Listening to Solak and Huff tonight on their pods, they aren't saying anything that everyone here isn't already saying, but they're reiterating the sentiments about just how horribly coached the team is. Both just trashing the coaching staff on both sides of the ball to how they have absolutely nothing. No answers, no idea, nothing in the chamber to even try to mix it up a little. Just totally inept. Huff thinks Sirianni should be fired.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I answered what reason we have to believe it was Siri's decision.  I shared the quote where he said he it was his call.  

Yea, I know. Just saying. Fool me once shame on you and so on and so forth

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

For how flawed it is, this is still a good offense overall. 
 

Is it? They rely on three main targets on offense passing schemes. Hurts has proven to be a slightly better than average QB. The RB room is also limited and they are about to lose Kelce and roll with an aging RT. They need more diversity in talent and play calling and young guys need to step up and replace the holes in the OL that are going in the near future. 

3 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

I agree at this point I hope it's the browns and lions in the super bowl.

 

Baltimore though I think the eagles need to take a look at and I've said this before.  They changed the way Lamar plays this year with the new OC.  Why couldn't philly do the same with a new scheme and oc. Quit being stubborn and realize we need to change. Even Dallas made a change on the offense and Dak even if you don't want to admit had put up good numbers this year.

 

Their defense was always good but man that team is loaded on the defensive side of the ball.

Their OC came from college too.  Georgia I believe. 

Not only that but wasn't there rumblings about John Harbaugh being fired or on the hot seat just last year?

3 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I’m not defending the offense on that drive. It was a disaster of miscommunication and play calling in that sequence. But that drive was more than likely finished after the Mailata penalty and then Hurts taking the loss of yards. They still took three minutes off the clock and got into chip shot FG range for Jake to retake the lead. 
 

Complaining about the offense in this game is kind of like complaining about a table with a squeaky leg when the roof just caved in. For how flawed it is, this is still a good offense overall. And if they just had an average or heaven forbid an above average defense to complement them, they’d be in Super Bowl contention. 
 

This defense has never, not once in the past month a a half picked up for the offense. It’s demanded that the offense be perfect every single freaking drive. The offense can go three and out, punt, pin the opposing team inside the 20, and they’re already in scoring position 3-4 plays later. So when you get sequences like you did there after the onsides kick where they still took time off the clock and got three points, everyone knew it wasn’t good enough. 
 

It’s like trying to make up for a slow fat kid in a relay baton race. He never puts you in a position to win the race regardless of how fast the other runners are. 

I'm complaining about ALL of it.  

But, the Eagles didn't achieve anything with that drive.  They were gifted the ball at the 45 yard line by the Cardinals.  They got 10 yards.   And due to their incompetence, they bled the clock to their own detriment.  

The offense has been broken all year.   The defense has been broken all year.   It's ok to say so.  Like I said earlier... 4 consecutive QB runs on that drive.  That's pathetic offense outside of high school.

Sheil:

Have yet to break down the film, but on paper, but biggest wrinkle Patricia had today was to drop Reddick in coverage more. Had 21 snaps dropping into coverage, a season high.

A complete and utter joke.

How was Julio Jones the only WR even in the vicinity of the final Hail Mary? Not that it matters or anything but just seems like another case of terrible situational football.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Listening to Solak and Huff tonight on their pods, they aren't saying anything that everyone here isn't already saying, but they're reiterating the sentiments about just how horribly coached the team is. Both just trashing the coaching staff on both sides of the ball to how they have absolutely nothing. No answers, no idea, nothing in the chamber to even try to mix it up a little. Just totally inept. Huff thinks Sirianni should be fired.

They won’t fire sirianni after one year. I’d be pretty surprised. I do think reich is likely going to be here coaching next year. What capacity is unknown. Probably should be at OC. I think it’s likely his best role and he has enough experience to understand game flow. I think he got shafted in Indy with injuries and panthers being a dysfunctional mess and drafting a guy he didn’t want.

Defensively is the bigger issue. Have a ton of personnel issues. So I’m not sure what great coordinator wants to take over a defense with the issues they have. And how stubborn the eagles are with keeping with the same fangio philosophy 

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If you can’t beat ARI you can’t beat anybody, and playoff seeding matters zero 

that's wrong.

it's obviously wrong.
Things like that - good teams losing inexplicably to bad teams - happen all the time.

You ever hear - Any Given Sunday

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Their OC came from college too.  Georgia I believe. 

Not only that but wasn't there rumblings about John Harbaugh being fired or on the hot seat just last year?

Yeah Todd munkin spelled that wrong I'm sure 

It’s a weirdly repetitive pattern with Howie.  He absolutely nails a rebuild and then does amazing gymnastics to patch the remaining holes with a perfect success rate in a crescendo season for a juggernaut team…and then after that season, nearly every move he makes…extensions, trades, draft…to preserve that team…just turns to complete ash.

Even down to the likely great first draft pick after 2017 and 2022…Dallas Goedert and Jalen Carter.  Multi-year starters, multi-contract, pro-bowl…but both emphasized the asymmetric and poor distribution of talent on a team with big holes going backwards.  

 

3 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

Is it? They rely on three main targets on offense passing schemes. Hurts has proven to be a slightly better than average QB. The RB room is also limited and they are about to lose Kelce and roll with an aging RT. They need more diversity in talent and play calling and young guys need to step up and replace the holes in the OL that are going in the near future. 

Exactly.  Currently, it is a very TALENTED offense, which is very different from a very GOOD offense.  And they should be dramatically more dynamic based on the talent they do have.  

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They won’t fire sirianni after one year. I’d be pretty surprised. I do think reich is likely going to be here coaching next year. What capacity is unknown. Probably should be at OC. I think it’s likely his best role and he has enough experience to understand game flow. I think he got shafted in Indy with injuries and panthers being a dysfunctional mess and drafting a guy he didn’t want.

Defensively is the bigger issue. Have a ton of personnel issues. So I’m not sure what great coordinator wants to take over a defense with the issues they have. And how stubborn the eagles are with keeping with the same fangio philosophy 

Maybe we can bring in Matt Canada 

2 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

that's wrong.

it's obviously wrong.
Things like that - good teams losing inexplicably to bad teams - happen all the time.

You ever hear - Any Given Sunday

Yea except it’s really not inexplicable anymore.

 

Another really annoying aspect of today's game was that we have given Dallas a much easier path to their first championship game in close to 30 years. They will probably now play the niners in the NFCCG.

 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Yea except it’s really not inexplicable anymore.

Oh yeah, there is a explanation.  

Just now, manz2821 said:

Another really annoying aspect of today's game was that we have given Dallas a much easier path to their first championship game in close to 30 years. They will probably now play the niners in the NFCCG.

 

Yes, hopefully they lose but I wanted their losing streak in divisional round to continue. 

Not that it matters but if they had lost yesterday the eagles still would have have been in drier's seat for NFCE title. Commanders aren't going to be boys. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Should have tried Mariota at LB.

1 minute ago, manz2821 said:

Another really annoying aspect of today's game was that we have given Dallas a much easier path to their first championship game in close to 30 years. They will probably now play the niners in the NFCCG.

 

In the end it’s on the Eagles for losing today, but the ripples of that blown call last night were astounding and have reverberated to impact three teams in Dallas, Detroit, and us all in different ways. 

25 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I said at the beginning of the year I didn’t think they were gonna get back there. Too tough. And the niners we’re gonna use that loss as a chip on their shoulder. I thought they lost way too many guys on the defensive side of the football and they weren’t gonna be able to make up. Just cause you signed some guys doesn’t mean the adequate replacements. Really the only decent replacement they got for the guys they lost was reed Blankenship for Epps and Carter. But  Carter alone wasn’t going to make up for losing suh, Joseph and Hargrave. The office I thought would be good enough to make up for the regression of the defense. And by the end of the year you hoped that the defense would jail to the point that they could be competent. But the office has bad playcalling at times, a turnover problem, inconsistent hurtd and misusage of personnel 

However, there are bigger long-term concerns to me than just this year. I think it’s gonna take them about another off-season to get their defense where they want it to be as a championship level defense. And that’s if you get the right guys in draft and FA, young guys make jumps and hire the right DC. I thought the eagles defense needed almost a complete rebuild after 2020. I still feel that way now. They won’t do it cause they will be stubborn and financially they can’t really afford too, but I’d love to just move on from bradberry, slay, graham, Cox, byard, Cunningham and Leonard. Just go completely young and let’s see who sinks and swims. Fast we find out the fast we can start looking for other options.

On offense, i think pieces are there to be really good next year but need a change at OC. Johnson should be getting better each week and seeing improvements. He’s not. Same mistakes and issues he had back in September. We are basically the same as we were week 1 when we questioned it. Guys are frustrated. Hurts needs to get back to being more consistent, not being a turnover machine and seeing the field better. Cause if he’s gonna be super inconsistent this is the type of season you are gonna get. We also need to fix the running game cause too often it’s inconsistent week to week and series to series. we have no creativity in this office. It’s simply about our best guys are going to be your best. And at some point in time you’re going to run into teams were you can’t do that.

Maybe the Eagles come back in 2024, and they’re refreshed, new mindset and they don’t have a Super Bowl hangover/brutal schedule and all the stuff goes away. But I have a feeling you’re going to see another regression next year. 2024 is going to tell us a lot about where the eagles stand as an organization. Also show us where the defense, sirianni and where they go moving forward. Also going to see if hurts is closer to 2023 or 2022. I think 2024 is a major crossroad for the eagles organizationally. 

They need an offensive philosophy change and that starts with Howie and Jeff. There are so many creative offensive minds out there who would love to have Smith, Brown, and DG. Those three alone should be unstoppable with the right play design and schemes to get them open in space. There is no excuse....could you imagine what Andy or MS, or MM would do with them? I get their search started late but BJ was the best option? Bull. 

The Chiefs pretty much went young in the secondary and won a SB last year. I don't trust Howie to rebuild anything. He gets so much credit but has gotten lucky and made some trades giving up good picks. He's also blown so many damn picks and made some horrible trades. He still can't draft DE for crap going with Smith over JP Jr. 

Between Brown and Ghost they should have one safety. We have to hope one of Ricks/Ringo can become one starter. 

One CB, at least two LB, DT, DE. 

Offense: One OL, 3rd WR, 2nd TE, RB

I'd love to see Queen but doubt they'd do it. If they sign him maybe Van and a cheaper vet can fill out the rest. Then draft CB, S, and OL with the first three picks, space eating DT and a RB later. Not like Hurts will throw to a good 2nd TE or slot WR anyway. 

2 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Another really annoying aspect of today's game was that we have given Dallas a much easier path to their first championship game in close to 30 years. They will probably now play the niners in the NFCCG.

 

Tbh if the lions manage to make it to the divisional round, i think the lions are gonna play with a chip on their shoulder based on what happened. I feel like Dallas should be cheering for the lions to lose that wild card game 

3 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Another really annoying aspect of today's game was that we have given Dallas a much easier path to their first championship game in close to 30 years. They will probably now play the niners in the NFCCG.

 

Silver lining, they’ll get smoked and lose 3 years in a row to the same team 

I think we’ve seen Lowie respond to different situations long enough and enough times that we can reasonably predict their course of action. 

The 2024 DC is not with the organization right now (obviously).  They’ll leave Fangio University and will go in a different direction (that’s no guarantee of better results).

The 2024 OC is likely not with the organization either…and the common sense move to go with a familiar name is not outside the realm of possibility.  If Hurts really, really goes to bat for BJ, I do think it’s conceivably possible that Lowie listens and they keep him as OC in a "run it back” year where everyone’s ass is on the line.  

And HC…I think they take a genuine, long look at moving on from Siri.  They likely *want* to give him 2024 to save his job (there are only so many capable HC’s out there that will quietly allow Lowie to do their thing)…but the player frustration and locker room dysfunction that we sense but don’t really understand…that’s what Lowie will do a deep dive into.  And that’s what will determine Siri’s fate.  

I didn’t see this til now. Shocking maddox is hurt again. Dude is made of glass