1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve been as patient as anyone here with the coaching staff, especially Brian Johnson, but we just aren’t seeing any progress or any answers to the same things that have plagued us over three years. In terms of the blitz, it’s either a Sirianni problem or a Hurts problem, and we aren’t moving on from Hurts.

If I’m Lurie, the only way I consider keeping Sirianni is if he decides he is bringing on a new OC who actually oversees the offensive game plan, not just calling plays off his menu. 

And the only way I'd do that is if I got an overwhelming consensus from the players that they want Sirianni back and still believe in him.  It's not worth wasting another year and a few million dollars to go through this again.

Because, really, what would the point of that be?  Sirianni would quite literally be a figurehead. 

This season has been horribly damaging to the franchise and they've been on national TV almost every week.  The entire nation has watched us fall on our faces.

22 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Baker has been absolutely dreadful the past two weeks. 

Yesterday he was bad. Against the Saints he was so-so. But as of late...meaning the later half of the season.  I don't think it matters how bad anyone has been playing. The Eagles are the antidote to fix any issues. 

Nick Morrow is awful. I would say he needs to be benched but they already cut their best reserve LB

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yesterday he was bad. Against the Saints he was so-so. But as of late...meaning the later half of the season.  I don't think it matters how bad anyone has been playing. The Eagles are the antidote to fix any issues. 

And that’s the thing. Yesterday Baker was bad and that Tampa offense was torrid. So I get why that would give us hope because maybe we can do enough on defense and the offense can click. But there’s been zero evidence to suggest that’s going to be how it plays out. And this defense can make any offense look good. This defense would probably make Carolina look like a pretty good offense.

I’m so tired of hearing about the "Fangio scheme” and people gaslighting that it’s good. The scheme sucks and teams that run it all have awful defenses. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I was the exact same way but why should we have to walk on eggshells when it comes to criticizing a QB? Fact of the matter is Carson became injury prone and turnover happy, all while still putting up big numbers (with Greg Ward and Travis Fulgham) and Jalen Hurts is now turning in to the same thing but with an all-star cast around him. Hurts might be seeing the effects of poor coaching but the tape doesn't lie either. Hurts took a huge step back from the guy we all fell in love with last year. With everything he has around him, he still only had 23 passing TDs. 12 QBs had more. Only 2 of Hurts 14 rushing TDs were non-tush push from outside of 3 yards. 

They invested $250 million in this guy. They brought in his best friend and gave him $100 million. They gave Goedert, at the time, at top 3 TE contract. They drafted a Heisman at WR. He's had a 1,200 yard rusher and now a Pro Bowl RB in D'Andre Swift. He has more than Carson Wentz could have dreamed of. 

I've been saying WR3 should be a priority and we saw last night why. If the Eagles top 2 WR go down, look what the Eagles have to work with...and every one of those WR aside from Covey is a FA. 

Now, with all of that being said, I think priority #1 is to get the coaching right. Get a coach who sees the talent the Eagles have and knows how to scheme FOR those players, not rely on them to be good no matter what. Get a WR coach or any coach who tells these guys how to help Hurts out when he has to scramble to the right. I never want to see Hurts drifting back to the right and floating the ball out of bounds again. Bring in a WR3 and TE2 who are actual weapons with upside and potential starters rather than JAGs who have to be labeled a speed WR or a blocking TE. Give Swift a bag and use him right. Hurts has 2024 to show us he's a $250 million QB. 

 

The issue is. Hurts doesn't throw to the WR3; he locks in on WR1, Wr2 and TE1. And if it's not there, he exits the pocket and/or runs it.  Watkins looked kind of serviceable last night when Hurts wasn't at QB.I would let him go and let another team drool at his speed, but the QB has to own his inability to spread the ball about. And the coaches must too

Literally the two worst playoff teams in the history of the NFL squaring off against each other next Monday. 

17 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Yeah, the Fangio scheme or at least Gannon’s version of it seemed to set a ceiling for the defense where it would get exposed by good QBs; this has been married to degraded player and positional coaching talent where the floor has been taken out completely.

I think people forget that whenever we played against good QBs (which didn't happen very often compared to this year) it was basically expected to give up an 85%+ completion rate. Difference was that we had the raw talent to make plays at the right time. We don't have that now. We do on the DL still but we get basically zero pressure anymore.

The negativity going into the playoffs kinda reminds me of 2017

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

The negativity going into the playoffs kinda reminds me of 2017

The lethargy, disinterest, lack of commitment, and confusion are far worse this time around.

Bills

dolphins 

texans

eagles

packers

rams

winners opening round 

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

it worked well for the Browns when they went down a similar route didn't it?

8 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

The negativity going into the playoffs kinda reminds me of 2017

The team rallied around itself that year with the whole next man up, underdog mentality. This team gave up on itself weeks ago.

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

it worked well for the Browns when they went down a similar route didn't it?

I’m a little in the dark on what they’re hiring him for. Team president? Generic executive? Outright GM?

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I’m a little in the dark on what they’re hiring him for. Team president? Generic executive? Outright GM?

I'd guess it was Team President or a SVP role.  But I've never seen a top exec/GM from one sport translate that into another one and have success. 

So if he is GM... Yikes

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m so tired of hearing about the "Fangio scheme” and people gaslighting that it’s good. The scheme sucks and teams that run it all have awful defenses. 

Boom. And those other defenses don’t have scrap heap linebackers.

21 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

The issue is. Hurts doesn't throw to the WR3; he locks in on WR1, Wr2 and TE1. And if it's not there, he exits the pocket and/or runs it.  Watkins looked kind of serviceable last night when Hurts wasn't at QB.I would let him go and let another team drool at his speed, but the QB has to own his inability to spread the ball about. And the coaches must too

Really quez production yesterday stems from brown and smith being out. Then they pulled goedert. It was more the giants defense does suck and someone was gonna put up garbage time yards. Happened to be quez. 

that said, been an issue all year. Can’t just simply rely on 3 guys in the passing game and be effective cause eventually teams will catch on and DCs will make adjustments to make it more difficult to just rely on that. Especially when you run into good DCs. Add on our offense since week 13 has been bad. Scored 19 (meaningless garbage time td so should be 13), 6, 17, 33, 24 and 10. The last 4 games were against bad defenses and they averaged 21ppg. Someone brought up hurts second half stats, he’s also completing just 61% of his passes and has 9 total turnovers (sadly was an improvement from first half he had 11). Imo the defense is the biggest issue on this team but the offense has underperformed the entire second half of the year besides the Buffalo game and first giants game. That starts with poor coaching but also our Qb play dropped off. Hurts was completing 69% of his passes in the first half of the season. He had a turnover problem but he looked much better outside of the jets game. They played KC, Buffalo, Sf and Dallas which expect some drop off as good teams. But seattle, giants twice and cardinals are dreadful. Really the cardinals game makes it look much better as the other 7 games around it. Without the cardinals game, he was completing 59% of his passes and had 5 passing tds and 6 ints. He’s not the only issue on offense as i think scheme and coaching is a bigger issue but he is definitely not absolved from being part of the issue

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Really quez production yesterday stems from brown and smith being out. Then they pulled goedert. It was more the giants defense does suck and someone was gonna put up garbage time yards. Happened to be quez. 

that said, been an issue all year. Can’t just simply rely on 3 guys in the passing game and be effective cause eventually teams will catch on and DCs will make adjustments to make it more difficult to just rely on that. Especially when you run into good DCs. Add on our offense since week 13 has been bad. Scored 19 (meaningless garbage time td so should be 13), 6, 17, 33, 24 and 10. The last 4 games were against bad defenses and they averaged 21ppg. Someone brought up hurts second half stats, he’s also completing just 61% of his passes and has 9 total turnovers (sadly was an improvement from first half he had 11). Imo the defense is the biggest issue on this team but the offense has underperformed the entire second half of the year besides the Buffalo game and first giants game. That starts with poor coaching but also our Qb play dropped off. Hurts was completing 69% of his passes. They played KC, Buffalo, Sf and Dallas which expect some drop off as good teams. But seattle, giants twice and cardinals are dreadful. Really the cardinals game makes it look much better as the other 7 games around it  he was completing 59% of his passes and had 5 passing tds and 6 ints. 

Every single player who was here last year regressed to a degree, some much worse than others. That screams coaching. 

18 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

The negativity going into the playoffs kinda reminds me of 2017

Not even close.  

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Not even close.  

Yeah I don’t think it’s close. There was little hope due to the back up QB but there was still a functioning team who were able to dig deep. In fact that team did dig deep to win games.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Really quez production yesterday stems from brown and smith being out. Then they pulled goedert. It was more the giants defense does suck and someone was gonna put up garbage time yards. Happened to be quez. 

that said, been an issue all year. Can’t just simply rely on 3 guys in the passing game and be effective. Eventually teams will catch on and DCs will make adjustments to make it more difficult to just rely on that. Add on our offense since week 13 has been bad. Scored 19 (meaningless garbage time td), 6, 17, 33, 24 and 10. The last 4 games were against bad defenses and they averaged 21ppg. Someone brought up hurts second half stats, he’s also completing just 61% of his passes and has 9 total turnovers. Imo the defense is the biggest issue on this team but the offense has underperformed the entire second half of the year besides the Buffalo game and first giants game. That starts with poor coaching but also our Qb play dropped off. Hurts was completing 69% of his passes. They played KC, Buffalo, Sf and Dallas which expect some drop off as good teams. But seattle, giants twice and cardinals are dreadful. Really the cardinals game makes it look much better as the other 7 games around it  he was completing 59% of his passes and had 5 passing tds and 6 ints. 

Teams know they can blitz Hurts, he'll drop his eyes, exit the pocket and that's it. That is a trend that would correlate with the O stalling; they have no hot routes (told on themselves there), players admit they are freelancing, etc,

I expect Morris to blitz more often than not next week because why wouldn't you?  It's like taking candy from a baby at this point.  You can have all those shiny toys, but until the O can shrug off that perception, things won't change.

10 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I’m a little in the dark on what they’re hiring him for. Team president? Generic executive? Outright GM?

He’s in charge of hiring the front office and next coaching staff 

43 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Screw the Eagles for making me defend Matt Patricia.  But you'd have to be a freaking savant to turn this defense around after the bye, running someone else's scheme, with a worn out/unproductive DL and the worst back 7 in the league.

 

18 minutes ago, just relax said:

The lethargy, disinterest, lack of commitment, and confusion are far worse this time around.

Exactly.  The 2017 team was galvanized and used the "underdog” mentality.  This team is quite literally the opposite of that.