2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jim Harbaugh or Ben Johnson.

Johnson has two years as an OC.  That's his coaching experience.  Other than that he's been a position coach only; his resume isn't any more extensive than Sirianni's was.  Jim Harbaugh is a f'n nut, and his act would grow thin with grown men really fast.  Wasn't Michigan better this year while he sat out suspended?  

30 minutes ago, judunno said:

Don't you dare leave out Baby Rhino.

Top early to crown his a** 🙂

We all knew going in that Sirianni was a young head coach with a limited network.  Guess who else knew that?  Howie and Lurie.

It's pretty unfair to the guy for calling for him to be fired when he's already gone through one iteration of coordinators and position coaches.  That is where Howie and company need to help him.  This is the 2nd coach in a row where this has happened. They made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.

Theyve always fostered a "promote from within" culture and this isn't the first time we've seen the well run dry due to brain drain.  Get Sirianni some old heads who aren't interested in jumping ship.  Reich is a perfect hire, they should offer him whatever he wants and give him a soft title like "quality control" where he can do a little bit of everything.

Same on defense, get someone who is like a Jim Schwartz who has made money already and just wants to coach.  Let Sirianni develop with an actual support group around him.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Johnson has two years as an OC.  That's his coaching experience.  Other than that he's been a position coach only; his resume isn't any more extensive than Sirianni's was.  Jim Harbaugh is a f'n nut, and his act would grow thin with grown men really fast.  Wasn't Michigan better this year while he sat out suspended?  

So? And how do you know Johnson wouldn't be good? He's a bright offensive mind, maybe it works maybe it doesn't like any hire.

Harbaugh is a great coach. Won everywhere he's been. Stanford, SF, Michigan. Won with different style QBs. His teams have had great defenses. He's a program builder. I'd take him here any day of the week, abrasiveness and all.

I'd take either over Captain Cheerleader Doofus right now who has no answers for anything and looks like the team has completely lost confidence in him.

26 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Would it?   When was the last time they were set back 5 years by firing the coach?

Right? The year after Reid was fired team went 10-6

Year after pederson fired team made the playoffs at 9-7.

Kotite gets fired eagles make the playoffs the next year with rhodes.

This team has talent and still will next year regardless of who the coach is  but the current coaching on both sides is running the talent into the ground.

I cant see Lurie firing Siri this year though, unless they get totally embarrassed in the playoffs 

13 minutes ago, paco said:

Ok, you had me curious..... How much draft capital was spent on defense and where.

2023
1    9    Philadelphia Eagles    Jalen Carter     DT    Georgia    SEC    
1    30    Philadelphia Eagles    Nolan Smith     LB    Georgia    SEC    
3    66    Philadelphia Eagles    Sydney Brown     S    Illinois    Big Ten    
4    105    Philadelphia Eagles    Kelee Ringo     CB    Georgia    SEC    
7    249    Philadelphia Eagles    Moro Ojomo     DE    Texas    Big 12    

2022
1    13    Philadelphia Eagles    Jordan Davis     DT    Georgia    SEC    
3    83    Philadelphia Eagles    Nakobe Dean     LB    Georgia    SEC    
6    181    Philadelphia Eagles    Kyron Johnson     DE    Kansas    Big 12    

2021
3    73    Philadelphia Eagles    Milton Williams     DT    Louisiana Tech    C-USA    
4    123    Philadelphia Eagles    Zech McPhearson     CB    Texas Tech    Big 12    
6    189    Philadelphia Eagles    Marlon Tuipulotu     DT    USC    Pac-12    
6    191    Philadelphia Eagles    Tarron Jackson     DE    Coastal Carolina    Sun Belt    
6*    224    Philadelphia Eagles    JaCoby Stevens     S    LSU    SEC    
7    234    Philadelphia Eagles    Patrick Johnson     DE    Tulane    The American    

2020
3*    103    Philadelphia Eagles    Davion Taylor     OLB    Colorado    Pac-12    
4    127    Philadelphia Eagles    K'Von Wallace     S    Clemson    ACC    
6    196    Philadelphia Eagles    Shaun Bradley     ILB    Temple    The American    
7    233    Philadelphia Eagles    Casey Toohill     OLB    Stanford    Pac-12    

2019
4*    138    Philadelphia Eagles    Shareef Miller     DE    Penn State    Big Ten    

2018
4    125    Philadelphia Eagles    Avonte Maddox     CB    Pittsburgh    ACC    
4    130    Philadelphia Eagles    Josh Sweat †    DE    Florida State    ACC    

2017
1    14    Philadelphia Eagles    Derek Barnett     DE    Tennessee    SEC    
2    43    Philadelphia Eagles    Sidney Jones     CB    Washington    Pac-12    
3*    99    Philadelphia Eagles    Rasul Douglas     CB    West Virginia    Big 12    
5*    184    Philadelphia Eagles    Nathan Gerry     S    Nebraska    Big Ten    
6    214    Philadelphia Eagles    Elijah Qualls     DT    Washington    Pac-12    

2016
6    196    Philadelphia Eagles    Blake Countess     CB    Auburn    SEC    
 

 

 

It looks like that up until last year, we really haven't spent "high" (Rounds 1 and 2) draft picks on defense outside of 2017, where we whiffed horribly.  That may account for why we really don't have any "stars" since it's a crapshoot in rounds 3-7 

Thanks for this. I know rounds 3 to 7 is a crapshoot but as another poster mentioned other teams have hit on lbs like Warner and Greenlaw and Howie has not... even once 😞

Just now, Mike31mt said:

We all knew going in that Sirianni was a young head coach with a limited network.  Guess who else knew that?  Howie and Lurie.

It's pretty unfair to the guy for calling for him to be fired when he's already gone through one iteration of coordinators and position coaches.  That is where Howie and company need to help him.  This is the 2nd coach in a row where this has happened. They made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.

Theyve always fostered a "promote from within" culture and this isn't the first time we've seen the well run dry due to brain drain.  Get Sirianni some old heads who aren't interested in jumping ship.  Reich is a perfect hire, they should offer him whatever he wants and give him a soft title like "quality control" where he can do a little bit of everything.

Same on defense, get someone who is like a Jim Schwartz who has made money already and just wants to coach.  Let Sirianni develop with an actual support group around him.

Are there many good head coaches that don't call plays for whatever side of the ball that they specialize in? I think Tomlin gave up his defensive play calling duties recently. I'm sure they influence the direction that the coordinators go. Siri for sure hasn't developed into an offensive mastermind to the point that he can direct his coordinator to make great game time decisions.

I think Siriani should get another year, even with all the frustrations. Give him the opportunity to right the ship, but with changes to the coaching staff (new OC, DC and look at positional coaches except O-line). 
Try to get a OC or DC that could take over if things don’t work out with Siriani at the helm.

 

And more importantly, change the idiotic defensive philosophy that’s been implemented here. Get some quality linebackers and a quality safety, either by drafting or free agency. Stop with the nonsense that these positions are not important.

10 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Top early to crown his a** 🙂

Even if he gets DROY it's too early to say he was a good pick?

Just now, judunno said:

Are there many good head coaches that don't call plays for whatever side of the ball that they specialize in? I think Tomlin gave up his defensive play calling duties recently. I'm sure they influence the direction that the coordinators go. Siri for sure hasn't developed into an offensive mastermind to the point that he can direct his coordinator to make great game time decisions.

Yes, of course there are.  And remember that Lurie and Howie hired Sirianni with this exact setup in mind.  They made this happen.

Being a head coach requires an entirely different skill set than a position coach/coordinator.  

And let's also remember that our offense isnt THAT bad overall, it's the situational idiocy that has largely killed us. And Sirianni is a layer away from that.  You can argue he should involve himself more there, and Id agree with that.

The only caveat being that the defense is also an absolute trainwreck and is costing us games, and Sirianni's responsible for that too.  He can't solve every problem at once and be involved in everything.  The Eagles just majorly dropped the ball with the coaching hires IMO.

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes, of course there are.  And remember that Lurie and Howie hired Sirianni with this exact setup in mind.  They made this happen.

Being a head coach requires an entirely different skill set than a position coach/coordinator.  

And let's also remember that our offense isnt THAT bad overall, it's the situational idiocy that has largely killed us. And Sirianni is a layer away from that.  You can argue he should involve himself more there, and Id agree with that.

The only caveat being that the defense is also an absolute trainwreck and is costing us games, and Sirianni's responsible for that too.  He can't solve every problem at once and be involved in everything.  The Eagles just majorly dropped the ball with the coaching hires IMO.

There's no doubt in my mind that Siri already does involve himself in the situational stuff. Hard for me to believe the BJ is coming up with these decisions to go aggressive vs conservative situationally all on his own.

27 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

One positive thing to think of is if Howie and Lurie do hit the reset button then I imagine we'd be a popular destination for an offensive HC just because of the talent on offense

Granted the new HC would likely need a new LT and RB but having weapons like Brown, Smith, Goedert, Hurts, and this Oline would have to be a great factor

Why would they need a new LT?

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

Even if he gets DROY it's too early to say he was a good pick?

I agree he's a good pick irrespective of whether he's droy or not but I was  highlighting Howies ineptitude drafting defensive players over the last 8 pus years. I don't think hitting on Carter suddenly absolves him.

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Why would they need a new LT?

Meant RT

6 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Not surprised. Most of the reporters talk to players, coaches, staff etc. They are well aware that Siri doesn't actually have any technical skill or expertise to bring to the table. He's a motivator coach and the motivation has run its course.

I don't think that's entirely true.  I think he just needs a stronger coordinator voice.  He needs someone that is pushing different concepts and will work with Hurts.  Reich may be good for that or possibly bring in Thomas Brown as a passing game coordinator.  

2 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

I agree he's a good pick irrespective of whether he's droy or not but I was  highlighting Howies ineptitude drafting defensive players over the last 8 pus years. I don't think hitting on Carter suddenly absolves him.

I think more recently he finally figured out it's not a bad thing to draft from the SEC. I don't mind the direction he's going now. Not getting cute trying to find these gems. It's kind of funny. At one point his philosophy was let's get highly productive guys regardless of athleticism and upside. That's how we ended up with JJaw and the likes. Then he totally shifted let's get athleticism and we end up with Reagor, Quez types. Now it seems like let's get some SEC guys with championship pedigree lol. I know I'm oversimplifying but that seems like what has happened.

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think that's entirely true.  I think he just needs a stronger coordinator voice.  He needs someone that is pushing different concepts and will work with Hurts.  Reich may be good for that or possibly bring in Thomas Brown as a passing game coordinator.  

Honestly... I'm not so sure about Reich either.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Meant RT

Out of Lane, Cox, Graham, and Kelce I think Lane is the most likely to be back.

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Out of Lane, Cox, Graham, and Kelce I think Lane is the most likely to be back.

Cox looks like he still has some juice left. Wouldn't be surprised if he comes back. Doesn't look like he's ready to shut it down.

5 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Out of Lane, Cox, Graham, and Kelce I think Lane is the most likely to be back.

Need his replacement on the roster before he leaves. I was surprised to see Cox still getting doubled a few games back

Graham is found to be making a play every now and then. Thankfully we have Kelce's replacement 

 

 

lol

46 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Perhaps one of the biggest crimes of the season is knowing the D are gassed and struggling, and the O doing little to reduce the time they are spending on the field getting beaten up on. 

A positive is Lowie tend to act most decisively when they are most criticised, and boy are they getting it now. I hope they swallow their pride and treat the LB and S positions with the respect they deserve; many of us have been asking for seasons for some investment in a game changer or two there. Their hubris on those positions has played a big role in the D struggling - why throw long when the LBs can be run on and thrown on at will?

Lots of change to come, I feel

Back to back busts at LB - Dean and Taylor - have really hurt.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Lol both are absolutely clueless on that play. Frankly sweat has play poorly for a while now. And maddox is frankly overrated by the eagles and never stays healthy.