Ron Rivera fired.  DC for Eagles ?

7 minutes ago, paco said:

If this is you saying that Lurie should beg Belichick to come and help our defense to close out his career, I agree.

If this is you making a Star Wars dark side of the force reference, I'd just say "Help us, Bill Belichick, you're our only hope"

In hindsight, Sirianni's pompous gestures after wins, including screaming at the KC fans on the way into the tunnel, sure do look dumb as F. All that rah rah BS can only get you so far, at some point, you need guys in the room that actually know X's and O's.

2 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

Ron Rivera fired.  DC for Eagles ?

Can he start today? 😂

Do i stay up late next monday to probably watch us lose? starts at 1am UK time

I'm not sure i can do that again. 

28 minutes ago, hoosierdaddy said:

Literally the two worst playoff teams in the history of the NFL squaring off against each other next Monday. 

I feel like it's going to be a repeat of Washington-Tampa in the first round of the 2005 playoffs. Washington won despite only having 120 yards of offense.  Just a putrid game to watch.

Just now, Outlaw said:

Every single player who was here last year regressed to a degree, some much worse than others. That screams coaching. 

On offense I’d agree. The coaching has been abysmal for the better part of 8 weeks and I’d say since 4th quarter vs. Dallas before the bye. They looked like they were figuring it out in the Miami, Washington and Dallas stretch. Then the 4th quarter vs. Dallas they never really fully put it together. Second half vs. Buffalo was really the closest they got. I’d argue the oline has not been as good either. Lane has been good but even he’s had issues. Kelce has had issues. Jurgens missed time and still learning. Dickerson has been good. Mailata was not as good as last year. Brown tailed off after his 6 game 125+ streak. Thought goedert was gonna take a jump this year and he basically got hurt like usually does and really non existent for stretches. Smith had a good second half. i pointed this out in week 1, whenever an eagles Qb has a mvp-esque type season the next year there’s a major regression and usually they get hurt. Happened to mcnabb in 05, happened to vick in 2011, happened to foles in 2014 and happened to wentz in 2018. Hurts avoided the injury but regressed from 2022. 

On defense i think they have bad coaching but they also lost a ton of players who were better than what they replaced them with. Edwards and white were significantly better than Cunningham, morrow, Dean, Leonard. Byard and Blankenship aren’t as good as Epps and CJGJ. Byard stunk with vrabel and titans this year before the trade. He looks old and slow. Bradberry is a year older and his entire career has been up year then down year. Slay is 32 going on 33 and never should’ve been relied on to play 17 weeks. Then you lose suh, joseph (was really good last year) and hargrave. We really only replaced those 3 with Carter as we thought Davis and Williams to take a leap in their development. They didn’t take a big leap and cartee as good as he is can’t make up for that gap of 3 guys. And sweat has become useless in the second half. And reddick isn’t playing at a DPOY rate. The defense has ridiculously bad coaching but they also lack personnel on the back 7 and poor depth along the DL. And frankly way too old at a lot of positions. 

1 minute ago, rrfierce said:

Do i stay up late next monday to probably watch us lose? starts at 1am UK time

I'm not sure i can do that again. 

I'm a home worker and  even I'm not staying up to watch it.  If I was commuting, I'd get up early, stick the 40 min on and do at least get a decent night sleep

2 minutes ago, paco said:

I feel like it's going to be a repeat of Washington-Tampa in the first round of the 2005 playoffs. Washington won despite only having 120 yards of offense.  Just a putrid game to watch.

it will look like when tom brady and the bucs ass whooped us in the playoffs . when they said hurts can't read a defense.

Rick Spielman is also assisting the Commie new hire with changing the team. 

In Adam Caplan speak, it's a fluid situation

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

In hindsight, Sirianni's pompous gestures after wins, including screaming at the KC fans on the way into the tunnel, sure do look dumb as F. All that rah rah BS can only get you so far, at some point, you need guys in the room that actually know X's and O's.

Empty words, it's literally all the guy has got. He went for 17 weeks selling a load of horse crap to fans and hasn't been prepared a single Fing game this season. 

Nick will go down as one of the biggest coaching frauds in Philadelphia sports history. 

 

8 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

Ron Rivera fired.  DC for Eagles ?

Not so sure the game hasn’t passed rivera by. The commanders defense was awful before they made those trades. 

1 minute ago, Birdman said:

Empty words, it's literally all the guy has got. He went for 17 weeks selling a load of horse crap to fans and hasn't been prepared a single Fing game this season. 

Nick will go down as one of the biggest coaching frauds in Philadelphia sports history. 

 

yeah week 1 when the team just got by the pats i knew this was going to be a rough season , but i never thought it would be an epic failure

This is the most unlikeable Eagles team, top to bottom, in quite awhile.  One of the first times I can honestly say I won’t even be turning the game on.

Just now, GoEagles5921 said:

This is the most unlikeable Eagles team, top to bottom, in quite awhile.  One of the first times I can honestly say I won’t even be turning the game on.

The team where the starting CB ate lunch in his car is a hard one to beat.

Just now, UK Eagle said:

The team where the starting CB ate lunch in his car is a hard one to beat.

This team is even worse.

my seat is hot and my balls itch

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Ok I should have elaborated. You know what you are going to get from this defense. They are going to suck. With the Gannon defense you knew they’d hold up against an average to bad QB and really struggle against a good one. 

The Gannon defense very likely gets a win against Drew Lock and Zac Wilson this year.

I'll be honest and say that Gannon likely was as much a function of the players as this current defense is.   Reddick had a career year, as did Hargrave, as did Josh Sweat.  They added Suh and Joseph at the midway point and really solidified the interior of the DL.  The LBs were NFL level players, not retreads and wannabes.  Slay was a year younger, as was Bradberry.  And on the back end, they had competent NFL quality average safeties.  

This defense has regressed in so many ways... but one of the biggest is in talent.  Reddick couldn't sustain what he did last year.  That was an anomaly.  Sweat's knees are bad and he appears to be running in quick sand constantly.   Bradberry aged overnight.  Slay continues his decline.  Blankenship is what he is... a really nice ST player who can get some effective spot duty on defense, but can't be trusted for all 100% of the snaps.  And the LBs devolved into an abyss of futility.  

 

Would they have been this bad with Gannon?   Maybe, maybe not.  But, there's no way this team leads the NFL in sacks like it did last year even with Gannon.  The schemes are essentially the same as last year, the biggest difference is the talent.   And that falls on the bean counter.

5 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

This is the most unlikeable Eagles team, top to bottom, in quite awhile.  One of the first times I can honestly say I won’t even be turning the game on.

I still like many of the players. Smitty, AJ, Swift, Goeddert, the entire OL, BG, Slay, etc. 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Maybe AJ should stop fumbling every time he catches a GD pass inside the opponent's territory, then he wouldn't have to fake injuries.

Every coach minus ST and Stoutland should be fired, and Sirianni should be coaching for his job next week. If they have another embarrassing performance in a standalone primetime WC game, hes going to get fired too.

The Eagles have become the laughingstock of the NFL and there has to be accountability 

They talk about accountability all the time...  they are accountable.   They stand up in the meeting and say, "My bad."  Everyone tells an embarrassing story about a time they screwed up and they finish with a big group hug.    Then they go out on the field and proceed to do the same things... over and over again.   But, they are absolutely accountable.  Right now the QB and the HC need to put their heads together and come up with some fresh platitudes to throw around.  Once they do that... it will sound different and everyone will feel good again.

5 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

This team is even worse.

I'd disagree. This team is flawed, that team was bad.

39 minutes ago, just relax said:

The lethargy, disinterest, lack of commitment, and confusion are far worse this time around.

They are night and day.  In 2017, the team had heart and fight in them.  This team is apathetic.  They just want the season to be over.  
 

Hungry dogs may run faster, but these dogs are acting like they just spent 24 hours at an all you can eat buffet

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

Would they have been this bad with Gannon?   Maybe, maybe not.  But, there's no way this team leads the NFL in sacks like it did last year even with Gannon.  The schemes are essentially the same as last year, the biggest difference is the talent.   And that falls on the bean counter.

Been saying this for weeks now. Don’t get me wrong their coaching hasn’t been good at all but the biggest issue they have is in terms of talent/personnel. Guys aren’t the same players as last year, they lost a bunch of guys who were frankly better players and guys didn’t make the jumps they thought they would. I pointed out weeks ago, they downgraded at almost every unit on defense. The only question was how significantly they downgraded. I’d argue at linebacker and safety it was significant. And even DL and corner it was bigger than people wanted to think cause bradberry aged, slay didn’t stay healthy, we lack quality depth and reddick and sweat couldn’t match their career years.

it’s why when i said fire/demote desai it’s not making a difference. One bad coach to another bad coach with personnel being what it is it isn’t going to save them. Granted i thought they’d at least look competent vs. Cardinals and giants. They managed to actually be worse 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Would they have been this bad with Gannon?   Maybe, maybe not.  But, there's no way this team leads the NFL in sacks like it did last year even with Gannon.  The schemes are essentially the same as last year, the biggest difference is the talent.   And that falls on the bean counter.

Yeah I agree with you to be fair. I think a big issue is the talent and the fall off of some players. And it’s why I think Desai did what he could with what he had. I’m not saying he did a great job but he wasn’t working with a lot either. Patricia though has put players in bad spots.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve been as patient as anyone here with the coaching staff, especially Brian Johnson, but we just aren’t seeing any progress or any answers to the same things that have plagued us over three years. In terms of the blitz, it’s either a Sirianni problem or a Hurts problem, and we aren’t moving on from Hurts.

If I’m Lurie, the only way I consider keeping Sirianni is if he decides he is bringing on a new OC who actually oversees the offensive game plan, not just calling plays off his menu. 

Not just a lack of progress... but on the contrary, it seems they have regressed in many of those same areas.  Embarrassingly so.