If the value is right then sure, but taking a corner over better players at different positions would not be smart. Unless you trade back. 

I really think they need to sign a free agent, 3 down middle LB. Not sure of the FA list yet but it's a major problem. Just sign someone and be done with it. I think that would help gel and improve this disgraceful defense in a major way. 

CJ seems like a nut. Not sure I'd want to go there now. Johnson, absolutely. Loved him coming out of college that year.

Just now, Ipiggles said:

I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that the defensive scheme isn't an issue.. it is... but even with a bad scheme, good players would still flash

and Yes the Offense at times isn't great- but it's head and shoulders above the Defense. If the Defense gives the Offense one  more opporunities, buy making ONE FREAKING STOP all game , they likely win this game. The Offense shouldn't have to put up 30+ every game in order to just squeak by, with the limited drives the O gets? Thats crazy. They have to be literally perfect and score on every drive, because the defense lets the opponent score ON EVERY FREAKING DRIVE 

Who is letting the defense off the hook?   But, this isn't about just today, this is about the entire season of futility.

The offense is often at times completely and totally dysfunctional - as it was on the series of plays that started at 1st and 20.  That wasn't bad offense, that was completely dysfunctional and they struggled to just get the right personnel on the field, and then on top of that, they ran give up plays.  That's coaching.  Offensive coaching.   We have playmakers on offense and the coaches refused to even give them a chance to make a play.  Run by Hurts... run by Hurts... bubble screen to Gainwell.  How'd that work out?  

Lastly, the defense needs a complete overhaul.  But here's the issue.  If they don't replace the offensive coordinator (at the very least), then we will be dealing with the same issues on offense, if not more, and we will continue to lose the players on this team and the in fighting will really start to resonate.  Brown has been upset for weeks, and has not refused to talk to the media because of it.  Smith made some comments last week, and now is injured directly because of the stupidity of that play call to Gainwell.  

They need to bring in a new DC, new scheme and new blood... Some talent on the back end would be huge.  But, they like to spend on offense, and scrape together on defense.  

We're not winning the Super Bowl, that's painfully obvious. So I have almost no interest in who goes (as long as it isn't Dallass, of course). If I had to pick a team to want to get there and win, I'll say the Lions. But it'll probably be a 49ers - Ravens rematch. 

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I can't even watch football right now I'm so embarrassed and disgusted. 

I still can't fathom how the team got so bad and my worst fears after blowing the SB seem to have come true, we won't be that good again for a while.

The more time that has gone by, it feels like that team will go down with the 2015 Panthers. A dominant team that lost the Super Bowl and never found its way again after that. Between lack of injuries and the schedule, it lined up perfectly for them last year. 

13 minutes ago, shlo said:

I still don't buy it. Miami isn't going to sit around while all the best D Coordinator options are being picked off and just wait for Fangio. They're going to make him a take it or leave it offer. Teams don't simply wait around. Nobody likes being the second choice.  

OK you believe wtf you want. but if he and the eagles would’ve had knowledge that there was a strong chance at Jonathan Gannon was going to be the head coach for the cardinals i don’t think he bolts to maimi and the eagles/Lurie inform him in his decision. He left cause he and the eagles saw Gannon was coming back that’s when he made his decision. His wife is from the area. He was in Philly last year. you think when he was well compensated for his help last year? Lurie isn’t cheap when it comes to coaches. So I’m guessing he’d have been well compensated. if the eagles and fangio knew Gannon was a strong candidate for the cardinals HC, I’m betting he would’ve chose the eagles for a lot of reasons such as family and already knowledge inside the organization and already at the facility.

let’s just the point something out, he didn’t have to do anything last year. Yet he was with the Eagles as a consultant and helping them in the game plan for the Super Bowl. You’re telling me there’s not a good chance if he and the Eagles thought Jonathan Gannon was gonna leave that he wasn’t being no. 1 candidate to be the DC for the Eagles? Yeah I have a hard time believing that when he was helping him last year 

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

You can't force a CB round 1 just because. If the value is right then sure, but taking a corner over better players at different positions would not be smart. Unless you trade back. 

I really think they need to sign a free agent, 3 down middle LB. Not sure of the FA list yet but it's a major problem. Just sign someone and be done with it. I think that would help gel and improve this disgraceful defense in a major way. 

CJ seems like a nut. Not sure I'd want to go there now. Johnson, absolutely. Loved him coming out of college that year.

I'm talking conceivably.

The FA list at LB isn't great. Mainly aging LBs like Lavonte David and Bobby Wagner. Much better than what the Eagles have but not long-term fixes. Patrick Queen if you like him. He's nothing special though.

19 minutes ago, shlo said:

I've never gotten this narrative. Even if Gannon knew he was a top candidate, it's very unlikely Fangio turns down the Miami job and waits it out. Would have been a huge risk. No guarantee Gannon gets the job. 

I think we possibly dodged a bullet by not getting Fangio. I'm so sick and beyond done with his defense. Our current guys can be let go very easily. Maybe after seeing this disgusting disgrace, the front office finally opens their eyes and turns the page on this garbage defense. 

2 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t care much about Brian Johnson and they can move on from him for all I care. I think this is a very rudimentary offense philosophically. But with that said, no offense could have overcame that display of defense today. Overall they played fine given the limited possessions. It’s not a sustainable way to win football games.
 

The offense and it’s play calling are clearly influenced by this defense. They play like they need a homerun and a TD every possession, because honestly they do given how poor the defense is. Offense goes three and out or has to punt, who cares? In most games with other teams you play the field position battle. But for this team it’s a killer because the opposing offense is in scoring range in a matter of three plays. 

I pretty much agree with this… I think some people are missing the part that some of their offensive problems are a result of the defensive problems.  Certainly not all of them, but some have been (depending how the game goes).  The offense certainly has its own issues that need to be addressed.
 

We lost a lot of defensive parts last offseason. I think the fanbase, largely anyway (myself included), just assumed that Howie was doing Howie things and everything would be just fine.  I remember the blog being mostly satisfied with how he handled the off-season.  Hell, I remember some people saying we’d be even better on D.  And that’s why this is a year-to-year league… That’s why they play the games.  
 

Part of me wants to blame Howie, and part of me wants to say I understand why he did it the way he did it.  
 

This should be an interesting off-season…

6 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Good luck getting a good candidate with the head coach on the hot seat and the total lack of talent on D.  We're better off cleaning house entirely.

Eric Bieniemy took an OC job with DC knowing River Boat Ron was on the hot seat so that isn't true

 

Get ready for the thrill when we flip the switch in the playoffs—after tricking the whole league into underestimating us. Our second Lombardi is on the horizon, all thanks to the genius of this coaching staff. Just wait, guys.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to head back to my lavish $40M mansion, my supermodel wife, who's a culinary maestro that never criticizes me and who enjoys butt stuff, and waking me up with morning blowies, my garage full of luxury cars, and the hefty $10B in the bank.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm talking conceivably.

The FA list at LB isn't great. Mainly aging LBs like Lavonte David and Bobby Wagner. Much better than what the Eagles have but not long-term fixes. Patrick Queen if you like him. He's nothing special though.

This team cant draft LB worth crap. Theyre better off trading a pick for a quality guy on his last yr of his rookie deal.

My man Covey didn't even get a return today did he :)

Just now, judunno said:

My man Covey didn't even get a return today did he 🙂

0 points 😭

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Eric Bieniemy took an OC job with DC knowing River Boat Ron was on the hot seat so that isn't true

 

A- this is not even a remotely comparable situation. They weren't competing for the same job at the same time.

B - Bieniemy took the job because he needed to be an OC who calls plays to get out from under AR's shadow. 

5 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The more time that has gone by, it feels like that team will go down with the 2015 Panthers. A dominant team that lost the Super Bowl and never found its way again after that. Between lack of injuries and the schedule, it lined up perfectly for them last year. 

Even the Cam Newton--let's live off of destroying our running QB--theme

3 minutes ago, shlo said:

A- this is not even a remotely comparable situation. They weren't competing for the same job at the same time.

B - Bieniemy took the job because he needed to be an OC who calls plays to get out from under AR's shadow. 

And yet he took a job knowing it would be only for one year so yeah they are the same, but you tried with your multiple bullet points. 

Head pat

Just now, judunno said:

My man Covey didn't even get a return today did he 🙂

Didn’t even sniff the field. That Cardinals Punter got paid more today than I ever will in my life by doing nothing but sit on his ass. This team is a joke it’s an embarrassment, nobody wants to play on this team and everyone should be pissed off. There’s no optimism, this team is just getting worse every minute and nobody is being held accountable. Worst performance I’ve seen today in a long time and it wasn’t even close. You just got your asses kicked by a 3 win team total domination. Gtfoh 

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

And yet he took a job knowing it would be only for one year so yeah they are the same, but you tried with your multiple bullet points. 

Head pat

The big difference is that MIAMI would not have waited around for Fangio to make a decision. They would have moved on to the next candidate. Nobody waits until after the Super Bowl to make their hires. So Fangio isn't looking at waiting a year. He's looking at getting a job as a DC or not. And Lurie definitely wasn't paying him enough to sit on the sidelines for a year to be a DC again.

13 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Vic Fangio gave up 56 points today.  I'm over the Fangio angst.  He wouldn't have made a difference with these bums.  We're devoid of talent on D.

Agreed on over fangio and his system. Would’ve still had same issues. However if the eagles and fangio knew Gannon was a strong candidate for the HC of the cardinals, it’s pretty obvious he was going to be the eagles no. 1 choice for Dc. He was already in the building working with the team. Frankly i think the eagles were hoping Gannon did get a job so they could replace him with fangio. fangio made his decision when  Gannon missed out on Texans and colts jobs and we all assumed he was coming back.

that said not changing anything as the personnel and scheme sucks. Just i have a hard time believing fangio wasn’t their top choice for DC and vice versa for fangio if they knew Gannon and the cardinals were heading down that road 

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

OK you believe wtf you want. but if he and the eagles would’ve had knowledge that there was a strong chance at Jonathan Gannon was going to be the head coach for the cardinals i don’t think he bolts to maimi and the eagles/Lurie inform him in his decision. He left cause he and the eagles saw Gannon was coming back that’s when he made his decision. His wife is from the area. He was in Philly last year. you think when he was well compensated for his help last year? Lurie isn’t cheap when it comes to coaches. So I’m guessing he’d have been well compensated. if the eagles and fangio knew Gannon was a strong candidate for the cardinals HC, I’m betting he would’ve chose the eagles for a lot of reasons such as family and already knowledge inside the organization and already at the facility.

let’s just the point something out, he didn’t have to do anything last year. Yet he was with the Eagles as a consultant and helping them in the game plan for the Super Bowl. You’re telling me there’s not a good chance if he and the Eagles thought Jonathan Gannon was gonna leave that he wasn’t being no. 1 candidate to be the DC for the Eagles? Yeah I have a hard time believing that when he was helping him last year 

I think it’s time we look at the Saleh/Ryans/Wilkins defense/coaching tree.   As bad as the Jets have been, their defense has been stout.  And nevermind about the 49ers defensive dominance over the past few years. 

If you look at this season without 2022 in your memory, it makes a lot more sense. Remember, after 2021, there were questions about Sirianni. People were asking what he does here if he can't call plays and the offense only got better when he gave play calling to Steichen. There were questions about Hurts and the turnovers and consistency. There were questions about the defensive personnel.

Then 2022 happens and it was such an amazing year people tucked those thoughts way into storage.

But in 2023, suddenly, those questions return. It would be a weird kind of irony if the Eagles this year got bounced by the Bucs in the WC just like 2021 did and you're kind of in the same place you were that season just a tiny bit better and more talented.

To better understand this season I think you need to delete the lightning in a bottle 2022 from memory, because in 10 years I think it's going to be widely accepted as an anomaly season that wasn't closer to what they actually are.

12 minutes ago, judunno said:

My man Covey didn't even get a return today did he 🙂

Against the fkng cardinals. Gannon took their lunch.

Nick should feel ashamed.

Just now, Ace Nova said:

I think it’s time we look at the Saleh/Ryans/Wilkins defense/coaching tree.   As bad as the Jets have been, their defense has been stout.  And nevermind about the 49ers defensive dominance over the past few years. 

That’s fine but your defensive scheme is only as good as your personnel that you employ. I agree need an organizational philosophy change on defensive scheme. But the bigger issues is no scheme is going to hold up when you lose guys like CJGJ, hargrave, suh, Joseph, Edwards, white, Epps and replace them with edmunds, Evans, Cunningham, broken down Leonard, morrow, a declining byard and a bunch of rookies. Add on overpaying two older corners who likely decline after extending them.

this is why I said weeks ago, fire Desai. It is not changing the problem. The bigger issue right now is you lack good enough personnel and your DLine is overrated. It doesn’t have the depth it used too. Desai wasn’t solving their problems at DC but neither was Patricia or anyone until they fix the bigger issue of personnel and development of their personnel