Ravens will likely rest their starters to some capacity, so this is a very real scenario for Buffalo. 2 seed or no playoffs at all. Wild scenario.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think history will show that if we don't fire him, it is a mistake when we look back on it. There are two aspects of it. There's the "does he deserve it?" and "Was it the smart decision?" if it happens. Those are two separate things entirely. Does he deserve it? Probably not. Although I'd argue there's no deserve in sports, there's just cause and effect. But based on merit and success equity and all that, he probably doesn't deserve it.

But I've seen this story before. I know the look of a coach who's completely out of answers and has nothing left in the chamber. I think we're seeing it now with Sirianni. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but that's the feel I get. I don't always feel that. Didn't feel it with Doug, although I was fine with them firing him, but I was ok with him staying if he allowed changes to his staff. I didn't feel that way with Reid. I thought it was probably time to move on, but I always had faith in Andy having some counter ideas. But with Chip I thought the guy was a mush who had absolutely nothing left, and I'm getting those same vibes with Sirianni right now.

And if they have to bring in an OC who fixes his offense for him, then what's the purpose of even keeping him. What would his role even be?

I think last year showed he can have success with the right guy in Steichen.  It's not happening with BJ.  Although I won't say the offense is terrible by any means just not as good as last year.

If this is Sirianni's offense, why does it look so different than last year?  Was it Sirianni offense last year or was it Steichen?   Is it Sirianni offense this year or is it BJ's offense?  I'd also love to know why Hurts never changes plays at the line to a better play.  If BJ calls in a play on that last FG drive for a QB keeper why can't Hurts look at the defense and say Nah we're running this instead?

Not that it matters based on how they're playing, but he will play in the playoffs if tests confirm mild sprain.

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

What sort of draft capital would Jalen Hurts fetch in a trade?

Yes, I'm serious. 

Next to nothing with that contract 

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

QB whisperers get HC jobs.

At this point I’d be ok with a former head coach that didn’t quite make it as a head coach but was a successful coordinator at some point. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Not that it matters based on how they're playing, but he will play in the playoffs if tests confirm mild sprain.

Thats good news. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

At this point I’d be ok with a former head coach that didn’t quite make it as a head coach but was a successful coordinator at some point. 

So Frank reich who already has a relationship with sirianni and the eagles. Problem is does he want to be an Oc at 62 and when Carolina is paying him a ton of money to sit at home. 

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

I think last year showed he can have success with the right guy in Steichen.  It's not happening with BJ.  Although I won't say the offense is terrible by any means just not as good as last year.

If this is Sirianni's offense, why does it look so different than last year?  Was it Sirianni offense last year or was it Steichen?   Is it Sirianni offense this year or is it BJ's offense?  I'd also love to know why Hurts never changes plays at the line to a better play.  If BJ calls in a play on that last FG drive for a QB keeper why can't Hurts look at the defense and say Nah we're running this instead?

That's the big question. Did he have success last season with Steichen or did he have success last season because of Steichen? Right now I'm feeling the latter. This is Sirianni's offense. But I think Steichen took a bland vanilla offense and was able to polish a turd. I think Johnson isn't good enough to do that. I'd rather have a head coach whose offense doesn't need to be polished at all.

Was yesterday just a bad dream?  
 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So Frank reich who already has a relationship with sirianni and the eagles. Problem is does he want to be an Oc at 62 and when Carolina is paying him a ton of money to sit at home. 

Maybe.  But there’s got to be other options out there as well.  And there may be more available after the season - (good chance there will be coaching changes around the league, etc) 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just to revisit a conversation from last week:

Is there anyone that still wants Patricia here next year? 

Aside from Stoutland, I can't think of any current coach I "want" next year. Definitely not Patricia though.

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Said the same thing last night. I think there’s multiple issues going on. First some poor coaching from sirianni, Johnson and the DCs. Every week it’s the same sloppy playcalling and at times play calling that makes absolutely no sense.

Second the lack of playmakers on the back 7. A lot of guys with name value but not playing up to their name value. Everyone wants to say they aren’t this bad and it’s because in the past they guys played better and better positioned. They also were younger and better players. Byard wasn’t good with vrabel and the titans this year. It’s been the same here. two different organizations this year have saw his decline and drop off. Bradberry has done this throughout his career. He’s up and down. one year good and then next year regresses. What he did in Carolina and Ny  

Third, the DLine is overrated and playing too many snaps. A guy like sweat hasnt played well in like 2 months. And it’s not just poor play, he doesn’t do the little things necessary to win. For instance not keeping containment or just crashing in and getting burned to where he is supposed to be. The defensive line also has a depth issue and looks to be gassed. They played a ridiculous number of snaps in that Buffalo game and haven’t looked remotely good since against some bad olines. Which leads to part four.

Fourth, i think this team looks out of gas. For once i agree with ESP. They look like losing the Super Bowl and dealing with that loss then going through the schedule they did has zapped whatever energy and mojo they had left. Imo i think the back to back games of high energy and emotions of kc and Buffalo left little in the reserve. Besides lack of talent at linebacker and poor declining secondary, i think it’s part of the reason why this team plays sloppy for long stretches of games and the defense just gets pushed around in the run game. I don’t think they have anything left in the tank. 

Howie needs to stop the mid-season trades.

Golden Tate sorta helped.

Genard Avery didn't work 

Robert Quinn didn't work 

Kevin Byard didn't work

3 hours ago, judunno said:

Homefield isn't even an advantage when the fans are booing and don't even know when not to be loud.

Yup, if the actual fans are harmful,  it's best to have road games.

The Eagles are intentionally losing to get away from their terrible fans.

The Eagles can win the Super Bowl.  Any Given Sunday.  Brock Purdy is not some unstoppable juggernaut.  He looked terrible v the Ravens.

13 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I think last year showed he can have success with the right guy in Steichen.  It's not happening with BJ.  Although I won't say the offense is terrible by any means just not as good as last year.

If this is Sirianni's offense, why does it look so different than last year?  Was it Sirianni offense last year or was it Steichen?   Is it Sirianni offense this year or is it BJ's offense?  I'd also love to know why Hurts never changes plays at the line to a better play.  If BJ calls in a play on that last FG drive for a QB keeper why can't Hurts look at the defense and say Nah we're running this instead?

I think the major issue is that it is the same offense but teams have countered it.  The MAJOR issue is that we have failed to counter their "counter” - which is mandatory if you want to succeed at the NFL level.  
 

There’s a reason Andy Reid has been successful over the past 20+ years and is a HOF level coach.  He consistently adapts and adjusts his offenses based on the talent he has and based on how his offenses are countered by defenses, etc etc etc.

 

For example, there was a recent report out of KC that Reid was going to simplify his offense because recent lack of success.  Guess what?  It worked and they just won their last game.  This is what successful head coaches do. 
 

And no, I’m not saying the Eagles need to simplify their offense.  If anything, it’s the opposite with this team.  

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Howie needs to stop the mid-season trades.

Golden Tate sorta helped.

Genard Avery didn't work 

Robert Quinn didn't work 

Kevin Byard didn't work

I’d add he also can’t wait til august to sign his best linebacker which was Cunningham. The gross neglect at linebacker just assuming Dean would make a jump backfired. Morrow is a JAG, Cunningham is old and shouldn’t be expected to make it through 17 games and Leonard is washed. The eagles have had some mediocre to below average Lb corps in the past. I’d argue this up there as their worst in the last 15 years. 

7 minutes ago, B3 said:

Was yesterday just a bad dream?  
 

Right? Mofos. I woke up feeling so damn sick again. Hate the team this year. 

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Thats good news. 

We'll know they've gone insane if he plays against the Giants.

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just to revisit a conversation from last week:

Is there anyone that still wants Patricia here next year? 

Probably not.

Sounds like the thing I complimented him on (using athletes in various different positions) got carried away and he ended up using Reddick in coverage too much. 

IF he is retained, and I dont think he will be- things could look very different when he is allowed to run his own defense. Reportedly, he is still running Desai's defense, which is dumb because that defense sucked. So IF it were to happen, I will be hopeful for that. 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Jim Harbaugh is a great coach. I know people don’t want him because he’s coming from college but he already had a ton of success at the NFL level. I’m telling you, not firing Sirianni this off-season will be a mistake. They likely won’t do it, but they should. Not just because he sucks, but because there’s some really good coaches available this cycle and there might not be next time. Need to pounce when they’re available and the Eagles would be a desired destination. All Harbaugh does is win.

In regard to the last sentence, he lost the Super Bowl to his brother so that's simply not true. 

In defense of Patricia...he stepped into a dumpster fire.  He never had time to do his thing.  This defense would suck next week if you brought JJ back to run it.

So what Patricia has is an excuse.  What he doesn't have is any good reason to be the DC next year.  A legit excuse doesn't mean he doesn't suck too.  

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

What sort of draft capital would Jalen Hurts fetch in a trade?

Yes, I'm serious. 

Easily 2 1sts at the end of this season. Too many teams without top 10 picks that need QBs. Atlanta, Denver, Las Vegas, etc.

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I think the major issue is that it is the same offense but teams have countered it.  The MAJOR issue is that we have failed to counter their "counter” - which is mandatory if you want to succeed at the NFL level.  
 

There’s a reason Andy Reid has been successful over the past 20+ years and is a HOF level coach.  He consistently adapts and adjusts his offenses based on the talent he has and based on how his offenses are countered by defenses, etc etc etc.

 

For example, there was a recent report out of KC that Reid was going to simplify his offense because recent lack of success.  Guess what?  It worked and they just won their last game.  This is what successful head coaches do. 

Sirianni will never change "his" offense, he's arrogant and thinks there's nothing wrong with it

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

In defense of Patricia...he stepped into a dumpster fire.  He never had time to do his thing.  This defense would suck next week if you brought JJ back to run it.

So what Patricia has is an excuse.  What he doesn't have is any good reason to be the DC next year.  A legit excuse doesn't mean he doesn't suck too.  

yep.

22 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

March 18, 2022: Browns agree to terms on Watson trade with Texans. Cleveland traded its 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, 2023 third-round pick and fourth-round picks in 2022 and 2024 for Watson and a Houston 2024 sixth-round pick.

 

The Russell Wilson trade is finally in the books. Denver traded three players and four draft picks across the 2022 and 2023 drafts and also swapped a 2022 draft pick in March 2022 in order to acquire the eight-time Pro Bowler.

I'd take either trade for Hurts and rebuild. They need too much and even with tons of talent he wasn't enough of a difference maker to justify 50 million. That's 4-5 other pieces. 

I’m actually surprised Maddox only played 38% of snaps. He sure made the least of each one.